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Q: Can someone give me a number to report a teacher, who is not suppose to be teaching children?

I've been searching for the number for a bit now and I can't find one where they speak English. This is happening in the Tianhe District, Guangzhou.

 

I need to report a teacher who I'm sure does not have a working visa and has a criminal background.

 

I found out lots of stuff about him at a gathering and I need to report him because I don't want to have that in my conscience.

 

 

Thanks,

Concerned ESL teacher

6 years 36 weeks ago in  Visa & Legalities - Guangzhou

 
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Since the OP doesn't post what the actual crimes were, this sounds more like a personal grudge than anything else.

 

Unless it involves harming children or violence in general, don't be so closed minded.

 

Truth of the matter is that I meet a lot of people out here who probably aren't fit to be good teachers, both foreigners and Chinese.  But ultimately that's up to schools and parents to decide,  not you or me.

 

Unless it's a matter of these children being at serious risk of abuse I suggest you just let it go. As others said, it could end up causing more problems for you in the end. 

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Honestly, do you have any proof, or just a lot of gossip from people at a party. If it's just gossip, then ask yourself "why haven't the other people reported him?"

Unless you you have hard and fast evidence in writing, I would leave it alone. If it's just a personal grudge, it will backfire on you.

If not, call the embassy of the person involved, talk to their police liaison, and give them your evidence. If he's a wanted criminal, they will know, and are in a better position to get action than you are.

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Not gossip. He got drunk told me all kinds of stuff, showed me his ID, next day I checked the web and there he was.

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local police, local PSB.

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If you have proof, you can go to the PSB in person. Take his name, pictures if you have that, and the evidence. If you don't have evidence, you could get in trouble. If it turns out to be false, you'll be in serious trouble.

 

Keep in mind that it's a very serious accusation to make, and is very unethical to make without proof. Even implying it is unethical when you just have a vendetta against someone, and no actual proof. Especially if you use it as a way to attack someone whom you disagree with, who consistently makes you look bad, and who continues to expose you for being a fraud. *cough*

 

People have their lives ruined over false accusations. Even if they're acquited of charges, companies will not hire these people again just to avoid potential issues arising in the future. That's why it's very easy for them to sue you for defamation of character, libel, etc.

 

If, on the other hand, you're absolutely sure he has a criminal history, you should obtain his criminal background report and take that to the PSB, along with his name and photos if you have that. Criminals should not be teaching English in China. Make sure the information matches, as there are many people with the same exact names.

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A criminal record doesn't exclude a person from teaching in any country, including China. Only serious offences will exclude a person from teaching. It differs from country to country.

 

In China, unless it is a sexual offence or an offence involving children, the police and PSB probably won't care. Too much work, or they will take a bribe. Even with serious  offences, they are sometimes too lazy to be bothered.

 

The police liaison at most of the embassies, however, will follow up on anybody their country is after.

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Actually, Silva has a point! (and thus, doesn't deserve all 9 downvotes.. ok, except for  the 'tattle-tale' bit......).

 

IFF (that's If, and ONLY if...)

 

 

In theory, we come from lands that believe that once a person has been tried and punished, then they ought to be given a second chance. You know, 'rehabilitation'. This is where the concept of 'justice' comes from. You may not agree with it, but since you remain a citizen of that country, and don't express your moral outrage that criminals (or, more specifically, ex-criminals) ought to be given their rights back.

 

Rock_b_, does this person still have outstanding warrants, or is on the run?? Have they 'paid their dues'? Is he still considered a threat??

 

As for lack of visa... well, that's a separate issue... and is up to you whether you choose to report someone for it. If that's the way things start to go (and I, for one, won't object too loudly), then it might be for the best.

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What kind of a criminal background is this? If he had done something stupid, did his time in jail to 'pay' for it and is now looking for a second chance in a country where no one knows him, why should you tell people about this? People deserve the right to start a new life.

On the other hand, I would question the motives of a convicted pedophile to work with children. 

Do you think he has learned from his past mistakes? 

If you are absolutely sure you want to go through with this, I can give you the number of someone in Guangzhou who speaks English. He is responsible for issuing FEC. 

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You see it is things like this, that make me very glad I had an enhanced CRB check done before I came here. Slander is the most wicked tool in anyones arsenal. I find it rather stupid that the OP even put up such a post, and that's coming from someone who has posted some dumb topics (Yes I meant me).

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Since the OP doesn't post what the actual crimes were, this sounds more like a personal grudge than anything else.

 

Unless it involves harming children or violence in general, don't be so closed minded.

 

Truth of the matter is that I meet a lot of people out here who probably aren't fit to be good teachers, both foreigners and Chinese.  But ultimately that's up to schools and parents to decide,  not you or me.

 

Unless it's a matter of these children being at serious risk of abuse I suggest you just let it go. As others said, it could end up causing more problems for you in the end. 

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There is only one accusation that would put this man into a position to be reported. If this man has been accused, charged and imprisoned of being a child molester and he is a registered sexual offender, it is your duty to report. If he was a criminal of anything other than, and being that you are most likely new to China, leave the man alone and go about your business, with so many fake degrees teaching in China and really, it is TEFL not rocket science, you are teaching oral English for the most part it is a monkey show, do not hold yourself in such high regard. No offense to ESL teachers, work it and make your money.

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Please try to report your case to the following English/ Chinese online Message Board :  http://www.gzjd.gov.cn/ELSPafv/  .  It's run by Exit-Entry Department of Guangzhou Public Security Bureau.  

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none of your bussiness,i guess you have something wrong with him.

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i also heard from a teacher first hand that his degree was fake, he fled the USA to avoid prosecution for some crime or other, and didn't know anything about teaching children when he arrived. on the other hand, his employing agency tricks and threatens him, he doesn't enjoy being assaulted by countryside kids, and he has no teaching materials of any quality provided. he uses his own materials in class, and is forced to write lesson plans from scratch. by the time he told me his background, he had a year's China teaching under his belt. he has become experienced in meeting the expectations now, so why report what i know of him? education in China is so militaristic, rigid and misguided, and the english level is so abysmal, that even criminals and junkies (every American i met in China at least smokes pot) can make a positive contribution. i draw the line with kiddie fiddlers; pedos are the only people i might report to authorities. even then, there's a high risk of those ending up dead instead of arrested, because of the incompetent and emotional cops here, so i might not even do that. i once read a story that parents had to sign a police agreement not to prosecute, just to get the body of their pedophile son back. autopsy clearly showed he was murdered by a blow on the head; the lying China police were adamant that he was hit by a truck. being a Red Guard snitch is no different from Nazi collaboration. don't kid yourself: you'll be the lowest of the low.

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I woul keep my answer short .......

1)If you are in possession of concrete evidence then go ahead and report it to the local PSB but as it has been mentioned above only serious offences can lead to removal of the teacher.

2)If you don't have  such an evidence  then I would say it would be like putting an axe  on your feet.

 

Lastly, I  would say that  act wisely  

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