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Q: Sanctuary state leds to murder of woman and the killer gets off? WTF!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jury-reaches-verdict-san-francisco-pier-shoot...

 

 

Woman shot by 5X deportee who SFPD refused to detain and now he gets off even after admitting that he shot her 

 

As I said Trump will get a second term because Dems refuse to do what Americans want

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WTF???

 

And, I'm talking about the OP and the posts above!

 

What Trump (and those above) are actually bitching about is the fact that the US of A has a legal system in which everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty (because, you know, a lot of the time they are!! Even when people thought they weren't), that gives everyone the right to a 'fair' hearing (as much as possible), that people are tried according to the laws and statutes of the land and that evidence must be provided such that a group of peers must find beyond reasonable doubt that a crime (which is explicitly and minutely detailed in the law books) has been committed by the perpetrator.

 

THAT is what you're actually complaining about!!!

 

This case has NOTHING to do with the fact that the guy was an illegal immigrant, and his guilt or innocence of murder is completely unrelated to that fact!

 

"Ballistic experts testified that the bullet ricocheted about 15 feet (4.5 meters) from where Zarate was sitting and then traveled another 80 feet (24 meters) before striking Steinle in the back and piercing her heart.

His attorneys argued that even an expert marksman would have difficulty pulling off such a "skip shot.""

Being guilty of, and in dire need of punishment for, his illegal entry and stay in the country is one thing. But it in NO WAY makes him guilty (nor should be punished for) the murder (and possibly even manslaughter) of the woman...

 

And you guys (especially you 'Americans') ought to be fucking ashamed of yourselves for disparaging your legal system in such a way... (in this case). From all that I've read, all acceptable evidence was well considered, and he got the verdict he deserved.

 

 

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Seems guilty of something, maybe not pre-meditated First-degree murder, but, come on!  guilty of something. scumbag said he shot her!  Involuntary manslaughter minimum.  

Sometimes the jury system is like a bad joke.

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'Value of US citizenship ....' comes to my mind while reading this.

 

It was mistake by the prosecutor who didn't impose ban on all reporting ....., so defence got a leg to stand on easily.

Bullet also bounced before fatally hit the victim, so 'intent to kill' is non-existent ....

 

IMO, this case shouldn't be treated any different than 'an underage victim' case, i.e. 'gag on all reporting'!

 
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/nazis-anger-over-kate-steinle-204511322.html

 

President Trump and FOX News aren’t the only ones angry over the verdict in the Kate Steinle trial, wherein undocumented Mexican immigrant Jose Ines Garcia Zarate was acquitted of first-degree murder, second-degree murder, as well as most of the charges he faced.

Neo-Nazis and white nationalists, many of whom were present in Charlottesville, Virginia this August when a young man allegedly murdered antiracist activist Heather Heyer, gathered in front of the White House this afternoon to use Steinle’s death to call for stricter laws on immigration. The group, which numbered at roughly two dozen, according to eyewitnesses, featured Richard Spencer, the man who has become synonymous with so-called alt-right politics. It also featured Matthew Heimbach of the explicitly National Socialist group Traditionalist Worker Party (TWP) and Mike Enoch, a white nationalist blogger that has become a mainstay at events like these.

The group was met by anti-fascist protesters (“antifa”), who more than doubled them in number, according to eyewitnesses and streaming video of the event. These men and women waved red and black flags and shouted the protesters down with slogans like “Nazi punks fuck off!” The pop-up event lasted 20 minutes before Nazi and white nationalists protesters, backed by a police escort, disappeared into Washington DC.

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The world is getting 'smallar' which is a double-edged sword. Low lives and cockroaches get to enter whatever countries easier too. 

 

Get that wall up, shields up. Kick and keep all misfits from foreignerland out. Trump gets it right. Even a ten year old kid knows it is his duty to keep his room clean.

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WTF???

 

And, I'm talking about the OP and the posts above!

