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Q: CPC 18th Conference Opens on 8th Nov, what do you think?

Xinhua new agency (which most know is the mouthpiece of government) carried in its online version the following article.

 

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2012-09/29/c_131881446.htm

 

Which I at least found interesting. Here are some selected quotes;

 

"The era of ultra-high economic growth will soon be fading in China, where policymakers will have to get used to an economy that expands by about 8 percent annually."

 

"But the most pressing issue for the Chinese public is the uninhibited and widespread abuse of power and corruption among government officials and businessmen. A series of systematic and structural problems that have impeded the healthy development of the Chinese economy and society have yet to be resolved."

 

"While maintaining the continuity of its policies, China must also adjust its relations with major powers, developing countries and neighboring countries according to the latest changes in the global situation. Any change in China will inevitably affect the rest of the world in an era of economic globalization."

 

So what do you think? Is the 'new' Chinese leadership going to tackle corruption, are they going to become internationally more dominant, or will they fall away?

 

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They're cunts. Sorry, can't think of any other decent adjectives.

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Like all politicians everywhere, it's all very meaningless and vague, just like the 'usual suspects' on here.

crimochina:

everywhere?  Swiss, Germ, Norm, Swed and France have great governments that are very responsive to the needs of their country. which is why those are considered the best places to live . China's problems are  china's  problems. stop promoting the ccp line that all countries are the same. that is not true. 

CCp likes to compare itself to America which is why you 3 "brits" like to use USA as your example. 

I will help you out. in the usa, all of america's problems could be easily remedied if the voting public elected the right person for the job. but the overwhelming majority of the voting public is ignorant. 

 

In china the people have no authority over the government. they can't choose their leaders. 

 

in america the problem is with the people. in china the problem is squarely with the CCP.

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I was actually trying to highlight the apparent fact that Xinhua news is 'criticising' the government, albeit in a very mild manner.

As it is pretty much a 'given' that Xinhua re-iterates the party line, that appears to beg the question who is criticising whom? Is the outgoing leadership laying down an agenda for the incoming leadership or is it the incoming leadership criticising the old guard and giving an indication of what is to come.

 

nevermind:

They are not even remotely knocking the government. Notice everything refers to "China" to make "China" look like a ship that needs to be steered. If there's a failrue, it's "China's failure" if there's a success its "The government's success"

 

Duh. 

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any moron can figure out why the ccp admits to having some problems. it is to fool the general public into thinking that they are working to fix it. politricks 101 . which is why the ccp party line is to to stress that the chinese govt has the same problems as every other country. (please don't over throw us, every other govt is bad too) or blame something out of china's control. bullied by other countries, blame the monetary system (seriously all these problems sprung up after civilizations started using currency).
but they will never fix their problems, which is why they will never actually present a serious plan of action.

mArtiAn:

  God bless you my friend, you are answering my questions in reference to the monetary system of world government. And yes, of course these problems existed before money even existed. But we have a new world of opportunity now. We have a world in which money is not showing anything of useful value. We have the technology............we have the resources.................we can rebuild it...............so fuck money in the ear! C'mon!

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crimochina:

martin: further proof you are chinese. no logical connection. the effect existed before the cause??

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crimochina:

oh and by the way the monitory system has led to less conflict and more stability. jap an chin are less likely to go to war because their economies are dependent on each other. before currency trading you had constant  wars for expansion. Ghenghis , Rome,  Napoleon, Warring states period. but now because of the current monitory system wars are costly (unless fought with someone not connected to the global economy) 

because of the current system china's govt is attempting to civilize the behaviors of it's people. shanghai, guangzhou, and beijing have anti spitting campaigns. they are beginning to wait in line like human beings. (from what others tell me)in the last 20 years, more public restrooms have been built in china than anywhere else in the world, to stop the go anywhere mentality. music artist (chinese) now own their songs and have more control over distribution of their music.  

your china is a better place because of the monitory system, so find another excuse for china's problems. (but don't say china's problems is because of the CCP)

 

WUMAO FAIL!!

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Contrary to what Loke said, these people aren't politicians. They're businessmen, bureaucrats, and workers that have been selected by the bureaucrats who work for central committee to publicly approve the policies developed by the central committee. They aren't really crafting public policy, they're just rubber stamping it. You won't see individual members propose their own plans, or factions within the party congress debate the relative merits of one plan over another, as you would in the parliaments and congresses in the western world. So the party congress can't really do anything about corrupt bureaucrats and businessmen (many of whom are probably actually in the party congress) or foreign relations because it isn't within its power to do so. 

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Of course the Congress isn't going to actually DO anything (apart from what it's told to do). What I found interesting was the report calling on 'the government' to do various things. As I said Xinhua prints what it's told to print, so I found the 'criticisms' interesting as I think they are giving an interesting insight into what's going on in the real government the politburo.

I was just trying to figure who was making those criticisms, the outgoing power brokers or the incoming ones as that may give an indication of what's to come.

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I think that I wasn't invited! no

 

 

I would have brought balloons and made funny animals, too.

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Popcorn......Sofa.....TV.....Enjoy the comedy.......Laugh a bit.......Call it a night.

mArtiAn:

  Seems to me you have the same 'serious approach to politics' as I do.

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@martian.......i thought that conference is a comedy......isn't it?!!.....a bunch of people in suits playing around in a big room with chairs and shit

GuilinRaf:

I dont think it is quite THAT kind of party....

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mArtiAn:

  Nope, i think it is 'exactly' THAT kind of party. We just ain't invited, that's all.

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GuilinRaf:

Waaaaa!!!cool

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I do think its Jintao's end of ruling power, by the way why was chongjing's governor expelled from the party and his position?

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