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Q: Have you ever worked for ECA GuangZhou?

I recently got contacted by ECA (www.52eca.org) but the manager Kevie initially forgot the day we were to sign the employment contract. After asking a few friends that have been here a while I've heard bad things about this company such as their contract is ILLEGAL (doesnt follow SAFEA government guidelines http://www.safea.gov.cn/english/). I'm now concerned about dealing with this guy, have you had any experiences with him?

7 years 40 weeks ago in  Business & Jobs - Guangzhou

 
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DO NOT work for ECA! Kevie is a typical Chinese agent, he will give you all the promises under the sun until he wins the contract then forget about you. If you have any disputes with the school don't rely on Kevie to give you any support, that is until you threaten to leave. He is only concerned about what he can earn. Apart from that don't expect anything in the way of care, concern or service.

Yes his contract is illegal. Most of his employees are non native and he will get you to work on a tourist visa.

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I once applied for a job at a kindergarden school and was bullied into an on the spot demo for the school. After that the conditions he offered were the poorest in China and his salary offer was 4000rmb less than I was told online. I don't like his attitude or being pushed into a demo which was supposedly a simple *chat* for 10 to 15 with the headmaster.

Later I applied at TeachingD and Nancy was far more polite and professional. It's not all agents. Kevie has to be the worst agent in GuangZhou

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I did one semester at a middle school for this Kevie and the conditions were terrible, no equipment and the dormitory was simply a mettle framed bed with a wood board as the mattress. The conditions were like that of a Mao era prison and I didn't get any teaching office etc... His promise of a good job was a total lie in that respect and later I discovered that he was taking 4000RMB OF MY SALARY as his commission.

At that time I did start work on an L visa on the promise of a work visa and he avoided all my calls and emails until the day I walked out. I also checked with friends about his paperwork, yes his contracts are illegal.

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I just remember I applied for a video recording job that was offering 6000rmb for part time video recording. Later I found that there was a lot of work creating my own ppts for the event, and after 3 tries I had got sick of it. Later the job was posted at 9000rmb, it did appear that ECA was just trying to get free videos from foreigners as no one was passing the so called *standard*.

I also think this is an illegal company. Steer clear

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I was going to an interview with Kevie and later decided that morning I wasn't going to go after reading so many bad comments about ECA.

Somehow he assumed that I was definately going to take the job and tried his *bullying* tactics about I had promised and I can't do that its so unprofessional. He then became very rude and sent many messages swearing.

My advice is to avoid this one at all costs

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I don't know much about working with Kevie but he's the only agent I'd visited who had a very simple office and didn't seem to have washed for a week or changed his clothes (very tatty). After noticing that also the soles of his shoes were peeling off I decided not to contact this agent again.

ILLEGAL for sure

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How do you go from "heard from friends his contracts are illegal" to "now I'm concernced about dealing with him"????

Sorry, by brain just did a backflip with that 'logic'...

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I wanna know why every single poster (except Shining) are all brand new and all flocked right to this question and all gave negative reviews.

Something is fishy. Mattaya, you might have competition for the Most Personalities Award. 

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"DO NOT work for ECA! Kevie is a typical Chinese agent, he will give you all the promises under the sun until he wins the contract then forget about you"-daveharbar

Sounds pretty accurate to me. I never worked with the guy but if it is your typical Chinese agent like Dave said then you can assume your Sh!T out of LUCK! I even talked to an agent in China once and he told me that his school was registered by the government or some crap like that. He goes on and tells me how most schools are doing things illegally. I'm pretty sure his practice was illegal to by not taking care of employees so that just reduces the amount of places that are actual legal here. If you're hearing things that are saying it is illegal and they won't care for you, they just want the money it's probably 9 times out of 10 true of the place they are saying it about.

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Three of the posters on this thread have 17 comments total and two of them have 19. That sounds like a lot of faking to me for whatever reason. However, I know that there are more than enough local contacts (go to the local pub, for example) and internet contacts to get a job in Guangzhou somewhere without using someone who is potentially shady.

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I did go to the ECA office in Kecun once and it was ultra minimalist, no pictures on the wall, located in an apartment (rather than a proper business center). I decided to ignore this but when I was shown a school about two hours away from any metro station and the poor conditions I decided to decline.

I'm not surprised if he's a fake. I also got bullied into an on the spot demo but thats typical of agents here. Better just to avoid ALL agents

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I was going to work for ECA and was quite convinced then...

After 2 months neither he or the school made any effort to get me a working visa. He never answered my calls, texts or emails until I forced the issue. The school just replied "your contract is with Kevie not us" and finally when I marched down to his office his reply was "you need to ask the school to get it". In the end I just up and never came back. I then got an array of frantic phone calls and messages, accusing me of being unproessional *as if being illegal isn't*.

Keep away from agents or schools that aren't up front and quick about getting the visa process done. My current school started the ball rolling and got me on the local F visa on the *in application* status in just 3 days.

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