 

What Trump (and those above) are actually bitching about is the fact that the US of A has a legal system in which everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty (because, you know, a lot of the time they are!! Even when people thought they weren't), that gives everyone the right to a 'fair' hearing (as much as possible), that people are tried according to the laws and statutes of the land and that evidence must be provided such that a group of peers must find beyond reasonable doubt that a crime (which is explicitly and minutely detailed in the law books) has been committed by the perpetrator.

 

THAT is what you're actually complaining about!!!

 

This case has NOTHING to do with the fact that the guy was an illegal immigrant, and his guilt or innocence of murder is completely unrelated to that fact!

 

"Ballistic experts testified that the bullet ricocheted about 15 feet (4.5 meters) from where Zarate was sitting and then traveled another 80 feet (24 meters) before striking Steinle in the back and piercing her heart.

His attorneys argued that even an expert marksman would have difficulty pulling off such a "skip shot.""

Being guilty of, and in dire need of punishment for, his illegal entry and stay in the country is one thing. But it in NO WAY makes him guilty (nor should be punished for) the murder (and possibly even manslaughter) of the woman...

 

And you guys (especially you 'Americans') ought to be fucking ashamed of yourselves for disparaging your legal system in such a way... (in this case). From all that I've read, all acceptable evidence was well considered, and he got the verdict he deserved.

 

 

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I have 7 americans on my wechat. 2 are full time here. 5 are contractors who are on proper business visas. The other 2 work illegally on spouse visas.

In my experience, the nationality least likely to be legal in China.... Americans.

'Yeah.. I am legal, I just need to go HK once a month'

' Yeah I have a work permit, the Chinese government holds it because I am a special teacher'.

' Hey man... I dont need a work permit... I am American'

'Hey... I have a chinese wife. Not my fault if the immigration laws are wrong. Fuck the laws...

' Hey man, they should be gratefull I came here to show them the better way'.

Hay man... too many fucking immigrants... taking my job.

Hello all, my name is professor Johnson. I am White...

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Something is wrong with this thread on my puter. 

 

Scots, whataboutism

 

Comparing sb who is registered and got permission to enter the country albeit under false pretenses with sb who sneaks into the country unregistered and has no permission at all. Foreign English teachers do a specially skilled job that extremely few locals can do. Teachers who come here on the wrong take jobs away from legal teachers not locals.

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Your whataboutism fails

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Ahh... So illegal American teachers are here illegally because Chinese are not able to do the job. So the Chinese Government invite the illegals... to come be illegal.

Thats a bit like building a wall with a VIP tunnel underneath.

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And nobody talks about the real issue... Guns everywhere.

I picked up a knife yesterday, I thought to myself... hey lets stab a seal... I threw it at 1500fps, it missed the seal, bounced off a pavement 80 feet, and killed someone.

Or...,I had a knife in my hand, and it accidentally flew 100 feet and killed someone.

Why are guns with no safety banned. Why are guns not banned.

Phones have fingerprint stuff now. But not guns.

There is an interesting story to this... if I can find it.

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You got me again with your whataboutism, let's stay on topic. You are arguing in support of people going to a country illegally?

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/12/01/kate-stein...

 

The Justice Department has issued an arrest warrant for the Mexican immigrant acquitted Thursday in the 2015 killing of Kate Steinle in San Francisco, a case that has reignited a rallying cry for stricter immigration reform and a crackdown on so-called “sanctuary cities.”

An official confirmed to The Washington Post that the Justice Department is considering surprise federal charges against  Jose Ines Garcia Zarate, who has remained in law enforcement custody. Officials said Garcia Zarate  — a 45-year-old Mexican national who had entered the United States illegally six times — will be deported. They noted that his existing federal detainer order requires that he be transferred to the custody of the U.S. Marshals Service and transported to Texas.

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Arizona Cop Acquitted For Killing Crawling Man Who Was Begging For His Life: Graphic Video

Arizona jurors watched the video below, which shows former Mesa, Arizona, police officer Philip Mitchell Brailsford shooting and killing a man who was begging for his life and attempting to follow the officer's orders to crawl down a hotel hallway.

 

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