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Q: Missionary killed by tribe.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/21/us-tourist-killed-reclusive-...

 

 

 

 

 

Apparently there's still one small place on earth where people live off the land, hunting and gathering.

 

They probably have a great system going there with no materialism, greed, poverty, debt, taxes, landlords, politicians, political correctness,junk food,drug addiction,religious wars, media brainwashing, soul destroying 9 - 5 jobs, destruction of their environment etc...  and they're protected - as they should be - so that their way of life and culture is preserved and they aren't wiped out by outside diseases. Nice to see we've learnt something from years of colonialism.

 

So of course some arrogant Christian missionary, presumably with the backing of his church, decided they need to be converted and was promptly killed.

 

I don't blame them at all for killing any outsider on sight.

 

 

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This is how the UK will be once Brexit goes through...

ambivalentmace:

yes the current Londonistan is much better than regressing back to just plain old London again.

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Where is Londonistan? I mean, I lived and worked in London for a few years and it was great. Dragging the city out of the EU will just be throwing the place back to knuckle dragging gammons rather than retaining the awesome cosmopitan charm of what is Europe's largest city...

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i guess you have not looked at the crime statistics by decade against the influx of immigrants, stay behind your walls and chauffers and you will be fine.

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I have seen the influx in crime as the welfare state has been slashed and funding to police and their numbers have been ravaged by a Conservative government. Since immigrants barely make up 2% of the UK population I think you are placing far too much emphasis on a tiny fraction of people for the influx in crime.

 

And I am teacher, what teachers in the UK do you know that have chauffeurs? An Uber occassionally but thats hardly pushing the boat now is it? Stupid comment there mate.

 

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I have seen the influx in crime as the welfare state has been slashed and funding to police and their numbers have been ravaged by a Conservative government. Since immigrants barely make up 2% of the UK population I think you are placing far too much emphasis on a tiny fraction of people for the influx in crime.

 

And I am teacher, what teachers in the UK do you know that have chauffeurs? An Uber occassionally but thats hardly pushing the boat now is it? Stupid comment there mate.

 

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Just for the sake of arguement here, if conservatives cutting others peoples money have caused your problems and not immigrants, where did the money go instead and what was it used for.

 

new bullet trains, another war perhaps, how about the money from 10 thousand millionaires that have fled France and moved to England in the last decade, how about the increase in money and lower wages from legal Eastern Europeans who came to work in England. These migrants did not contribute revenue to the governments.

 

I love how any cut killed a place for a century, but influx of money coming in is never given credit and nobody ever knows where the money went. PERHAPS, too many promises were made and despite new revenues and new taxpayers, assuming immigrants are the ideal tax paying obedient citizens everybody tries to brainwash local people to believe, what really is going on is promises to the older workers can't be kept and they don't trust the system they worked for a life time for and are voting for anything that is not the current system. NO, they cant be true, everything is wonderful and great, they are all just racists has beens and we know what is best for them for their own good. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT, Nationalism is sweeping Europe because its been a seething powder keg of anger under the surface against globalism by non urban voters all over Europe that has been building for 2 decades. The hypocrisy of urban dwellers acting like they did not know this and not knowing what they have done to these people just shows how arrogant and elite and RACISTS these leftist truly are in real life. I am enjoying the hell out of this, The show has just started, but if you have a weak stomach, immigrate to Africa, they love multiculturalism down there, peace everywhere. I have heard that Africa does not have Pakistani British citizen pedophiles in Africa protected by the police and courts with gag orders so your kids might be safer in Africa,not sure about better educated though. Everything is a compromise CHEERIO

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https://izajodm.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/2193-9039-2-19

 

Here is a left wing academic study of crime and immigration in England and Wales.

 

I expect it too be very bias but even this paper shows 2 percent is a nice fabrication of reality.

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http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/06/21/5-facts-about-migration-and-the-united-kingdom/

 

Let's manipulate some numbers today, boring day in China, What can you do?

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https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/631471/London-population-immigration-migrants-infrastructure-strain

 

ONE in three people who live in London were born abroad and immigrants are set to account for half the capital’s population within 15 years.

 

The money problems are going to get much worse, I got an idea instead of making all the middle eastern rich Muslims in London pay more taxes just make the rural hicks with no education pay for this mess, We know what is best for them. I would suggest you call the folks that run San Francisco to help you out with the problem. the best liberal city in America, or we like to call "heaven on earth".

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Jeezus, mate, you have really flown off on a tangent here.

 

Some of what you said makes sense from a certain point of view, and somewhere in the middle is a mish mash of truth unitl this gem... "Pakistani British citizen paedophiles...' 82% of those on the UK sex offenders register are white, many of the EDL, the right wing tropes have seen hordes of their banged up for molesting kids but they keep silent and point fingers at foreigners so no respect for that statement, at all. 

 

https://fullfact.org/news/are-asians-disproportionately-represented-prosecutions-sex-offences/

 

We were talking about the influx in immigrants and the link to crime of which there is little. As for 10000 millionaires, where? They arent in fucking England mate. Lunacy.

