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Q: How do you build a wall?

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/articles/2017-07-19/congress-slyly-diverts-pentagon-money-to-fund-donald-trumps-border-wall

 

 

 

So you let both parties take everything they want in the cookie jar but you get extra money for military spending that will build a border wall by calling border security a state of emergency and a matter of national defense.

 

If you survive New York politics, Washington DC is a cake walk.

 

Play dumb, bluff, brag, never show weakness.

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You know what they did in Scandinavia (primarily Norway) during WWII?  When H's boys got it in their heads to move up North?

 

 Well, in the deep woods that the OKW (Oberkommando der Werhmacht) decided it wood (pun, get it?) be a good idea to advance through, the Scandinavian resistance mounted Scarecrows.  Except the cool (another pun) thing about these scarecrows is that they were the frozen corpses of Nazi infantry that had decided that due to starving they would not march anymore, they would just lie down in the snow to rest, but, as Nature works, they then froze to death in the deep woods.  Yep, old style infantry invasion is hard.  The idea of making those scarecrows is that when Unteroffizier Ernst Knicklebocker came across one during his march, he might begin to have second thoughts on what the heck he was doing.

So, maybe along our Southern Border a Scarecrow Wall?

 

 

 

Stiggs:

That's a bit like how they used to send a message to pirates to tell them to feck off back in the day, they'd hang a few in cages at the harbor entrance so everyone coming would see the treatment they can expect.

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haha,,, yeah,  in the old days they weren't quite up on the PC concept.  Like the Hangin' Judges of the Old West.   'Ok, guilty. Hang him.... Next!'   

  bada bing,,, bada boom ~

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Vlad the impaler, now that dude knew how to send a message.

 

If anyone decided to go and challenge him they'd see thousands of guys mounted on  a sharp log which was jammed up their bum. They were the last guys who came to old Vlad with an issue.

 

That's going to take the fight  out of anyone.

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yeah,, haha,, my favourite 'Lord of the Undead' sure had a hell of a nom de guerre ~  perfect for a night on the town,,,,, tell the Hotties,,, yeah,, my nickname is 'The Impaler',,, then if needed, tell the Tuff Boyz, yeah,, my nickname is 'The Impaler'.

Works both ways!

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Wall won't decrease number of illegals in US ... wall's purpose, if it ever comes to completion is elsewhere ...

 

If USA would be serious at lowering no. of 'parashooters', they should implement more of administrative measures, especially at employment of illegals, new Bank accounts, driving licenses and similar.

 

Schengen zone:

Once, you open the jobs vacancies website in EU/UK, first Q is: 'Are you legally permitted to work in EU?' and if your A is 'no', website is automatically closed.

I won't say how is the matter with employing of illegals in EU by walk-ins, but fines for an employer with illegal workers must be high.

For EU DL and new Bank accounts matter is even more strict, i.e. one must show 'permission to legally reside (and work) in Schengen' to be able to get into the next step.

 

In USA, one must have US$ 20 and any doc. with pic for the DL and car purchase ... Most jobs (especially low paying gigs) can be filled just by 'walk-in' with no Qs asked ...

That is the main reason, why people immigrate to USA .... 

ambivalentmace:

https://www.ecowatch.com/us-china-foreign-waste-2553215414.html?xrs=RebelMouse_fb

 

Icnif77, so how can we make money on this, very hypocritical of america to restrict technology transfers and then try and tell the CHinese to take our trash. This is not going to happen but someone will have to handle this stuff, I'm not sure Waste Management can handle this, but if I can figure out ahead of time who is going to solve this problem, it's going to have some huge capital gains. The world trade organization going left on pollution want look good shoving trash on a developing country so I don't think it will happen.

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Waste management in USA is ''Corleone's'' venue ...

Chinese are moving from producer to a consumer-led-economy, and waste import restriction is part of it ... IMO, Chinese will take the world's leading roll in clean-environment-technology/economy ...

Of course, Americanos and EU are upset 'cause Chinese don't want to take care of other countries garbage anymore. China and West are going tit-for-tat ...

I knew the guy in Ft. Lauderdale, who had baseball cap with inscribed capitals 'BFI' by the rear window in the car. He was an Italian .... LOL.

Cap on the rear shell was sign to all corrupted cops, he's connected .... LOLOLO

True story! The reason, why I DD the meaning of 'BFI' was because it was handy anagram of 'FBI' ...

