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Q: Julian Assange - Why is he being robbed by Uncle Sam

At least Jesse James had guns!  Most people don't realize it but within 2 weeks of this video being released by Wikileaks (www.CollateralMurder.com). President Obama "directed" Master Card, Visa, Western Union and 37 International Banks to stop processing donations to Wikileaks and Julian Assange - and they all complied!   WTF?  Julian Assange is not a U.S. citizen, nor as he convicted of any crime.  Yet people around the globe are not allowed to donate their own money to to his legal fund or to keep Wikileaks operating!  The last time I checked Obama is President of The United States of America - not the world. What give's him the right to tell people in Europe, Asia, Latin America, or even America who they can give their own money to?  Uncle Sam has turned Obama into a bully prirate.  Assange did nothing but post truthful and factual information online that was provided by insiders. Because it was "inconvenient" that the U.S. was caught in the act of murder, does that give America the right to rob whistle blowers?  Here's the link... https://beattheblockade.org/

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Strange use of sarcasm, TMaster. I certainly see the relationship.

 

China is perceived by the West (quite fairly) as an Orwellian dystopia. It is known for censoring the truth, deleting history (including its own atrocities) and silencing dissent. Its political system has become the symbolic enemy of democracy and freedom.

 

But China only silences domestic whistle-blowers. Once outside China, detractors are beyond the CCP's reach (and America usually gives them a podium). The US, it seems, is allowed to silence whistle-blowers anywhere, regardless of their nationality.

 

As shadowy, tyrannical, truth-extinguishing powers, the parallels between America and China are many.

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I totally see the relation with China.

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I am afraid to click any of your links.

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Strange use of sarcasm, TMaster. I certainly see the relationship.

 

China is perceived by the West (quite fairly) as an Orwellian dystopia. It is known for censoring the truth, deleting history (including its own atrocities) and silencing dissent. Its political system has become the symbolic enemy of democracy and freedom.

 

But China only silences domestic whistle-blowers. Once outside China, detractors are beyond the CCP's reach (and America usually gives them a podium). The US, it seems, is allowed to silence whistle-blowers anywhere, regardless of their nationality.

 

As shadowy, tyrannical, truth-extinguishing powers, the parallels between America and China are many.

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Samsara nailed it. In fact, in many ways America is growing worse while China is inching its way out of tyranny.  The actions of the U.S. government is nothing less than criminal, and they flaunt their arrogance in the face of the world taunting anyone to stop them.  As an American it pains me to admit that we have forfeited the moral high ground with the phony Iraq War and I fear American will never reclaim it now.  They have trashed the concept of free speech,  genuine justice, and wouldn't recognize honor if it came up an bit Obama on the ass.

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Again stupidity reins supreme. Whether you agree with it or not Julian Assange broke the law by assisting Manning and the other guy to steals govt docs. Again you are forcing me to defend the wrong side. I agree with what Assange did but I'm not a child I know what he did was against the law. When someone is a fugitive it is common practice to freeze all their accounts and block money being sent to them. 

If I a resident of Canada worked online with a Chinese national to steal CCP docs, China would issue an arrest warr. for me. And Canadian officials would arrest me and send me to China to face the charges. If I became a fugitive , China would request that my accounts be froze and the govts with the appropriate agreements and laws in place would honor that request. 

Stop acting like babies and falling for the mouthpieces' trap. I agree with what Assange did even though he broke the law. But he broke the law! We should be pushing the relevant govts (he did not only break USA's  laws) to pardon him and reach an agreement for him to continue to be a news outlet but not take an active hand in stealing the docs. Also he should agree to redact names when necessary. 

You should really brief yourself about the facts of this case, otherwise you sound like a baby wanting your loli. 

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Excuse me, but Assange did not break into any computer. He only provided a public platform where ANYONE in the world (even you) could post information anonymously. It was a reporter who betrayed Manning not Wikileaks. Another thing, people living abroad in foreign countries are not obligated to follow laws of other countries where they do not reside nor own property.   EnglTeachTed, it is you who needs to learn the facts of this case.

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I see it as a question of what Government is, and what it should be.

