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Q: Is it warming, climate change, global cooling?

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/03/18/approaching-grand-solar-minimum-could-cause-global-cooling/

 

So my professor in the 1980's was right, people used words like consensus and then every thing you sight is a contradiction.

 

what has caused science to be as fucked up as politics?

 

So we have warming gases against sunspots and nobody really knows the results, but we need to do something, how about sit on the toilet and hollar "oh shit" for a hundred years.

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NZ is just coming out of the hottest summer on record. I think it was pretty hot in Australia too.

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My barnicles are swelling, my testicles are bloating, I will bet you a lego millenium falcon set, this year will be the hotest on record.

A seagrass failure in OZ will contribute, as will the Russian tundra.

How we define hotest year on record I will leave to you.

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If global warming makes outrageous heat and dormant sunspot activity created outrageous cold. The two temperature extremes will cancel out in the average and make it look less compelling by averages. This a hard sell unless someone actually explains this to the masses, because the numbers, average temperature changes don't look bad enough to warrant concern. My views aside, it's not communicated well and all the predictions by the mouthpieces have been wrong and makes the arguement look more foolish to the masses. I don't see an answer to problem of convincing the masses to care.

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NZ is just coming out of the hottest summer on record. I think it was pretty hot in Australia too.

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If you actually listened to a scientist and not the BS articles from the likes of Fox and infowars you'd know the global warming triggers a cooling, when the polar ice caps melt, it effects the movement of the oceans (which distribute warmth from the equator) and so on

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Some areas become hotter, some areas become colder at varying times

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Yes, but if sunspot activity is dormant and causing the earth to cool at the same time man made gases are warming the earth, how to measure the effect of temperature when you are throwing boiling water into a pot and cold water at the same time with any accuracy.

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Bottomline is this, we need to stop with greenhouse gases, simple!!!!!!!!!

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https://realclimatescience.com/2018/03/noaa-data-tampering-approaching-2-5-degrees/

 

More tampering to make an agenda match a prediction that will be wrong anyway.

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https://fox17online.com/2018/08/22/lake-michigan-water-temperatures-drop-add-to-swimming-danger/

 

Put on your tin foil hat and conspiracy brain reboot and explain

 

low sunspot activity, huge glacial meltdown, but not rise in water level, theories anybody, the article is written poorly but if I understand the liberal journalists trying to convey science, the temperature in Lake Michigan dropped 32 degrees in 9 hours and they don't know why.

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https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1010638/cold-weather-forecast-big-freeze-solar-minimum-maximum-space-news

 

So if we are entering another mini ice age, will all the nerds admit they were wrong about global warming. NOT A CHANCE

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Yep, well while we wait for this mini ice age thing we can enjoy the record breaking heat waves the world has been experiencing...

 

 

https://www.axios.com/global-heat-wave-stuns-scientists-as-records-fall-4cad71d2-8567-411e-a3f6-0febaa19a847.html

 

... weather is a very complicated thing so there's obviously debate as to what is causing the change but it's getting hard to deny weird shit is happening.

 

 

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2018/11/08/freezing-air-enters-homes-could-stop-99-per-cent-pollution-scientist/

 

Global cooling will get rd of pollution, may kill the food supply, but everything has a side affect.

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https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Winter-Causing-30-Year-Spell/dp/1630060356

The youtube video on this guy's predictions are some pretty scary shit. The Dalton minimum 1790 to 1820 caused 3 major earthquakes in 1811 in the middle of America. It depends on the solar cycles and whether we get a 30 year, 70 year or a 100 year cold pounding. Some say it will be 11 years, but if this guy is right, Canada and everybody above I 40 in America are screwed.

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And on the other side of the globe Australia is seeing a heatwave with record temperatures. Strange thigs are afoot with the weather.

 

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ambivalentmace:

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-cold-february-20190228-story.html

 

Never reached 70 degrees F, for the whole month of Feb for the first time in 132 years in Los Angeles, CA. Just a fluke I suppose.

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https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/jay-inslee-announces-climate-focused-2020-presidential-run-does-he-stand-a-chance/

 

I'm going to run on climate change for president and tax the hell out of everybody with Bezo's money for financing. See how briliant I am, never mind those 3 blizzards in Seatle this year, that was "NOTHING". LOL

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https://getpocket.com/explore/item/earth-s-orbital-shifts-may-have-triggered-ancient-global-warming?utm_source=pocket-newtab

 

So the shifts of the Earth's orbit can cause mass temperature changes of 8 degrees C worldwide plus or minus.

