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Q: A more humane society or a way to boost property prices?

Letting 100 million people move about. What other reasons than boosting the property market could there be for this ? 

 

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2014-07/30/c_133520006.htm

 

Naturally giving people such freedom is good for the people, but also has a feeling of sheep-herding. 

 

 

Edit: SCMP has a nice infographic here

 

 

from this article

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1563062/china-scraps-urban-rural-...

 

5 years 24 weeks ago in  Housing - China

 
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It is about time. I hate the hukou system. It is similar to serfdom. The peasants are stuck in the same place with no chance of improving their families lives. I understand they want to keep farmers in the fields so they can have cheap food but it is not fair that they are denied opportunities just because they were born in the countryside.

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The hukou system also affects people living in some cities. My wife is registered as a worker, her best friend who lives across the road is registered as a farmer although this place is nothing like farmland. Perhaps it once was. The road is the demarcation line. Her friend was unable to attend the same high school but is allowed to have more children, receive a monthly stipend from the local council and receive a 0% interest loan for her house.

That said, most people in this country do not receive any appreciable benefit from this system. I can see the logic in wanting to maintain farming and preventing too many people from going to the cities for work which would place a larger than planned for strain upon infrastructure. This is a tough issue when trying to balance so many factors.

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yes all those bright minds coming back from the west, modernizing farms with western technology and eliminating the general labor that peasants do and they have to migrate to the cities. damn capitalists screwing up the harmonious social order of china again.

i suppose you could give them a house with no down payment, but do they have the skills and is there jobs for them to make the payments.

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Great, more farmers coming to cities and having nothing else to do than staring at foreigners all day long.

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This is good news.

 

I wonder if the farmers will sell their land off leading to loads of mega farms and a land owning white collar farmer class.

 

Food prices will go up, because farm workers will probably become wage earners rather than small holders.

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They're all coming to the cities to learn English. Chinese might start to clone 'Native English teachers' at this rate

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I thought the Koreans were already doing that.

 

Only joking Smile

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I've also hated the hukou system for the same reason. It kept farmers as a peasant underclass. It also was a way of making sure minorities stayed in their ghetto provinces, which had the dual benefit of concentrating them in convenient locations for gawking Han tourists, and making sure that majority Han cities didn't risk becoming too integrated. 

 

This could mean that food prices go up, but I am cool with paying a few more RMB on my grocery bill if it means fair (well, more fair) wages for farm workers. 

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Those who think food prices go up. Wouldn't this help drive a change from tiny land plots to proper mechanized farming with higher efficiency ? 

 

China's farms have a really low average field size compared to the developed world. A dude with his shovel is just not gonna cut it versus a big ass farm vehicle

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hukou is a broken asinine system but this is kind of a broken asinine society. on the one hand it is wrong to tell people they gotta stay in their shitty locations, but on the other hand if the did allow free settlement the mass mentality would make nearly everyone try to pile into the big 4 at once for fear of missing out. it would ruin the city and the country at once.

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Hmmm. I just remembered that they are going to let Zhuhai grow from 1,5 million to 2,5 million. That will fuck up our small fishing village good. The infrastructure is already overloaded, and looking at the areas where shit will be built, will only mean more load on some of the main infrastructure.... that in many cases cannot be expanded easily. 

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