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Q: What has happened to ECC?

the SPAMMERs seem to have taken over, so i am not surprised that this site has gone down the tubes.

Is there zero Administration?

Even the Articles on the home page are trite and hackneyed, similar to many such essays i read in China.

the jobs seem to be the same shady opportunities that have the same low salaries and don't even offer a visa.

15,000 a month for a 'Senior Consultant' role in a Finance company????

 

This used to be a vibrant site and it is sad in its passing.

and i hope all my friends here have gone on to better things.

 

 

3 years 42 weeks ago in  General  - China

 
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If it weren't for the five people who check in regularly here, this site would stop getting it's advertising checks. So really they should be paying us. 

philbravery:

Wu mao per visit?

3 years 41 weeks ago
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I use adblock so they sure aren't getting any per-click revenue from me.

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'Jimmy-Two-Times' @ 'Goodfellas'  

 

Where can you see 'spammers'? ... for longer than the few hours? 

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I check in way less than I used to and when I do there's usually nothing new or interesting happening so I just lose interest in it until I think to check in again. I assume it's the same with other users.

 

The good old days of interesting debates, interesting personalities and online fights are long gone. Well, nothing is forever I suppose....

 

Cheers

 

 

philbravery:

Hmmm so it's a Fight you want huh ? Lol I doubt there is anyone left that could put up a decent debate . Everything is PC now. Anything controversial just hets deleted. Glad I was here when things were at it's peak . Did you lnow I met Sorrel on sex in china on a 30 day visa. Ahh good times ...lol

3 years 42 weeks ago
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@Phil

(sigh)

happy times laugh

(ha ha)

 

3 years 42 weeks ago
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Stiggs:

Yup Phil, it's a  sad state of affairs when even the trolls are too lame to bite back.

 

Come to think of it, even the trolls and fake identities seem to have moved on, I don't remember the last time I saw one here.

 

 

3 years 41 weeks ago
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We aren't worth their time hanging around a empty room . Although a couple of them were well known users that we haven't seen for awhile.

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Lol I think we sent a lot of them - which in reality was probably the same several people, they all seemed to have the same writing style - wimpering back to their momma's spare bedroom with their tail between their legs.

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I remmber too. But like teaching, and some other things, this sight is following too.

Didn't read about the Sex thingwinksmiley

philbravery:

the post as called " Sex in China on a 30 day visa "

Probably the only half decent post I ever did

3 years 41 weeks ago
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Stop salivating ... , Phil! 

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I will be packing up and leaving this summer, after teaching middle school to college, I just don't want my daughter exposed to excessive homework and a stressful childhood. I have regrets that once she gets to an American school, she will hear profanity, something she would not get exposed to here, but making her attend classes and homework like a sweatshop I think is the worse of two evils.

hi2u:

That's adorable that you think Chinese students don't use profanity

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I know they do, but not usually until middle school, in America it starts in pre k.

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sorry, double post, my daughter had an hour of homework last night in a pre k school, very pissed off about that.

icnif77:

Warning: 'HORROR!'

 

https://news.yahoo.com/man-beat-five-old-daughter-114817556.html

 

I just read the title ...

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If it weren't for the five people who check in regularly here, this site would stop getting it's advertising checks. So really they should be paying us. 

philbravery:

Wu mao per visit?

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I use adblock so they sure aren't getting any per-click revenue from me.

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previously i have challenged ECC to respond to any issues that posters have, but surprise surprise, tumbleweeds are in evidence.

 

Any half-way decent website would communicate with posters, but could it be that Chinese people have very little insight into keeping people engaged.

 

To be honest, without a serious make-over this site is dead - but then it has been on life-support for the last couple of years.

 

philbravery:

Silly foreigner....successful business in China is different from foreign success. There is something strange about the whole situation here. I've never lnown a business to be driven to destroy a thriving concept. Ecc was at the top of it's platform till about 6 years ago then the steady down hill began. The user mod thing was a failure..infact the best mod was the first guy they had in 08 ..09 . I do think it could be saved however it would take someone with fair dinkum resolve tp do it

3 years 41 weeks ago
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Stiggs:

I think the owners lost interest a long time ago and have been putting their (his?) energy into something else.

 

 

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@stiggs They were concentrating on collecting resumes for awhile...maybe they sold the inventory and are working on rhe next cash cow. Like selling our details to some other organizations

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Some of the reasons we don't hear from many of top users anymore could be that some of them are married but don't want their children in this education sytem so went back to their home country. Another reason could be they were denied the proper visa because they are over 60. Like there are not to many old people who want to work in Shaanxi. Or maybe they just found a better paying job and took advantage of their experience in China to get higher pay and better living conditions.

Stiggs:

A lot of regulars have gone home and just moved on but for whatever reason this site doesn't attract new users. That's probably the main problem, if you have a website you gotta have the new users signing up. As Sorrel said above, ECC have never been receptive to advice or constructive, helpful criticism and that's never a good idea when you're trying to sell something.

 

I haven't googled China jobs / forums / advice etc for a long time now but I'm wondering if ECC would pop up on the first page if I did. I'm guessing not. That's not helpful.

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I challenge whoever it is that is left in charge of the site to respond, or do you not have the English or the b***s for a direct answer.

 

Why has no-one done anything to revitilise this site over he years?

Why have sucessive Admins refuesed to engage with legitimate quesions the users have?

- is it that you are unable to due to lack of English ? (this would explain the proifieration of spammers)
 - is it becuase you are avoiding what you perceive as 'confrontation' with foreigners and their direct questions (a common failing amongst Chinese)

 - is it because you just don't care about this site at all?

 

Don't you worry, I have patience.

