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Q: how do you put out an oil tank fire?

Inspectors carrying out the safety reviews in Beijing found that security personnel at a branch of Sinopec Corp <0386.HK>, Asia's largest refiner, were unfamiliar with how to handle an oil tank fire, Xinhua said.

http://news.yahoo.com/safety-hazards-found-70-percent-beijing-chemical-f...
 

it is so sad, to the point of pathetic, but is anybody surprised.

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The Phrase "This is China"  usely covers it no

Chinese fires are different to other countries

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Not surprised at all.

 

 

After Tianjin I'm sure there will be a lot of inquiries, and everyone working in places that are fire risks will need to go on some sort of training course so everyone knows what to do if there is a fire in the warehouse...  good, common sense measures so in theory it won't happen again.

 

Problem is I think that in a year from now, if you were to ask anyone who went to the training course what they should do if an oil tanker in their warehouse catches fire you would get a blank look. Maybe some would remember that the answer to that test question was multi choice answer B.

Anyone new on the job who hadn't attended the course would have no idea and it's unlikely there would be any change in the way new people are trained.

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A year??? I'd give it a day, and they'll have forgotten!

 

Remember, only study to pass the exam!!!

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China educated, gasoline. 

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During my security guard training, they repeated first aid and fire suppression procedures every six months, just to keep this important stuff fresh in our minds. a fireman would give practical demonstrations in a special combustion room, and we'd learn every action down to the most efficient spraying motions. i doubt if Chinese firefighters even get a single proper demonstration of the different types of fires.

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How do you put out an oil tank fire?

 

Pump water on it (apparently). Nothing could possibly go wrong! Right?

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I never understood why they changed the extinguishers in the UK to all be the same red color. To me it makes it dangerous if you are in an environment with different fuel sources.

The company I work for here done a fire training day a few months ago. But was demonstration only and they only showed the petrol on water fire. They should have done various types.

In most cases I think an average person would pick up the closest extinguisher if they came across a fire. Or maybe they would just run away.

I suppose this is why the buck has to stop with management. It's up to them to make sure the proper kit is in place and the people are trained to use it.

As a matter of interest, its interesting to note the differences in fire training over the years. 30 years ago in the UK you were told to evacuate and for someone to try tackle the fire. These days UK training is just to evacuate and leave the fire. Safety training evolved in the UK through lessons learnt. I hope it does here too.

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Just be thankful they're not tasked with holding international events like the Olympics or Winter Olympics....

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yes, sadly most westerners remember the little girl singer that made the national tryout and then someone in the party did not like the gap between her 2 front teeth and replaced her, thats all i choose to remember about the 2008 olympics.

who will be screwed over this time, should be another interesting story.

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