 

I wonder how many "woke" people will bother to even read this research. Why bother, just take a crap in a hole and ride your horse and feel sanctimonious.

icnif77:

 ... or trade BTC ...  ... and quit with the news overall ... 

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Dunno if I'm 'woke' enough to read this, I ate a salad the other day, does that count?

 

Anyway, I clicked on the link and read it, it's early in the morning here and I'm still half asleep so all that sciency stuff is hard to absorb but the summary paragraph........

 

"Whatever was responsible for the surge of carbon dioxide that preceded the PETM, the event—and the rise in global temperatures that followed—are the best analogue in the rock record for current human-caused global warming. That does not mean orbital forcing is playing a role in anthropogenic climate change, Zeebe says. In fact, humans are releasing carbon into the atmosphere far faster than it occurred at the time of the PETM, meaning its impacts could be more severe. “Obviously, orbital configurations today are very different than they were 56 million years ago,” he says. “And in terms of future climate change, there’s very little expectation that orbital forcing will reduce or mitigate [it]."......

 

just seems to be confirming what science has been saying for years now, that Earth has always cooled and warmed, we (humanity) have been pumping tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere which is greatly exacerbating the natural cycle and it's pretty unlikely any natural force is going to counter what we're doing.

 

I'm not sure what point OP is trying to make in his last sentence, maybe he crapped on his horse, fell in a hole and is feeling hungover.

 

 

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Yes ... , cooling and things ...

 

https://news.yahoo.com/possible-ufos-spotted-off-florida-210556712.html

 

Possible UFOs spotted off Florida coast

The National U.F.O. Reporting Center says there have been 245 new UFO reports through March 30th and now a Florida man has two more for the research outlet.

William Fuentes of Palm Coast sent video of two UFOs he spotted to WOFL, the Fox-owned TV station in Orlando. The dazzling video shows two orbs of light soaring airborne across the night sky.

 

... just in case, somebody wants Z visa ... 

 

icnif77:

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/something-fishy-happening-miami-thousands-koi-suddenly-die

Something Fishy Happening In Miami As Thousands Of Koi Suddenly Die 

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It keeps getting hotter....

 

 

http://www.politico.eu/article/last-7-years-hottest-record-copernicus-climate-change/

 

We can probably look forward to more of those thousand year floods, heat waves, fires etc we saw last year. Oh well, it keeps life interesting I suppose.

icnif77:

Nikolas??

 

https://www.earboo.com/rory-breaker-lock-stock-and-two-smoking-barrels

 

Click on 'Ni ko las' ...

 

'Milk' is good one, too ... 

 

Nicholas was also the first name of Copernicus ... 

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Rory Breaker: "What did you shoot him with, an air rifle?"

Winston: "Look, we grow weed. We're not mercenaries."

Rory Breaker: "You don't say." 

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At both links message is:

"Sorry! This content is not available in your region" 

 

I am using Vnp ... Same message without Vnp ... Yer links are not good.

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I have the same message as I try to open NewsHub from DDG search.

Sumtin' is wrong with the web ...

Had the same thingy yesterday at RT ... over TOR. Today RT works ..

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I have a NewsHub now.

 

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/03/covid-19-latest-on-parliament-protest-covid-19-community-outbreak-thursday-march-3.html

 

Wellingtonians are waking to their first day without the anti-mandate protest that had blocked the streets around Parliament for 22 days. 

Police are now back in control of Parliament grounds and the streets surrounding it after a day of violence on Wednesday that saw 65 people arrested, up to 50 vehicles towed and six officers requiring hospital treatment.

Meanwhile, the Ministry of Health has announced a record 22,152 new COVID infections and 405 people hospitalised with the disease on Wednesday. broken heart

 

She pronounces:

anti-mandate { pro-ti-sters } ... { aa-grii-sive } ... { dii-es-kee-leit } ... these are decisions for { thim } (them) ... about 60 { a-rii-sts } (arrests) ... too { ex-pin-sive }.

The speaker, she is also academic,  

Cops all look like an ex-rugby square prop players ...

 

I like Kiwi's humour ...

 

Jacinda: "My message for the protesters is simple:

'My hope is they put down their weapons long enough for the police to arrest them.'

