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Q: I get this question a lot: Getting a New Work Permit "Within China."

Yes many ESL teachers are changing jobs, and yes you "don't" have to leave China anymore to get a new working permit card. But MOST schools won't help you change jobs like the good old days due to the 2017 policy change. Here's how it works now:

 

1. You finished your contract, you get the release letter ( a must ) / Recommendation letter ( a must).

 

2. The canceled Working Permit notice. ( a Must.~ no, this isn't the resident permit in your passport).

 

3. The old company or school will cancel your resident permit in your passport "Most likely" these day, and you'll get a 30 day visa that can be renewed if need be for another 30 days. ( If you fail to change jobs in 60 days, it's game over, MUST leave China, so if you have a Chinese wife, best to use a family visa while changing jobs.)

 

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Now you got a new job and contract while in China.

 

Now this where my friends are getting confused. ( I help do working visa's and permits for teachers now within China.)

 

Fact, and it's sad, your working permit was canceled & resident permit by the last company, and because they canceled the resident permit in your passport you have to do the whole process alll over again and sadly the working permit offfice won't even know you were in their system before because the old company canceled the resident permit, and you'll need all of your documents, degree, police check ( can use a Chinese check.), Photo certificate & photos, Health Check (400+ RMB) and all old company docs.

 

So sadly when the Working Permit Office ( Not the PSB anymore, they only scan the working permit card and paste resident visa permit in the passport.) So the Officer doing your working permit card won't even know you had a working permit card before ( Blame your last school or company.) Most asking me " Don't they know I had a working permit card before? Why do I have to do the whole F---King process again?, Can't they see my record in the Working permit system and just give my company a new working permit B class card?

 

Answer: Yep, sadly the working permit office wouldn't be able to use the old working permit info or card to just give you a new card, its game over for that card and you have to do whole process again BECAUSE your last company canceled the resident permit in your passport after the contract. So your recod in the working permit system won't even be shown. Which is unfair and more work for them and us, it doesn't make sence but it is what it is.

 

Next question I get is: Does the "Notice of Working Permit" mean I get the working permit card next?

 

Answer: NO! I means your company uploaded 5 documents online to the working permit offcie, like your degree, Authentification Embassy Sticker, passport and other stuff related to that. It just means that you have been ACCEPTED to work in China and get the working permit card ..... "LATER".

 

Question: WHY? I've been approved and my 5 doc's are approved too, why can't I just get the card now?

 

Answer: Becuase you have a 30 day visa or family visa or study visa they can see that in the system, sooooo, the "Notice of Working Permit" actually is an "Invite & accptance letter to work in China if you are in China or outside of China."  But you have been aprroved to work in China "again", so happy dance.

 

Question: What the heck do I have to do next, again?

 

Answer: Your school will take the "Notice Of Working Permit" letter to the PSB and get the famous "Z Visa" ....again....yawn~ in your passport.

 

Question: What "s next? ...... I really need a coffee~ Its been almost 1 month & 3 weeks doing the process "again"...

 

Answer: You and your HR will take your doc's to be checked in person and they'll use a UV light to check the authentification sticker on back of your University letter, and check the company's business licence.

 

Question: Am I done? Do I get the working permit card now?

 

Answer, Yes, you'll get it after 3 weeks and your school will keep it safe for you, the card is of no use to use in China for anything, you only use it when you send money to another country at the bank. After you get the card you will take the card to the PSB and get a 6 month resident permit in your passport, after 6 months you'll get a 1 year resident permit again.~ I don't know why they give a 6 month resident permit but again it is what it is.

 

So Ihope I helped answer your questions for changing jobs and why the hassle.

 

I want to make it clear. " The notice of working permit." means you are approved, so relax and just do the process with a cool head.

 

 

Good luck.

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Your description of the procedure to get a WP as an English teacher in China is very informative. Thank you!

 

laugh I find it very similar to one of my earlier application considerations ...: 

 

https://www.spaceupclose.com/2020/03/do-you-want-to-be-a-nasa-astronaut-...

