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Q: So it was actually due to poor mental health protocols and not gun laws?

4 years 27 weeks ago in  Shopping - China

 
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It's a combination of poor mental health care and access to high capacity magazine, semi-automatic firearms. Anyone who thinks an AR-15 isn't an assault rifle is just playing semantics.

 

I also think that the media is playing a role in this. The infamy of being a school shooter is there to be had for anyone who wants it. Many people die on the streets of South Chicago everyday but the news media don't care. School shootings breed fear and fear gets ratings.

 

School shootings only account for a small portion of gun homicides in America but they elevate the level of fear in what is already a very fearful nation.

 

I am a gun owner but I do not think people should have access to firearms such as AR-15's or handguns.

 

 

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Off on a bit of a tangent on this Engteach.

Another one today. Nodody dead thankfully.

The BBC said a security guard shot the shooter.

The huff post said nowt about a security guard.

Fox said reports suggest a security guard stopped it.

Breitbart were out to lunch and said something about an assault rifle ban in Maryland.

CNN was going on about Stormy Daniels.

BBC seems to be the most neutral and factual. Reporting what they believe to be verified facts. They get it wrong sometimes of course, but all news outlets had access to the same info. Then they report different things.

This, in my view, is the real issue in the US, and to an extent, the world.

People can pick and choose what media to read and watch so that it matches what they believe.

Regarding the story you linked above, do you really want big Government with departments that talk to each other?

Or put it this way. I have had a few episodes in my life where my , how can I say, mental stabilly was a bit skewed. If I was a gun fan, no way would I have gone to the doc if he was in a position to take my guns away.

This whole mental heath thing is a deflexion. Its like this. On day of the shooting, its mental health. In court, the prosecution argues he is sane so can be executed.

Think about that. Would you be happy if this guy is determined insane and sent to a hospital without trial? Then after 10 years of tax payer funded treatment is released?

Or would you prefer he is declared sane, stands trial, and is sent to death row to await his injection?

ambivalentmace:

As I said in previous posts, this started in the 80's when Reagan basically said that mental health care was costing more then prisons and schools and was a huge piggy bank for the mental health professionals and he closed them all and many ended up homeless on the streets.

 

The problem is nobody has a good alternative that does not end up being another bloated expensive bureaucratic mess. The VA costs more now with veterans passing away from wwII and much less casualties and injuries from warfare than it did when he world war veterans, vietnam, and korea, were all being patients at the same time, actually 6 times the patients now.

 

Does anybody, any country have a good mental health system, China has occasional crazy people stab a tourist here and there, or at least they say they are crazy as an excuse and things are under reported here. How is this handled in Europe? Is it any better? On a side note about the shooter, Did this kid grow up without a father like the other 90 percent of mass shooters in America in the last 20 years? A sociological point that never gets discussed.

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Stiggs:

Ambi .. I think I remember reading somewhere the kid was an orphan or abandoned or something, and living with the family of a friend.

 

 

 

 

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ScotsAlan:

I get your point Ambi. Mental heathcare is expensive. My sister, for example, is severly mentaly disabled, to the extent that she is totally unable to function. She is 46 and still wears nappies. She was in a hospital for life, a hospital system that.supported tens of thousands like her, and hundreds of thousands who were more functiining. But Thatcher shut the hospitals down. Care in the community. The disabled can contribute. Bollocks. Care in the community costs more than institutions. My sister was in a hospital ward with about 20 other worst case disabled(brain damaged). Three shifts of 5 nurses per shift looked after all of them. The hospital had maybe 500 patients, but only needed 1 doctor for all per shift. After maggie, all the patients were sent out, the hospital closed, and the government BOUGHT, a house for every patient and paid a PRIVATE landlord to maintain the house, and paid PRIVATE nursing teams to care for my sister. One nurse per shift, 3 shifts per day, plus cleaners and laundry. Every patient from my sisters ward got their own private hospital. The private sector made a killing. And the tax payer pays.

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More like it was due to the FBI dropping the ball. He was reported several times and they did nothing. 

Englteachted:

That too, so the irony is, this case which really has nothing to do with lax gun laws might lead to stricter gun laws

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icnif77:

Yes, you're right:

 

 

Yes, Gun Confiscation Just Happened In Florida, And It Will Happen Nationwide

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-20/yes-gun-confiscation-just-happened-florida-and-it-will-happen-nationwide

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Englteachted:

Icnif: I hope you realize why people (with brains) don't read zerhedge.

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icnif77:

Sometimes, I stay only on headlines ... but comments gave me 'right'&'wrong' view.

Reporting news ... Zero is way ahead of all others, if that counts.

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It's a combination of poor mental health care and access to high capacity magazine, semi-automatic firearms. Anyone who thinks an AR-15 isn't an assault rifle is just playing semantics.

 

I also think that the media is playing a role in this. The infamy of being a school shooter is there to be had for anyone who wants it. Many people die on the streets of South Chicago everyday but the news media don't care. School shootings breed fear and fear gets ratings.

 

School shootings only account for a small portion of gun homicides in America but they elevate the level of fear in what is already a very fearful nation.

 

I am a gun owner but I do not think people should have access to firearms such as AR-15's or handguns.

 

 

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