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Q: How you get the education that a man should not hit a women ?

http://view.inews.qq.com/q/WXN201505050108090E1?refer=mobileqq&plg_auth=     

 

This link is about a man driver beat another women driver ,the baby of the women driver was sitting inside . Seems the women car scratch a man's car . 

I want to know ,in your country ,is there some man use violence to the women ?is there any education since you are young ,that you shouldn't hit a girl if you are a boy 

4 years 31 weeks ago in  General  - China

 
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The crucial question is: Would he have attacked if the other driver was a reasonably sized man? Probably not.

 

Chinese people tend to find weaker targets (e.g. women, children, animals) as an outlet for their insecurity and viciousness.

 

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I guess it's probably worst in India then it's here, and everyone must have read plenty of stories about Indian women not treated equally.  BUT... personally I got this from my father he would say "the reason men are stronger then women so they can protect them not hurt them".

 

Though nothing of that sort in the country's formal education that I can recollect (maybe that;s why it's so f***ed up) 

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The crucial question is: Would he have attacked if the other driver was a reasonably sized man? Probably not.

 

Chinese people tend to find weaker targets (e.g. women, children, animals) as an outlet for their insecurity and viciousness.

 

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A man hitting a woman is not tolerated in my country.

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I had a big sister growing up, so I probably got it from there, and just in my culture in general.

 

Personally, I think it's a really stupid idea - the "Men should not hit a woman".

 

And I find it ridiculous when people have the "Stop violence against women" stickers etc...

 

Why don't we have "Stop violence" stickers instead? (after all, those others sort of put into people's minds that it's ok to be violent towards men).

 

It also ignores some really serious - and obvious - truths in life.

 

Firstly, it creates a society where women are constantly being seen as 'weaker'. This is complete BS! (well, maybe not in China Tongue) Women (and girls) are just as capable of physical activity, effort, violence, etc as men - should they choose to. "I'm a girl - I can't do that".. WTF is that BS???

 

This mentality will keep men and women from being equal in our societies (and yes, I'm talking about back home as well!) It also stops women from choosing to develop themselves physically, because that extra muscle might put men off who like a more petite, 'prettier' or 'cuter' body shape. To me, there's nothing wrong with a nice fit, healthy figure on a woman!! (though, I admit, I do like slim figures).

 

Secondly, the other basic fact in life this mentality ignores, is that women can often be just as violent as men! The rates of domestic violence against men is seriously under-reported because of the stigma attached to the above concepts - men must be stronger and tougher than women - and getting beaten up by a woman means the guy is weak and 'a pussy'.  Shall we consider what happens when a man (or other woman) threatens a woman's child?? We also need to remember that not too long ago, when there was a lot more localised fighting in the world, there were women on the front lines hacking and stabbing away just as violently as the men. There's a reason that the Vikings call upon the female Valkyrie to judge the warriors worthy of entry into Valhalla. Similarly, we should remember what happened to the Romans when they first tried to invade Briton - they got hammered by the screaming - naked - women. It wasn't until they got past the 'let's not hurt a woman' mentality, and realised this person is about to cut their head off, that they started winning their battles!

 

 

Let me make my position clear (in case someone decides to put words into my mouth). I'm generally against violence! However, in a fair fight - it shouldn't matter who the opponent is - if they are attacking, then they deserve to be put down. If it's not a fair fight, then the opponent needs to be immobilised as harmlessly as possible. Again, if you're 6'8" and built like a brick shit-house, and your opponent is a scrawny (but angry) weed) - you do NOT try to knock their lights out - gender is completely irrelevant!. If the woman is built like a brick shit-house, and is laying into a guy, he has ,every right to punch her lights out!!!

 

And, it's so NOT ok for women to hit guys!!!

 

(PS - just in case you get any weird ideas about my upbringing - no, there was no domestic violence issues in my family. I just realised how the world should be, and how to make it a better place - by seeing what's wrong with it!)

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So he bought a car on installments and has to pay the debt all his life. The lady couldn't avoid hitting his MOM and he finds it so easy to beat her on a busy road passing by cars do not give a flying F about it.

One doesn't need to learn these things at school rather a quarter miligram of 'common sense' would be enough to know that hitting a woman is barbaric and an uncivilized act.

As the guy above said about India, unfortunately in Asia and middle east these acts are happening quite often. The difference perhaps could be of the people witnessing the events where as in China they just video tape such things or stand along having a gig.

I am certain I will go to prison if kicking an idiot like this in the arse leads me to. Already screwed up by the neighbouring couple and screams.

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It's okay to hit a woman when:

 

- She hits you first.

- She's threatening your life, or other's lives.