 

And with a contirubution of £25bn to the UK coffers, take a bow migrant workers.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/immigration-uk-economy-what-are-the-benefits-stats-theresa-may-amber-rudd-tory-conference-speeches-a7346121.html

 

Like I stated, some aspects I can see sense in, some, like a bucket with a hole in it dont hold water.

 

Now, not all research agrees with this article but like with your sources, it depends where you choose to cherry pick information from.

 

https://fullfact.org/immigration/do-eu-immigrants-contribute-134-every-1-they-receive/

 

Whoo hoo for slow China days... Merry Christmas and all that shite to you mate!

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And where did the money go? The Tories tripled the national debt in 5 years, forced auterity measures on the country and gave huge tax cuts to their wealthy party donors. Fact. Check out the UN report on poverty in the UK and government policy as a direct cause.

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religion sure does cause a lot of problems. some religions kill people because those people follow another religion. What is interesting as both religions will claim to follow a god that says "thou shall not kill".

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He was religious but was not working as a missionary. Agreed that he had absolutely no business being there though. I have read about the Sentinalese before, at no point would I ever want to try to contact these people. The arrogance on this guys part bothers me. He could have carried pathogens that would have wiped these people out and he did it for pics on his Instagram account.

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Freedom of navigation went wrong for him

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"Ya screw those 9-5 jobs, civilization, and health advancements in science. Let's all pick berries and hunt our own food for the rest of our lives", says no sane person. 

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He was just researching for a remake of Gilligan's Island. 

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This is how the UK will be once Brexit goes through...

ambivalentmace:

yes the current Londonistan is much better than regressing back to just plain old London again.

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DangoPhett:

Where is Londonistan? I mean, I lived and worked in London for a few years and it was great. Dragging the city out of the EU will just be throwing the place back to knuckle dragging gammons rather than retaining the awesome cosmopitan charm of what is Europe's largest city...

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ambivalentmace:

i guess you have not looked at the crime statistics by decade against the influx of immigrants, stay behind your walls and chauffers and you will be fine.

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DangoPhett:

I have seen the influx in crime as the welfare state has been slashed and funding to police and their numbers have been ravaged by a Conservative government. Since immigrants barely make up 2% of the UK population I think you are placing far too much emphasis on a tiny fraction of people for the influx in crime.

 

And I am teacher, what teachers in the UK do you know that have chauffeurs? An Uber occassionally but thats hardly pushing the boat now is it? Stupid comment there mate.

 

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DangoPhett:

I have seen the influx in crime as the welfare state has been slashed and funding to police and their numbers have been ravaged by a Conservative government. Since immigrants barely make up 2% of the UK population I think you are placing far too much emphasis on a tiny fraction of people for the influx in crime.

 

And I am teacher, what teachers in the UK do you know that have chauffeurs? An Uber occassionally but thats hardly pushing the boat now is it? Stupid comment there mate.

 

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Just for the sake of arguement here, if conservatives cutting others peoples money have caused your problems and not immigrants, where did the money go instead and what was it used for.

 

new bullet trains, another war perhaps, how about the money from 10 thousand millionaires that have fled France and moved to England in the last decade, how about the increase in money and lower wages from legal Eastern Europeans who came to work in England. These migrants did not contribute revenue to the governments.

 

I love how any cut killed a place for a century, but influx of money coming in is never given credit and nobody ever knows where the money went. PERHAPS, too many promises were made and despite new revenues and new taxpayers, assuming immigrants are the ideal tax paying obedient citizens everybody tries to brainwash local people to believe, what really is going on is promises to the older workers can't be kept and they don't trust the system they worked for a life time for and are voting for anything that is not the current system. NO, they cant be true, everything is wonderful and great, they are all just racists has beens and we know what is best for them for their own good. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT, Nationalism is sweeping Europe because its been a seething powder keg of anger under the surface against globalism by non urban voters all over Europe that has been building for 2 decades. The hypocrisy of urban dwellers acting like they did not know this and not knowing what they have done to these people just shows how arrogant and elite and RACISTS these leftist truly are in real life. I am enjoying the hell out of this, The show has just started, but if you have a weak stomach, immigrate to Africa, they love multiculturalism down there, peace everywhere. I have heard that Africa does not have Pakistani British citizen pedophiles in Africa protected by the police and courts with gag orders so your kids might be safer in Africa,not sure about better educated though. Everything is a compromise CHEERIO

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ambivalentmace:

https://izajodm.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/2193-9039-2-19

 

Here is a left wing academic study of crime and immigration in England and Wales.

 

I expect it too be very bias but even this paper shows 2 percent is a nice fabrication of reality.

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ambivalentmace:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/06/21/5-facts-about-migration-and-the-united-kingdom/

 

Let's manipulate some numbers today, boring day in China, What can you do?

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https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/631471/London-population-immigration-migrants-infrastructure-strain

 

ONE in three people who live in London were born abroad and immigrants are set to account for half the capital’s population within 15 years.