 

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Stiggs:

The links are pretty much saying what you can see there...

 

First one : Climate change is happening now, we aren't ready for it.

 

Second one : A weather bomb unprecendented in scale hit Australia. It was described as a thousand year event - similar to what hit China and Europe last year. Don't know if you saw it on the news there, it was pretty unreal.

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Yeah, I can open NewsHub today ...

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https://www.rt.com/news/550990-us-nato-sanctions-wars/

 

The US and NATO have never been sanctioned for starting wars. Why?

The reaction to Russia’s attack on Ukraine, no matter what you think about it, has exposed the West’s double standards

 

Op-ed by Robert Bridge is an American writer and journalist. He is the author of 'Midnight in the American Empire,'

 

How Corporations and Their Political Servants are Destroying the American Dream.

The West has taken an extreme stance against Russia over its invasion in Ukraine. This reaction exposes a high degree of hypocrisy considering that US-led wars abroad never received the punitive response they deserved.

If the current events in Ukraine have proven anything, it’s that the United States and its transatlantic partners are able to run roughshod across a shell-shocked planet – in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and Syria, to name a few of the hotspots – with almost total impunity. Meanwhile, Russia and Vladimir Putin are being portrayed in nearly every mainstream media publication today as the second coming of Nazi Germany for their actions in Ukraine.

First, let’s be clear about something. Hypocrisy and double standards alone do not provide justification for the opening of hostilities by any country. In other words, just because NATO-bloc countries have been tearing a path of wanton destruction around the globe since 2001 without serious consequences, this does not give Russia, or any country, moral license to behave in a similar manner. There must be a convincing reason for a country to authorize the use of force, thereby committing itself to what could be considered ‘a just war’. Thus, the question: Can Russia’s actions today be considered ‘just’ or, at the very least, understandable? I will leave that answer up to the reader’s better judgment, but it would be idle not to consider some important details.

Only to the consumers of mainstream media fast food would it come as a surprise that Moscow has been warning on NATO expansion for well over a decade. In his now-famous speech to the Munich Security Conference in 2007, Vladimir Putin poignantly asked the assembled global powerbrokers point blank, “why is it necessary to put military infrastructure on our borders during this [NATO] expansion? Can someone answer this question?” Later in the speech, he said that expanding military assets smack up to the Russian border “is not connected in any way with the democratic choices of individual states.”

Not only were the Russian leader’s concerns met with the predictable amount of disregard amid the deafening sound of crickets, NATO has gone on to bestow membership on four more countries since that day (Albania, Croatia, Montenegro, and North Macedonia). As a thought experiment that even a dolt could conduct, imagine Washington’s reaction if Moscow were building a continuously expanding military bloc in South America, for example.

The real cause for Moscow’s alarm, however, came when the US and NATO began flooding neighboring Ukraine with a dazzling array of sophisticated weaponry amid calls for membership in the military bloc. What on earth could go wrong? In Moscow’s mind, Ukraine was beginning to pose an existential threat to Russia.

In December, Moscow, quickly nearing the end of its patience, delivered draft treaties to the US and NATO, demanding they halt any further military expansion eastwards, including by the accession of Ukraine or any other states. It included the explicit statement that NATO “shall not conduct any military activity on the territory of Ukraine or other states of Eastern Europe, South Caucasus and Central Asia.” Once again, Russia’s proposals were met with arrogance and indifference by Western leaders.

While people will have varying opinions as to the shocking actions that Moscow took next, nobody can say they were not warned. After all, it’s not like Russia woke up on February 24 and suddenly decided it was a wonderful day to start a military operation on the territory of Ukraine. So yes, an argument could be made that Russia had concern for its own security as a justification for its actions. Unfortunately, the same thing may be more difficult to say for the United States and its NATO minions with regards to their belligerent behavior over the course of the last two decades.

Consider the most notorious example, the 2003 invasion of Iraq. This disastrous war, which the Western media hacks have chalked up as an unfortunate ‘intelligence failure’, represents one of the most egregious acts of unprovoked aggression in recent memory. Without delving too deep into the murky details, the United States, having just suffered the attacks of 9/11, accused Saddam Hussein of Iraq of harboring weapons of mass destruction. Yet, instead of working in close cooperation with the UN weapons inspectors, who were on the ground in Iraq attempting to verify the claims, the US, together with the UK, Australia, and Poland, launched a ‘shock-and-awe’ bombing campaign against Iraq on March 19, 2003. In a flash, over a million innocent Iraqis suffered death, injury, or displacement by this flagrant violation of international law.