 

In my view Government should be a group of people given a popular mandate to create and enforce laws designed to protect the population. By protect, I mean they are given the power to segregate common criminals from society, for the protection of society. It is the electorate that grant these powers to Government.

 

But something is going wrong in many western countries now. Governments are using their popular mandate to persecute people who pose no risk to the greater populace, but rather pose a risk to Government's credibility  by uncovering their unconstitutional actions.

 

Now, personally, I don't have much time for Assange. He should answer the allegations against him in Sweden.

 

Manning is different though. His only actual crime was to disobey a law that said he should keep Government secrets secret. In his case, he thought the secrets should be shared because they went against the mandate given to Government. In effect, he was jailed for his opinion.  Not a good example of western democracy.

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Julian ASSange is a huge cuntbag in DIRE need of a bullet to the head.

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Hey Hulkster, would you rather not know the below stuff and think you actually had some privacy in the world?  Would you rather not know that America used chemical weapons in Iraq (a war crime that killed 2000 civilians including 300+ kids)?  Someone has to tell us about the crimes and "ethical misdeeds" of our own government - or do you truly disagree?  If so why?

 

http://www.democracynow.org/2005/11/8/u_s_broadcast_exclusive_fallujah_the

 

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http://open.salon.com/blog/china_business_central/2013/11/06/what_secrets_did_china_learn_from_snowden_heres_10

 

Honestly, who is going to tell us this stuff other than whistle blowers?

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Old thread, but subject is hotter than ever ...:

 

https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-isolation-of-julian-assange-must-stop/...

 

The Isolation of Julian Assange Must Stop

We call on the government of Ecuador to allow Julian Assange his right of freedom of speech.

by John Pilger

 

If it was ever clear that the case of Julian Assange was never just a legal case, but a struggle for the protection of basic human rights, it is now.

Citing his critical tweets about the recent detention of Catalan president Carles Puidgemont in Germany, and following pressure from the US, Spanish and UK governments, the Ecuadorian government has installed an electronic jammer to stop Assange communicating with the outside world via the internet and phone. As if ensuring his total isolation, the Ecuadorian government is also refusing to allow him to receive visitors. Despite two UN rulings describing his detention as unlawful and mandating his immediate release, Assange has been effectively imprisoned since he was first placed in isolation in Wandsworth prison in London in December 2010. He has never been charged with a crime. The Swedish case against him collapsed and was withdrawn, while the United States has stepped up efforts to prosecute him. His only “crime” is that of a true journalist — telling the world the truths that people have a right to know.

Under its previous president, the Ecuadorian government bravely stood against the bullying might of the United States and granted Assange political asylum as a political refugee. International law and the morality of human rights was on its side.

Today, under extreme pressure from Washington and its collaborators, another government in Ecuador justifies its gagging of Assange by stating that “Assange’s behaviour, through his messages on social media, put at risk good relations which this country has with the UK, the rest of the EU and other nations.”

This censorious attack on free speech is not happening in Turkey, Saudi Arabia or China; it is right in the heart of London. If the Ecuadorian government does not cease its unworthy action, it, too, will become an agent of persecution rather than the valiant nation that stood up for freedom and for free speech. If the EU and the UK continue to participate in the scandalous silencing of a true dissident in their midst, it will mean that free speech is indeed dying in Europe.

This is not just a matter of showing support and solidarity. We are appealing to all who care about basic human rights to call on the government of Ecuador to continue defending the rights of a courageous free speech activist, journalist and whistleblower.

We ask that his basic human rights be respected as an Ecuadorian citizen and internationally protected person and that he not be silenced or expelled.

If there is no freedom of speech for Julian Assange, there is no freedom of speech for any of us — regardless of the disparate opinions we hold.

We call on President Moreno to end the isolation of Julian Assange now.