 

The money problems are going to get much worse, I got an idea instead of making all the middle eastern rich Muslims in London pay more taxes just make the rural hicks with no education pay for this mess, We know what is best for them. I would suggest you call the folks that run San Francisco to help you out with the problem. the best liberal city in America, or we like to call "heaven on earth".

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Jeezus, mate, you have really flown off on a tangent here.

 

Some of what you said makes sense from a certain point of view, and somewhere in the middle is a mish mash of truth unitl this gem... "Pakistani British citizen paedophiles...' 82% of those on the UK sex offenders register are white, many of the EDL, the right wing tropes have seen hordes of their banged up for molesting kids but they keep silent and point fingers at foreigners so no respect for that statement, at all. 

 

https://fullfact.org/news/are-asians-disproportionately-represented-prosecutions-sex-offences/

 

We were talking about the influx in immigrants and the link to crime of which there is little. As for 10000 millionaires, where? They arent in fucking England mate. Lunacy.

 

And with a contirubution of £25bn to the UK coffers, take a bow migrant workers.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/immigration-uk-economy-what-are-the-benefits-stats-theresa-may-amber-rudd-tory-conference-speeches-a7346121.html

 

Like I stated, some aspects I can see sense in, some, like a bucket with a hole in it dont hold water.

 

Now, not all research agrees with this article but like with your sources, it depends where you choose to cherry pick information from.

 

https://fullfact.org/immigration/do-eu-immigrants-contribute-134-every-1-they-receive/

 

Whoo hoo for slow China days... Merry Christmas and all that shite to you mate!

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And where did the money go? The Tories tripled the national debt in 5 years, forced auterity measures on the country and gave huge tax cuts to their wealthy party donors. Fact. Check out the UN report on poverty in the UK and government policy as a direct cause.

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What gets me is the twitter feeds on the MSN articles about this. Quickly followed up with articles explaining what uncontacted people are. The ignorance is amazing. A big failure from Sting I say. Remember him? The singer that said leave uncontated ppl alone, then set off into the forest to watch their 'aloneness'.

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There're no news about 'how ...', i.e. 'premeditated' or 'deliberate' and similar terms... The guy might got grilled, before the 'swallowing' process.

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All missionaries should try to go there 1 at a time (hope they have enough arrows)

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Kinda silly them going to the trouble to get the body* back.  So more people can die getting his body back?  What's this human fascination with taking care of dead bodies anyway?  The fkr is dead.  Hell, cremate me and be done with it.  Unless you are super-cool like Commander Amstrong and rate a burial at sea.  That way u get back in the Food Chain.  Fish gotta eat too!

 

*probably no body left to be recovered anyway,,, bet they made shish-kebap outta him....

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The parents have forgiven the uncontacted tribe for killing their son.

Good on them.

The Amish done the same when a redneck shot up an Amish school.

But there is a difference.

These Christians lost their son for the cause, to get their heaven ticket.. but never once questioned why their omnipotant God had not already done the job.

The difference is, the Amish forgived, raised money for the killers funeral, and expected nothing back from God.

I suspect the missionaries parents now feel their place in the afterlife is assured.

Its very similar to an Islamic suicide bomber when you think about it.

Die for the cause, your place in heaven is assured and all that.

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The whole thing about uncontacted tribes is too big for my feeble mnd. I have been reading about it for years. My interest started with the Pitcairn sex abuse scandal.

Basically, Pitcairn island is british. Mutiny on the bounty and all that. Turns out the men were raping the girls. The brits sent cops, the islanders said it was cultural.

What if uncontacted tribes do the same? What if they do sex abuse or maybe human sacrifice? Maybe they BBQ babies to satisfy their God.

We dont know what they do. They are uncontacted by definition.

There is a moral issue. Leave them alone, let their kids be born into God knows what, or enforce UN human right laws around the globe.

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https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/nov/30/sentinelese-t...

 

Sentinel Island's 'peace-loving’ tribe had centuries of reasons to fear missionary

'Don't come on to the island'

 The history of Sentinel Island, home to a 30,000-year-old tribe  

 

They are even older than Chinese ... tribe ... he he

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Only a 5000 year history? They're just the new kids on the block.

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Maybe thats where God has been hiding the past 2000 years.

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Me ... Hiding? Am in Turkish ''Allan's Snack Bar''... 

 

... with a bit less than 40 classes per week on average. 

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Alan, it would be ironic if God did go there to hide, caught the flu from a missionary and died.

 

I saw this article just now. It seems that the missionary agency that supported John Chau knows nothing about the risks they bring to uncontacted tribes, and it doesn't really seem like they care much.

 

 

 

https://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/experts-shut-down-missionary-groups-comments-on-the-death-of-man-killed-by-tribe/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Stiggs... reports say he wanted to bring forward the rapture. If you have youtube, the young turks has an excellent commentry on it. From a guy subjected to religion as a child.

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