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Q: How are Baidu and Youku seen by Western people/companies?

Europe and the US seem to be going towards a digital war according to the Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/06/google-amazon-europe-g...) but what about their Chinese competitiors in Baidu and Youku. These have barely been mentioned by any technology articles I have read recently. 

 

So how are Chinese competitors like Baidu and Youku (etc.) seen by Western people? Used but not supported or are most people just generally ignorant?

5 years 46 weeks ago in  Web & Technology - China

 
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Because Baidu and Youku are not serious competitors to Google and Youtube, the only reason why they are popular in China is because most Chinese don't want to bother or don't have the sufficient knowledge to setup a VPN (that's not already blocked by the CCP censors).

 

Baidu can't be seriously compared with Google, it's not a real search engine, it's more like a huge bucklink service, whatever you are looking for the first results will always redirect you to Baidu's partners trying to sell you outrageously expensive services and products., also even Google is better than Baidu to search for Chinese language results.

 

Youku doesn't even offer native 720p videos, only some sort of upscale with disgusting rendering quality, let alone 1080p, they probably never heard of 4k.

 

In short they are #1 in China because the government is not playing fair and is blocking the non-Chinese #1 competitors. If China would be playing fair both of them (and other Chinese websites that are copies, like RenRen or Tudou) would have all ran out of business years ago.

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Most have never heard of them, but those who have heard of them know they are crappy rip-offs.

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I was blissfully unaware until recently when I sent a friend in USA a link from Youku that Youku is blocked there. Or that's what he said, I have no first hand knowledge.

 

Ironically, he had to use his VPN to watch the link.

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Baidu.com makes wonderful lists of clients of Baidu per keyword. Sorted by price tag.

Apart from that, not much more I'm afraid. It's not even bad. For something to be bad, it needs to do something in the first place. Baidu does nothing. You put keywords in a box and what pops up are random results, only seldom relevant to anything you were looking for.

The Baidu Baike section, supposed to be a Wikipedia-like and usually the first  or second link to pop up, is usually full of inaccuracies or blatant lies (especially when it comes to attributing a western invention to some Chinese obscure inventor).

How western people see them? They simply don't. Why would people use a barely capable search engine to dig in the network of ignorance.

 

Youku... It doesn't even try to be YT anymore, it's just become another crappy VOD service in lieu of a platform where somehow creative people can actually share their videos. Except boobs, riots, and buildings catching fire, people in PRC have nothing to share.

And since Youku knows that, they didn't bother purchasing servers abroad, making their site slow as hell anywhere out of China.

 

No one "sees" those websites, because they aren't even close to the level of what were their competitors... when they started, and that considering the amount of copyright infringement going on it'd better stay that way even for them.

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Why would western companies care? These are made in china websites that are poor copies of western internet technology. Moreover they use Mandarin.  However, there will be a day when western companies will take notice. Service levels of Chinese companies outstrip their western counterparts in many areas. With more Chinese people immigrating to the west, only trade tariffs will keep these companies from competing with the western companies

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