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who ever can handle this, is going to make some serious money, but I can't see Waste Management being able to do this, need a cheap labor country alternative, until sustainable reusable development is implemented. Walmart set up a back up plan for shipments from China through Mexico after the longshoreman strike a decade ago by shipping to a port in Mexico using Singapore robots for unloading containers and truck and train movement into Texas. It's possible to send the waste paper and plastic to Mexico and recycle it back by train.

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I thought most illegals just flew in on tourist visas and overstayed.Or maybe just used a ladder.

 

I understand wanting to control illegals but I never saw the point of spending billions on a wall that apparently doesn't do much to stop people.

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I've always wondered ... who knows what all these US Cruise liners are carrying in their bellies.

I've always thought, RCCL ships belly is the perfect storage for the 'nuclear&other contagious' waste. Ships are very short time in US ports, so US laws don't apply that much-o.

They can't have so many Cruise liners just out of the tourists profit ...

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icnif77, The list of future ten baggers on this

 

RSG,WM,WCN,CVA,ADSW,CWST,HCCI,ECOL,MRDN,PESI, in order of market cap

 

I eliminated CLH,SRCL,AWX,SMED specialized niche companies.

 

Now I need to check political affiliations of corporate directors to republicans and red states since they will be running the show. I think I can get the list down to 2 or 3.

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Too much of the 'dark-side' (MMs) influence in US markets for 'investing' or even for the 'trading'.

Once, you invest in any of (the listed) Co., you should day-trade-it, i.e. 'in-&-out'. IMO ...

This is the reason, I am out of US markets ...

Investing in 'drinking water Co's' should be very profitable LT (10 years or longer)' by my fav guru J. Rogers.

I didn't know, BFI went under the hammer ... Most likely, 'Corleones' diversified into other ... gambling, vice ... less regulated things.

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Depends, what's the wall made from? Haha I remember the cute boy during Trumps campaign that asked that question

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So it's probably safe to say they gave up on Mexico paying for the wall then.

ambivalentmace:

I think the reduction in crimes against Americans future welfare payments prevented will more than cover the cost over the long term, we shall see if it's true.

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Stiggs:

That's if the wall actually keeps them out, which seems debatable.

 

Besides that though, isn't a lot of U.S business dependent on migrant (illegal) workers?

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@Stiggs last line: 'That's the reason of easy employment in USA. All such companies contribute loads of dough to various congressmen ....'

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Yeah it wouldn't surprise me if some politicians get their oily palms greased, but if the businesses didn't do that they'd have no workers and therefore no business, the local economy would suffer, people would probably get pissy at the politicians...

 

I don't doubt it's a complicated situation. 

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I would drop the hammer:

1. 'Legalize all un-documented residents .... and impose control/real count over them!'

2. Tighten all employment laws and impose harsh penalties to all Co's hiring un-documented aliens.

3. Open Gov. sponsored channel of 'importing temp. labor force' with granting of Green card to the chosen ones.

4. Stop talking about ' ... so many millions of illegals in USA ...!'

The fricking debate on illegals in USA goes on for the last 30-years as I remember, without any of the Law or other changes.

The only 'complicated' thing I see is:

'USA is Nation of immigrants!'

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If you kicking people out that had a job and no one is coming in to take the job, scarcity, lack of workers drives up wages, people think things are better, perhaps trump is not creating new jobs but lowering the labor supply with tough immigration to make it look that way, this could all be temporary if the next leader opens the flood gates again.

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There might be something in that idea too RIC.

 

I saw a headline the other day saying Mars a Lago (or whatever Trump's golf club is called) had applied to hire foreign workers because they couldn't get staff locally. It would be interesting to know if there was an actual labor shortage, or if he's just too cheap to pay the higher wages and get locals.

 

I suppose the question will be answered in harvest season when all the farmers and orchardists need lots of unskilled workers to do the shit work. Apparantly there will be no Mexicans crossing the border to work so the supply and demand thing will kick in.. will the farmers be willing and able to offer higher wages? If they do will locals be willing to do the work?

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You know what they did in Scandinavia (primarily Norway) during WWII?  When H's boys got it in their heads to move up North?