The Center for Public Integrity reported that the Bush administration, in its effort to bolster public support for the impending carnage, made over 900 false statements between 2001 and 2003 about Iraq’s alleged threat to the US and its allies. Yet somehow the Western media, which has become the most rabid proliferator for military aggression bar none, failed to find any flaw in the argument for war – that is, until after the boots and blood were on the ground, of course.

It might be expected, in a more perfect world, that the US and its allies were subjected to some stiff sanctions in the wake of this protracted eight-year ‘mistake’ against innocents. In fact, there were sanctions, just not against the United States. Ironically, the only sanctions that resulted from this crazy military adventure were against France, a NATO member that had declined the invitation, together with Germany, to participate in the Iraqi bloodbath. The global hyper-power is not used to such rejection, especially from its purported friends.

American politicians, self-assured in their Godlike exceptionalism, demanded a boycott of French wine and bottled water due to the French government’s “ungrateful” opposition to war in Iraq. Other agitators for war betrayed their lack of seriousness by insisting that the popular menu item known as ‘French Fries’ be substituted with the name ‘Freedom Fries’ instead. So the lack of French Bordeaux, together with the tedious redrafting of restaurant menus, seems to have been the only real inconveniences the US and NATO suffered for indiscriminately destroying millions of lives.

Now compare this kid gloves approach to the US and its allies to the current situation involving Ukraine, where the scales of justice are clearly weighed down against Russia, and despite its not unreasonable warnings that it was feeling threatened by NATO advances. Whatever a person may think about the conflict now raging between Russia and Ukraine, it cannot be denied that the hypocrisy and double standards being leveled against Russia by its perennial detractors is as shocking as it is predictable. The difference today, however, is that bombs are going off.

Aside from the severe sanctioning of Russian individuals and the Russian economy, perhaps best summed up by the French economy minister, who said his country is committed to waging “a total economic and financial war on Russia,” there has been a deeply disturbing effort to silence news and information coming from those Russian sources that might give the Western public the option of seeing Moscow's motivations. On Tuesday, March 1, YouTube decided to block the channels of RT and Sputnik for all European users, thereby allowing the Western world to seize another chunk of the global narrative.

Considering the way that Russia has been vilified in the ‘empire of lies’, as Vladimir Putin dubbed the land of his politically motivated persecutors, some may believe that Russia deserves the non-stop threats it is now receiving. In fact, nothing could be further from the truth. This sort of global grandstanding, which resembles some sort of mindless virtue-signaling campaign now so popular in liberal capitals, aside from unnecessarily inflaming an already volatile situation, assumes that Russia is totally wrong, period.

Such a reckless approach, which leaves no room for debate, no room for discussion, no room for seeing Russia’s side in this extremely complex situation, only guarantees further standoffs, if not full-blown global war, further down the road. Unless the West is actively seeking the outbreak of World War III, it would be advisable to stop the hideous hypocrisy and double standards against Russia and patiently listen to its opinions and version of events (even ones presented by foreign media). It’s not as unbelievable as some people may wish to believe.

LloydinYibin:

can you see Russia and China sanctioning the west?

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While, sanctions are usually imposed mutually, i.e. tit-for-tat, China and friends can't really sanction West 'cause of the smaller economical footprint in western countries, butT ... also western sanctions against China and others have a smaller impact because of support and unity among them.

Russians have the best, the cheapest and what not transportation of orbiting satellites and other matters in space above the Earth and since recent sanctions 'cause of Uki were imposed, Russians won't do it anymore and few western companies already cry because Russians negated on the contract for the satellites transport, I read.

Same is with China ... certain things Chinese have and supply West with, it just won't happened anymore.

Many western tech. companies are already looking for the new semiconductors supplier 'cause most likely Taiwan is the next country ... with similar crisis as Uki. Similar is with the Rare Earth elements/metals, which China is full off and REE are essential part of any high-tech device.

Next ... recession is looming ...

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It's a Comedy-Central ... @ZeroHedge:

 

Don’t Forget to Wear a Mask During a Nuclear Holocaust!

 

Many people don’t realize the biggest risk during global nuclear war is actually COVID.

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