- She's harming your property, and won't stop. (the situation in this video obviously doesn't count)

 

But that's it. Yes, I would beat the FUCK out of a woman if she did any of the above, especially the second one.

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Where I am from if you hit a woman in public you will likely get a beating from any men in the area. It is also against the law to attack people anyway.

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If a good hard chuff rodgering without a pillow to bite down upon while a gang of your fellow inmates tie your hands behind your back with prison towels (hopefully previously used to wipe the toilets down) before further augmenting the experience with a donkey punch to the back of the head doesn't send the message home then I don't know what will.

 

The problem is that in China the prisoners will have to all take turns on each other individually.

 

That's pretty labour intensive and there could be some head traumas and opened haemorrhoids for the prison doctors to have to treat with an IV of penicillin and three cups of hot water per day for a week.

 

It would also mean the death rowers' organs would be tainted which would undermine their blackmarket value, so the warden would have to drive a Santana rather than a Mercedes.

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We get it from biology and from culture. Humans have an instinct to protect women, and culture perpetuates it (boys are taught to never hit girls).

 

Probably, it came from biological conditions of our prehistoric ancestors, where female lives were more valuable, or less disposable, than male lives.

 

In modern times, it is something I am completely against. I've seen time and again social experiments (hidden camera experiments) where men and women react with shock and disgust when a man acts out abuse of a woman, and will even violently attack a man who is hitting a woman, but react with laughter or indifference when seeing a man getting beaten.

 

I'm also disgusted by the "End violence against women" campaigns popular in the US, Australia, or UN. There is no reason, beyond sexism, why it can't be "End violence" without a limiter. If telling black people to end violence against white people is racist, then telling men to end violence against women is sexist.

 

If you want to tell bigger, stronger, people not to pick on smaller, weaker people, then that's one thing. However, if acceptability of violence is based on sex/gender, then it is simply wrong.

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Women = People

Hitting people because you are angry/frustrated = bad

Why it's bad => if every body does this, life becomes quickly a mutually inflicted hell

I guess you can put that in small stories for kids. It's the kind of lectures we had circa kindergarten (public, state-run ones).

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We had special classes on not hitting women growing up. If you hit a woman you failed and had to repeat the 3rd grade. It was tough but fair.

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Not hitting other people (male or female) comes under basic social skills learnt when very young.

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if you didn't pick it up at home, school/kindergarten was where you would normally learn things like this.

Usually you learnt a bit of self-control at the same time.

Alcohol can regress your mental age back to about 5 years old (for some), but equally alcohol can have a mellowing effect.

 

To the OP, when did you learn not to hit someone?

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I am just curious, none of the Chinese users commented on the question...except Vicky (but she is a modified version anyway),  I would like to know if they were/n't told... gouxiong, where are you? 

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From my brain.

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I'm not going to muddle around the details (yes, some women are phyically stronger than some men. No, men should not have to meekly tolerate a physically abusive woman, no matter how small she is or how large they are).

The gist of it is this: people shouldn't use violence, they should use words. And when a physically larger person attacks a physically smaller person to resolve a fight (again, we are not going to muddle in details), it is pathetic. It does not simply involve men and women (which itself is a rough way of putting it, as other commenters are pointing out), it involves adults and children, healthy people and handicapped people, exc). Functional societies are ones that understand that power is responsibility, not a license to act as a jackass.

I've noticed that Chinese don't have a similiar concept. When people get a little bit of power here, the first thing that they do is start to abuse other people with it. I won't pretend that there aren't those in Western culture who don't do the same thing--but it is not nearly as pervasive or as accepted as it is in the PRC. People in my country wouldn't stand around in a massive crowd and stare while some guy repeatedly hit a smaller woman across the face with a bag, for example. I saw that happen, and my male (Western) friend was the only one who intervened (he pushed himself between the two, grabbed the bag, and then yelled at the helpful Chinese men who wanted to watch a woman get smacked around).

I wonder sometimes, if Confusionism doesn't play some small part in it. I remember attending a seminar on Confusionism, and hearing a fable about a Chinese boy who lived with his parents. They were too poor to afford mosquito nets, and the story goes that the boy stripped the clothes off of himself to attract the mosquitos away from his parents bodies. I think it was supposed to be a positive story about filial piety--all I could think is, 'what kind of messed up parents would let that happen?' It's pretty *&$#ed that, not only do two adults who should provide for a child let their kid sacrifice his own body for their convenience, but a culture could see anything praiseworthy about it. Adults take care of children, not the other way around. Children are not fodder to serve personal interests of parents (though they are treated that way in China all the time). It's not just parents and children though--look what passes for a 'work culture' here. There is no responsibility, just a bunch of people who will screw over anyone they have the power to screw at the moment (if we want examples, my first employer in Beijing was an up and coming primary school. It was brand spanking new, so the owner advertised positions for local teachers all over China. Then, the management told everyone who applied that they were hired. A bunch of young Chinese people uprooted their lives and moved to Beijing, some from as far away as Yunnan. And my employer proceeded to pare them down, until he got the handful of people that he wanted. As for the others, the ones that moved to Beijing with the expectation that they had a job and then got tossed out on their asses within a week? I'm sure he thought, 'screw them, they shouldn't have trusted me.' If he thought about them, at all). Look at how they treat pets (It made me happy for 3 months. Now it is not a tiny puppy anymore, so I am putting it out on the street! It is all about mmmmeeeee!).