 

 Well, in the deep woods that the OKW (Oberkommando der Werhmacht) decided it wood (pun, get it?) be a good idea to advance through, the Scandinavian resistance mounted Scarecrows.  Except the cool (another pun) thing about these scarecrows is that they were the frozen corpses of Nazi infantry that had decided that due to starving they would not march anymore, they would just lie down in the snow to rest, but, as Nature works, they then froze to death in the deep woods.  Yep, old style infantry invasion is hard.  The idea of making those scarecrows is that when Unteroffizier Ernst Knicklebocker came across one during his march, he might begin to have second thoughts on what the heck he was doing.

So, maybe along our Southern Border a Scarecrow Wall?

 

 

 

Stiggs:

That's a bit like how they used to send a message to pirates to tell them to feck off back in the day, they'd hang a few in cages at the harbor entrance so everyone coming would see the treatment they can expect.

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haha,,, yeah,  in the old days they weren't quite up on the PC concept.  Like the Hangin' Judges of the Old West.   'Ok, guilty. Hang him.... Next!'   

  bada bing,,, bada boom ~

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Vlad the impaler, now that dude knew how to send a message.

 

If anyone decided to go and challenge him they'd see thousands of guys mounted on  a sharp log which was jammed up their bum. They were the last guys who came to old Vlad with an issue.

 

That's going to take the fight  out of anyone.

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yeah,, haha,, my favourite 'Lord of the Undead' sure had a hell of a nom de guerre ~  perfect for a night on the town,,,,, tell the Hotties,,, yeah,, my nickname is 'The Impaler',,, then if needed, tell the Tuff Boyz, yeah,, my nickname is 'The Impaler'.

Works both ways!

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Meh. They'll just dig under the wall, or climb over it. Not completely sold on the idea that a border wall will work that well. It just seems to me that preventing people who aren't here legally from working or participating in well, anything, would be more efficient. That, and getting rid of birthright citizenship, which is another hot-button issue.

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Most illegals in USA overstayed their visas. They came in legally as visitors.

 

I know that's archaic, buTT ... you're being duped by the wall ...

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They also don't or won't be kicked out until 5 years later

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I'd say, timing of kickin' them out isn't that important ... How do you prevent them to get in in first place? ... or if you can't prevent that (and USA borders are porous, OK!) next logical step is to make their illegal life difficult as 'no employment!', no DL and other perks they can/could get easily.

Now, how long would you stay in the foreign country if you couldn't find/get a job because no proper docs.?

Last 30-years as I remember, illegals in USA is just a poof talk ... no changes whatsoever since 1975 ...

I ain't tired of illegals in USA. Feel sickly always when I read about that prevention and what not ... Wall? Yeah, man ... I just don't understand why not build 10000 new hospitals or schools instead ..

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The wall increases asylum claims. As does ICE.

 

Catch someone.... I claim asylum

 

Ignore the border, people come and go. Make a few bucks picking crops, go home and build a house, pay someones medical bill. Whatever. They contribute a net gain to the US economy.  The farmers don't have to pay minimum, the supermarkets get cheap stuff, and the bearded millenials in Portland get cheap avacado toast for breakfast that does not empty their trust fund.

 

Stand down. Win win.

 

And let the kids go to school. Education is the only escape from poverty and peasentry.

ambivalentmace:

California's net gain is bankruptcy, lousy schools, lousy roads, and the highest taxes in America or at least in the top 3 states. The state income tax top rate is 13 percent. Lebron James is going to pay 20 million to California for the next 4 years for human excrement in the streets of San Francisco. It is an interesting question though, if America can let in 10 to 20 million illegals on our southern border with a population of 300 million. Then obviously, the EU with approximately 300 million should let in 10 to 20 million illegals from the south into their countries. We should be fair about this, RIGHT., or is that too LEFT.

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California is ranked 44th in public education out of 50 states, better to stay in school in China.

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https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education/prek-12 Arizona is 48th and New Mexico is 50th. I wonder why the 3 border states with Mexico are ranked in the bottom 10 percent of the rankings, just a coincidence I suppose.

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I am a little surprised that Alabama and Texas are ranked 3rd and 4th in best high school graduation rates of all 50 states. It must be grade inflation, I have never seen liberal elite educators rank any red state that high for anything.

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https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2018-02-27/states-strong-education-systems-often-yield-high-debt-for-graduates

 

Go to a state in the top ten ranking and be further behind and more in debt, if you make the K through 12 strong, then your upper level college programs have less funding, cost more, create more debt, and are lower in the rankings.

 

Very bizarre unintended consequences.

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