 

CAPE CANAVERAL, FL – Who amongst you wants to be a NASA astronaut and try out for the only occasionally offered opportunity fly to try out and fly on new human missions of exploration and discovery to the Moon and Mars as part of Project Artemis?? surprise

Well NOW is your chance !! Apply to #BeAnAstronaut for the entire of March only !!

For the first time in more than four years, NASA has opened up the astronaut selection process to new space recruits and has began accepting applications as of this week on Monday March 2 for future astronauts.

“Aspiring Moon to Mars explorers have until 11:59 p.m. EDT Tuesday, March 31, to apply,” says NASA. 

 

Comparison stats between-o Z visa and NASA:

 

For more information about a career as a NASA astronaut, and application requirements, visit:

 

http://www.nasa.gov/astronauts

Stiggs:

When I read it I thought of the Navy Seals hell week, most people probably look at what's required and think f*ck that, it sounds awful.

 

 

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ironman510:

Same old icnif77 lol, long time man. Looks like you've been running the joint well.

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icnif77:

You better be a native English American ...  for NASA ... Green card and all ... surprise

 

I honestly had such a thoughts in 2017 before I left China ... requirements to teach phonics to little babies in China are not much different than heading onto the outer planets ... 

 

The matter with Z and WP didn't change much from before 2017 except processing time. It was all much speedier before ...

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icnif77:

Few days later, I am reading your thread again and am like:

"Huu is this 'icnif' guy ..?" 

 

Sorry!

 

I need O2 container 'cause no air at my place out of all laugh ... 

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Your description of the procedure to get a WP as an English teacher in China is very informative. Thank you!

 

laugh I find it very similar to one of my earlier application considerations ...: 

 

https://www.spaceupclose.com/2020/03/do-you-want-to-be-a-nasa-astronaut-...

 

CAPE CANAVERAL, FL – Who amongst you wants to be a NASA astronaut and try out for the only occasionally offered opportunity fly to try out and fly on new human missions of exploration and discovery to the Moon and Mars as part of Project Artemis?? surprise

Well NOW is your chance !! Apply to #BeAnAstronaut for the entire of March only !!

For the first time in more than four years, NASA has opened up the astronaut selection process to new space recruits and has began accepting applications as of this week on Monday March 2 for future astronauts.

“Aspiring Moon to Mars explorers have until 11:59 p.m. EDT Tuesday, March 31, to apply,” says NASA. 

 

Comparison stats between-o Z visa and NASA:

 

For more information about a career as a NASA astronaut, and application requirements, visit:

 

http://www.nasa.gov/astronauts

Stiggs:

When I read it I thought of the Navy Seals hell week, most people probably look at what's required and think f*ck that, it sounds awful.

 

 

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ironman510:

Same old icnif77 lol, long time man. Looks like you've been running the joint well.

2 years 34 weeks ago
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icnif77:

You better be a native English American ...  for NASA ... Green card and all ... surprise

 

I honestly had such a thoughts in 2017 before I left China ... requirements to teach phonics to little babies in China are not much different than heading onto the outer planets ... 

 

The matter with Z and WP didn't change much from before 2017 except processing time. It was all much speedier before ...

2 years 34 weeks ago
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icnif77:

Few days later, I am reading your thread again and am like:

"Huu is this 'icnif' guy ..?" 

 

Sorry!

 

I need O2 container 'cause no air at my place out of all laugh ... 

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A:  "... through ..."?  Only "through" comes to mind is "S
A: "... through ..."?  Only "through" comes to mind is "Shenzhen agent can connect you with an employer, who's authorized to hire waigouren ... and can sponsor Z visa." It's not like every 10th person you meet in Shenzhen's hood can sponsor work visa ...  The only way to change from student to labourer visa is just a regular way by: 1. Finding an employer, who'll apply for an Invitation letter; 2. Exit China and apply for Z visa in your home country's Chinese embassy; 3. Enter China in 30-days after Z visa was stamped into your travelling instrument ...As I am aware, you won't be able to switch to Working permit by remaining in China....,so make ready for a return to your home .... -- icnif77