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Q: What happened to pilots?

http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/27/news/companies/pilot-shortage-figures/index.html

 

I got a private pilot license but my eyesight kept me out of the big ones.

 

In the 80's, an american pilot was easily 3 to 4 thousand dollars a week salary.

Deregulation and competition kept squeezing salaries to the point that a pilot for Southwestern was making less than a truck driving graduate.

 

In China in 2010, I met a retired China Air Force pilot, making 5000 rmb monthly salary at China Eastern, about what a taxi driver was making, but he did have some nice perks. Free fitness center, free park admissions all over Jinan, housing provided by the company for him and family, private school for his kids paid by the company. He wanted to work in Hong Kong after 5 years experience for Cathay Pacific for 40000 rmb a month.

 

China is so restrictive on airspace and crowded that flight schools are impossible and the Air Force can't give the private sector enough pilots.

 

Saudi Arabia has 1500 pilots and only about a 100 or so, are actually Saudi citizens and the salary is about 2000 dollars american with housing.

 

any observations on other countries, pay and training, I think this could raise air fares more than fuel in the future unless the shortage is fixed unless we go to no pilot automatic planes but too many variable with weather to get that done anytime soon.

 

I look back at my youth and remember thinking being a doctor or a pilot was a great job and 30 years later, the powers that be lied to me and they were wrong. The headaches of being a pilot or a doctor for the pay and aggravation, people are saying "no", I wonder what the next job that is great will become a has been shortage profession.

 

I can see pressure on teachers to perform in America based on bad schools, the new idea "is ready the first day" like teaching is not a learning curve and more evaluations and reports and less teaching and time with students, I can see in news reports that graduates are not choosing teaching, creating a shortage, so what profession is next. I find the cause and effect, unintended consequences quite interesting, although most people pay no attention until years later, "oh my god, how did this happen".

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The pilot shortage will get much worse, they have been raising standards and flight time requirements for positions rather than lowering them.

 

The next job to get the axe are going to be College Professors, which is a good thing in my opinion, costs have gone up so bad that colleges are using part time professors, some don't even have an office and a desk to grade papers at the school. The safe tenured ones are not backing down and still wanting more and as they replace them all with part timers and they all die off, the new ones will come in under new contracts and less beneficial terms.

Adding to the problem, men are saying screw college with the headaches of being called a sexist, rapists, etc. and the price does not justify the ending salaries in most cases now, so the lack of enrollment will squeeze the professors and colleges even more on cost.

States wanting more online classes, same affect. I can see professors in 20 years barely making the salary of a plumber if things continue this way. On the plus side, most professors will probably be females in 20 years so then the males might return if tuition stops climbing and at least have some eye candy with their boring education.

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Same happened in Australia.
To many pilots trying to get hours drives wages down.
PNG is even a hard gig to get now

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https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Singapore-Airlines-Pilot-Salaries-E3379...

 

https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Salary/British-Airways-Pilot-Salaries-E3462_...

 

https://www.glassdoor.com.au/Salary/Qantas-Salaries-E3342.htm

 

All depends on who you work for... and, obviously, how good you are!

 

I've spoken to a few pilot trainers here in China, and they're basically scared of who's allowed to fly in this country (and also in other countries).  Especially given all international pilots NEED to have a good command of English (and, obviously, who aren't). They've told me that pilot school is just like any other school here.... everyone passes!

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