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Q: Can Chinese open their minds to the outside world and be more like everyone else?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23462312

 

A fantastic article.

 

I hope there are many out there who will read this and head the lessons from it.

 

Sad that we will never find too many who will indeed believe this is possible though.  Too many narrow minds and too much face and national pride at stake.

 

The Brits did it with the Germans.

 

The Americans did it with the Japs.

 

The Chinese and Japanese need to do it with each other - especially the former.

 

 

6 years 32 weeks ago in  Culture - China

 
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It's a nice article. The problem is not the Chinese people living outside of China, one of my good friends back home, a Chinese who has been living there for 10 years, has absolutely no problem in expressing what he thinks is wrong with China, and he has no problem embracing the "different" society he lives in. The massive number of people in China who do not get to travel because of the cost will never know, the majority of those who do travel get to go on group tours and never get to the real world outside the shopping centers. 

It takes a long time to change the mindset of a people. It takes even longer when that people is under constant bombardment of "the rest of the world is bad" propaganda, and the fact that grandparents bring up the little children, I doubt they are the most likely to have an open mind about the rest of the world as they have had the BS beaten into their minds for longer time than the parents.

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Really enjoyed that article. It's a worldwide problem I fear however, we attack what we do not understand or what is different from us.  It is with travel and meeting people from different cultures that we learn under all the surface area, we are pretty much all the same.  You cannot make sweeping generalisations about any people in any country.  In truth you can sit a dinner table full of people from every culture, and if you told them not to speak of politics (which are mostly falsified) or history (fighting another generations batttles) I bet it would be one hell of a dinner party, because we are all human and live the same life. Obviously there are individuals who are stubborn and mostly narrow minded and hate people from other countries for the sake of hate. But screw them - they will never know the utter amazement of finding common ground with somebody who lives the other side of the world from them - or in this case, right next door to them. 

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I have seen the anti-Japanese riots in Xian last year. It's  the largest and most horrible "parade" I have ever seen.And as a witness maybe I can tell you more details and different thoughts behind the riots.

 

The crowd of 50-60 people turned into the street near my apartment in the afternoon.I went downstairs to see what's happening.There were about 8-10 men who were really organizers and the rest people did not participate in the sabotage.These 8-10 men worked in this way:One went in front of whole crowd to search any Made-in-Japan cars just like a hound.3 people following him broke the windows of the car with their tools,someone would jump onto the top of the car and try to stamp on it.Then these idiots stood around the car and turned it upside down while yelling"Da Dao Xiao Ri Ben".They did the same thing to every car made in Japan on the street.

 

At last a group of policemen came and stopped them at the crossroad.I vaguely recalled that there were 4 or 5 people being caught and others of the organizers escaped in the chaos.I asked a young policeman if the police department would set them free in a few days,you know,when this thing cools down and is not a focused topic.He replied"No way until the spring festival ends."

 

My friend who drove a Toyota happened to be told before he met the idiots near Big wild goose pagoda.He drove his car into his aunt's yard and hid it.And the most important thing after we talked about the whole riot is that most organizers of the crowd looked like gang members  and hooligans and some of these guys had the accent from other places.This was really suspicous.One friend of mine took part in a parade to anti Japanese before but they just showed their flags and slogans without breaking anything.

 

But why this time they acted so weird and violent?Did somebody encourage them to do so in order to make chaos?When would extreme nationalism usually appear in the history ?The reasons for those riots were not that simple I think.....

 

 

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Djan,

 

I remember those riots too.  We also had similar here in Shenzhen.

 

I was in a school in Cuizhu - I was off.  The roads were suddenly gridlocked by crowds of people heading towards Luohu or wherever, waving flags etc.  To be fair, I didn;t see any violence, but i did read about violence and the events you describe above.  

 

Going back to the Autumn of 2010 round to 2011.  This is when I first came across all this.  Then, I was in Chengdu.

 

I can tell you, I went to leave where I was working (Hampson) after seeing literally hundreds of thousands march through the center of Chengdu (Wangfujing) and then about at least 100 police vehicles make their way in columns - buses the lot - full of Police.  I was stopped from waling through Top CIty to the other side so that I could get to the South of CHengdu, where I lived.  There was a huge security corden.

 

As you mention, I came across huge groups of people in the Centre who were near a load of Japanese shops including Ito Yokado.  These huge groups were mostly men and guys - average age 25 facing off to the Police who had riot shields up protecting themselves.  I never stayed long enough to see what the result was.  Tbf, it seemed quite well managed and controlled by the POlice.  It was very intimidating though.  

 

Whilst a lot of it is anti-Japan sentiment, I gathered that a lot of this was an opportunity for the Chinese to cause havoc - look big etc.  I also gathered that the Chinese Gov. and Police were trying to make sure there was a line that wasn't crossed by the protestors whilst, at the same time, encouraging the protests to show that the Chinese were strong and wouldn't take any sht.

 

In general, I blame both sides for the troubles.  China are trying to be forceful, and trying to show strength by creating tension with all of their neighbours (Vietnam and the Philippines too).  Japan are fuelling the tension with their rhetoric.  I understand all the history behind everything.

 

I just think that China are trying to do what Argentina and Spain are now doing with us (the UK).  They are trying to distract from their troubles at home.  It's how a lot of wars start.  It's how Naziism grew like it did, and why the first Falklands war took place.  

 

I'm not trying to say China or Chinese are Nazis.  I am just stating that there are similar factors that fuelled all these simmering territorial disputes.

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Anything is possible. Have you heard the Martin Luther King Jr. Speech and what that alone has accomplished...that guy brought crowds together people of all nations together..so yes anything is possible.

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There are cookies, bookies and too many rookies for me to sit here trying to be a hooky! Looky Looky don't call me a wooky. Touchy Touchy Feely Feely Spicy Spicy Nicey Nicey & that's what the doctor Ordered!!

 
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Yes. The younger generation are quite reasonable. Well, that is my experience.

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