List of signatories (in alphabetic order):

Pamela Anderson, actress and activist

Jacob Appelbaum, freelance journalist

Renata Avila, International Human Rights Lawyer

Sally Burch, British/Ecuadorian journalist

Alicia Castro, Argentina’s ambassador to the United Kingdom 2012-16

Naomi Colvin, Courage Foundation

Noam Chomsky, linguist and political theorist

Brian Eno, musician

Joseph Farrell, WikiLeaks Ambassador and board member of The Centre for Investigative Journalism

Teresa Forcades, Benedictine nun, Montserrat Monastery

Charles Glass, American-British author, journalist, broadcaster

Chris Hedges, journalist

Srećko Horvat, philosopher, Democracy in Europe Movement (DiEM25)

Jean Michel Jarre, musician

John Kiriakou, former CIA counterterrorism officer and former senior investigator, U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations

Lauri Love, computer scientist and activist

Ray McGovern, former CIA analyst, Presidential advisor

John Pilger, journalist and film-maker

Angela Richter, theater director, Germany

Saskia Sassen, sociologist, Columbia University

Oliver Stone, film-maker

Vaughan Smith, English journalist

Yanis Varoufakis, economist, former Greek finance minister

Natalia Viana, investigative journalist and co-director of Agencia publica, Brazil

Ai Weiwei, artist

Vivienne Westwood, fashion designer and activist

Slavoj Žižek, philosopher, Birkbeck Institute for Humanities

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i always assumed asange was on the payrol of uncle sam

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all you need to know about assange: when he had a meeting about releasing american diplomatic cables, he was told releasing them without redacting the names of the iraqi informants and interpreters, these iraqis would likely be killed. assange responded "fuck them, they worked for americans, they deserve it". look at bbc documentary on assange

 

assange was accused of  a sex crime. granted sweden's sex crime laws are a little controversial, but certainly in my book, taking a woman from behind, taking your condom off without her knowing, then having unprotected sex without her knowlege, probably should be a crime. i will acknowledge, that this is only alleged, but with assange there is a hell of a lot of smoke. iw ould guess he is morally a bit repulsive

 

english law goes back many centuries. it has been adopted by and has influenced most developed countries in the world. it is based upon the independence of the judiaciary from politicians. if a judge has issued a warrant for your arrest, he has done so based upon what he perceives as the merits of a charge. now if you belive this judge was bought off or pressured (without any knowledge of the legal system or any proof) then you're insulting someboy who has achieved far more than you ever will. you're also believing that sweden, probably the most independant, humanistic country on earth, is complicit in some kind of conspiracy theory.

 

it does annoy me that the people who are most anti-american and anti-western come from the most dog-turd countries on the planet. countries with terrible human rights records, violate freedoms of the press and so on. yet they barely mention problems in thier own countries, chosing instead to blame every world problem on the u.s

 

the previous ecudorean president was a quasi-authoritarian. he is guilty of many things. yet i hear nothing from assange about this. very little about russia. 

 

if you get up in the morning an dyour sole purpose in life is to bitch about america, look yourself in the mirror. admit that if your own country had been a superpower it may have made serious missteps too. admit that your own country is not perfect. 

 

 

 

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-14/ecuador-restores-julian-assang...

 

Ecuador Restores Julian Assange's Internet, Phone And Visitation Privileges

 

Ecuador has partially restored Julian Assange's communications in their London Embassy after UN officials met with Ecuador's president, Lenin Moreno on Friday, reports the Belfast Telegraph

Assange, who has lived in the embassy for over six years, had his phone and internet access taken away in March over political statements he made in violation of "a written commitment made to the government at the end of 2017 not to issue messages that might interfere with other states." His visitor access was also limited to members of his legal team. 

"Ecuador has told WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange that it will remove the isolation regime imposed on him following meetings between two senior UN officials and Ecuador’s President Lenin Moreno on Friday," WikiLeaks said in a statement. 

Kristinn Hrafnsson, WikiLeaks editor-in-chief, added: “It is positive that through UN intervention Ecuador has partly ended the isolation of Mr Assange although it is of grave concern that his freedom to express his opinions is still limited.

“The UN has already declared Mr Assange a victim of arbitrary detention. This unacceptable situation must end.