Do the ideals of Confusionism actually set up this tragically corrupt system where people eschew responsibilities and simply take whenever they are given the opportunity? I would be interested to hear from people who actually know more about Confusionism than I...

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Seems it is "only" 60& of Chinese (internet users) who finds it unacceptable to punch a woman 

 

http://online.thatsmags.com/post/60-of-chinese-netizens-think-this-guy-w...

 

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As a kid, I asked my dad if I should/could hit girls. Since he is from the silent generation, he told me "Son, only if she acts like a boy and is hitting you...if she acts like a boy, treat her like a boy."  The same would apply to a woman. If a woman is hitting me and is actually trying to hurt me (strike me in the balls, scratch my eyes, punch my hard in the face, etc.) I would smite her down. Act like a man, I treat you like a man.

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I wouldn't consider this the result of education...  in my view, its the result of a lack of education.  Perhaps something caused him to believe its okay to hit women like that.. if so, i highly doubt it is the result of education.  Education in my opinion entails consistency.  If he was raised in a household that upholds that its okay to hit women, then that is education. But I think it's mostly the result of having an explosive temper.  If the powder keg is big enough then regardless of who sets it off, something is going to happen.  This guy was just a loose cannon.

 

About those loose cannons... Ah, they're everywhere. Once I used the Da Zhong Dian Ping app and left a bad comment on a restaurant which served Cantonese style food. Their service was extremely slow, I had to practically shout 4 times just to get service... and the so called Cantonese food was so far off the mark that I wouldn't even feed it to my dog  A person, who I presume to be the owner, stalked me in other comments about other restaurants in other cities (most of which were positive!) assuming me to be a "country person." It's funny the assumed me to be Chinese? Anyway... tempers are short, and people's ability to cope with things outside of their expectations is weak. Maybe it's the "ME" complex.

 

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how about arresting the dreg?

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Not being raised amongst the dregs of humanity is a good start.

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Learning how to actually drive would have allowed this entire incident to have been avoided.  Two people, entering a power struggle over who gets to go first, or get wherever quicker, both dealt blows to the other's ego when it came to speeding and outmaneuvering the other...  and finally they both couldn't take it.  Sadly,the whole situation spiraled into one thing after the other until the man had to "assert his dominance."   It is odd how anybody can agree with such a sickness.  Beating somebody up for something you are guilty of yourself is only addressing the symptom, and not the root.  The root is a certain "me" complex that people have, thinking they're the only person around that is "deserving" of something..... Defensive driving, instead of offensive driving, needs to be encouraged more.  

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Some of the arguments on this page are strange

 

It would be a lot nicer and better for women if men and woman had the same physical capabilities. However it is indisputable fact that they do not. The male sex hormone is the human's body main muscle  and mass signaller. It also does many things that are useful in situations of physical confrontation, like increase aggression, adrenaline and give men an advantage in spatial awareness. It has also been shown in many scientific papers females have a far larger response between areas of the brain that associate emotional response and pain nerves.

Therefore the notion that a man and woman of the same size are in anyway equal in physical capability is utterly ridiculous.

 

The stupid thing about hollywood movies is that they give women the physical capability to be martial arts heroes without gaining the muscle required. Basically saying if you want to be a hero you need to be a man. Hollywood pretending to be less sexist when it in fact does the opposite. When a woman becomes a heroine in real life, it is for using their brain, which if you ask me is a lot more impressive.

 

I read that one person wrote that it is ok to hit a women if she attacks you first. Other than in a few cases it is not. Laws in western countries acknowledge that the potential damage that a man and woman can do to each other is different. The law will not side with you if you both have the same level of damage and I don't think it should.

 

My own traditional view will probably get me lots of downvotes. Women are better than men because they are not so good in violent situations.

 

Going off at a tangent, I would love to magically transport into that video and kick the crap out of that guy. I hope it was a woman who filmed that video and not a chicken shit man who didn't intervene

 

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