The UK government must abide by the UN’s ruling and guarantee that he can leave the Ecuadorian embassy without the threat of extradition to the United States.” -Belfast Telegraph

Assange, having been granted political asylum by Ecuador, will not leave the embassy out of the belief that he will be arrested by UK authorities and extradited to the United States, where a Clinton-friendly DOJ awaits the arrival of the man Hillary once "joked" about murdering via drone strike. 

WikiLeaks' statement said that the meetings which resulted in the partial restoration of Assange's communications were held between President Moreno, the UN high commission for refugees, Filippo Grandi and UN special rapporteur for freedom of expression, David Kaye. 

"Concern over Mr Assange’s situation has also been raised by other UN bodies, as well as Human Rights Watch (who was refused access to him), Amnesty International, the Inter-American Court on Human Rights, Ecuador’s Permanent Human Rights Commission, and public protests," reads the statement in part. "Mr Assange was informed of Ecuador’s decision hours after Mr Grandi and Mr Kaye met with President Moreno." 

 

Mr Assange had critically reported on the Trump administration’s involvement in Yemen and Spanish police brutality. High level representations were made by the Trump administration and the Spanish government over Mr Assange, who was given political refugee status by Ecuador in 2012 over US attempts to prosecute him.

“The Trump administrations stepped up efforts to prosecute Mr Assange after WikiLeaks published the largest leak in the history of the CIA last year.

“The US has announced that it now considers Ecuador a ‘strategic ally’ and helped it secure a billion dollars in previously withheld loans.

“For almost seven months, Ecuador has kept Mr Assange in a regime that has been likened to solitary confinement by Human Rights Watch. Ecuador has prevented Mr Assange from receiving visitors other than his lawyers. It installed three sets of signal jammers in the embassy, to prevent Mr Assange from communicating using mobile phones or internet.

“The extrajudicial seven-month isolation of Mr Assange has interfered with his fundamental rights and the rights of his family. It has also prevented Mr Assange from working and giving public talks.

“Ecuador has also prevented all journalists from speaking to him during this time. Ecuador’s President until last year, Rafael Correa, has denounced Mr Assange’s treatment as ‘torture’ stating ‘the government is basically attacking Julian’s mental health’.

“Ecuador has informed Mr Assange that the government intends to continue Moreno’s policy of restricting him from expressing his opinions under threat of expulsion.” -WikiLeaks

While Assange's communications have been partially restored, he will still be restricted from expressing controversial opinions under threat of expulsion. 

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Leaked Files Confirm Julian Assange Plan To Move To MoscowProfile picture for user Tyler Durden by Tyler Durden Wed, 10/17/2018 - 22:252SHARES

A month after the Associated Press published internal WikiLeaks files which suggested the transparency organization's founder Julian Assange had since 2010 contemplated moving to Russia — outside the reach of US and UK authorities newly released Ecuadorean government documents have revealed a more elaborate plan to escape to Moscow by using Ecuadorean diplomatic cover

The documents show that the plan was being pursued as recently as 2017, and involved Assange being transferred from his Ecuadorean embassy hideout — where he's been stuck for the last six years via a politically sensitive process whereby Ecuador would name him as a political counselor to the country's embassy in Moscow

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Should the plan have succeeded, Assange could have possibly freely exited the UK for Russia as an official diplomat for Ecuador with all the legal protections afforded such status. However, British authorities vetoed his diplomatic status and refused to recognize such a designation, which ultimately blocked the plan from coming to fruition. 

According to the AP, which has linked to the 167 pages of Spanish language secret internal government documents, Assange was actually for a brief period made "political counselor" to the Ecuadorean Embassy in Moscow

 

The files were made public late Tuesday by Ecuadorean opposition lawmaker Paola Vintimilla, who opposes her government’s decision to grant Assange nationality. They largely corroborate a recent Guardian newspaper report that Ecuador attempted the elaborate maneuver to get Assange to Moscow just before Christmas last year.

Russian diplomats called the Guardian’s story “fake news,” but the government files show Assange briefly was made “political counselor” to the Ecuadorean Embassy in Moscow and eligible for a monthly salary pegged at $2,000.

It appears the leaks are part of an organized opposition plan to quash any possible future escape or transfer attempts before they materialize.

 

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