3 years 41 weeks ago
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In a recent phone call to Ecc. Ecc...Wei Caller...is that Echinacities ? Ecc ....let me check .....oh yes it is. Caller....can I speak to the person in charge of the Answers Forum ? Ecc....we have an Answers Forum? Caller....?????????

3 years 41 weeks ago
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icnif77:

Gim'me the phone no. I'll ask them in Türkçe. They'll think, am Uyghur ... 

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If you want to have more content I can always argue with icnif that Serbs are not so bad nation as media describes them.

majkoni:

I love you man, no homo

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Btw, I haven't been logged in for past 2+ years.

icnif77:

They have new software ... once, you want to cash out your pints, i.e. redeem, they deduct 4 points for every calendar day you weren't logged. I think. 

 Be careful! In the end, you might owe them few raincoasts and halı -s (carpets).

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Lol ...they harmonized the guys dating post ....was the most interesting question since this one was posted.
Another example of moronic decision making

Stiggs:

Yep, got rid of a fun post that was China related and another one about contract stuff that were both generating answers and left the post by the first question new user advertising weed and hard drugs there. 

 

Maybe those conversations took a turn for the worse when I was logged off or something but on the face of it that just makes no sense at all to me.

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there are employees active on this site.
i emailed both addresses and did manage to get a response, but as expected they completely ignored the questions i asked.

 

for fup's sake, how difficult is it to answer clear questions?

in China, very easy.

 

Dear ECC staff, by not aswering any of the questions posed, you show how little you understand the very people you want to attract to this site.

Is it any wonder that this site is now so rubbish?

philbravery:

Give it a couple more days after the 10th of May...you might get a response then

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Not really sure what are your questions!  Can you be more specific?

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philbravery:

Sorrel is asking why nobody from Ecc is replying to her emails

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sorrel:

and why no-one is answering the specific questions i have posed not only here, but as direct emails.

 

for example, why has the 'Answer of the day' not been updated for over a year?

 

Dear Admin.

please take a look at this post by an Admin, and other similar posts.

 

https://answers.echinacities.com/question/where-did-you-guys-go?&showid=308606#answer308606

 

(hint) if i can find such previous posts so easily, think of what you as an Admin can do?

 

 

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sorrel:

@Phil, 

i did receive answers to emails, but just the bland evasive answers that are standard, not to the specific questions or queries i posed.

In addition, after posting one email to ECC i was promptly SPAMMED by them.

these communications were not PM's but emails.

3 years 38 weeks ago
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adminanswer:

Noted, will work on your questions.  Thanks!

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icnif77:

IMHO, pints should be deducted from admin.'s account, so Boards negligence won't happened again!

 

OT: When is the next rain-coasts and carpets delivery, i.e redeem pints thingy? 

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Hi Admin, 
i thought a week is enough time to come up with some answers or a plan for this site.

anything you would like to share with us?

Any thoughts on how this site can be revitilised? 
Are you still going to allow all the spammers trying to get suckers to click on their business links with their bad English and poor attempts at linking their products to old threads posted years ago?

Does that mean you are going to allow a certain poster to recommece posting her self-absorbed verbal flatulance as a form of click bait?

Or, if i recall correctly, invite back a certain north-american basment occupant who had never been to China, but was an 'expert' on the country even though he had only 'chatted' online to 1 chinese 'woman' 
or will this site go another direction?

 

just asking.

 

adminanswer:

While we have limited resource here to moderate the forum we encourage users to report spammers to us through "Report Abuse" button on each post.  This is one of the most effective ways of forum moderation.  We will verify the posts and ban the spammers quickly when we are alerted with the "Report Abuse" messages.

 

- Admin

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ambivalentmace:

I sort of like the crazy posters not the spammers, the best thing in the world is give a nut a microphone so the whole world knows who they are, 2 billion of free left wing media gaves us trump, can't wait for my next free gift from the elites that know what is best for us. Farage and Trump for the nobel peace prize, what could go wrong, we already gave one to a nut who had 2 wars and instead of ending them added 5 more while wearing the peace medal.

 

I'm just blowed away that someone still thinks writing essays and papers for money is ok to market on this website, somebody was really sleeping through marketing memorization class, at least get a catchy name for the junk you sell, with some alliteraton, Excellent Essays, Perfect Papers.

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Looks like resources are limited to answer pm's to
So let's make it a public mail.
This is what i sent in reply to a mail i got some time ago in response to a post on this tread.

philbravery

May 23,2019

Hi George

 hope there was an increase in the population with my posts over the last couple of weeks

I do have a couple of sugestions that might help boost the Forums appeal .

firstly a registed user could submit  photos of there own easily and after being scrutined by a moderator then cold be posted

also a pole with a fixed question could be put up from Ecc to gauge users response and help Ecc focus attenton for beniit.

both these fore mentioned  features are on Face Book and should be cost effective to addopt.

Anyway

good Luck to you

Cheers

Phil

 

adminanswer:

Hello Phil,

 

Thank you for your suggestions.  Sorry for the late reply.

 

Your suggestions are interesting but to have the features developed on this Answers might be difficult for people at eChinacities.  Unlike the rest of eChinacities, the Answers was developed using a CMS called Drupal which most developers in China are unfamilar with.  To add features you suggested would require the programmers at eChinacities to understand the Drupal and modify the Answers coding with PHP programming language.  This is very hard part of our programmers.  We will discuss this internally anyway.

 

Best,

 

Admin

3 years 33 weeks ago
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philbravery:

I bet there ate at least 5 users on here that know the system inside out

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ambivalentmace:

So a westerner set up the programming and the computer gamers can't figure out how it works because they just don't care. Thanks for the update, maybe they will come up with a cheat version to copy where nobody has to learn anything to do it.

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https://www.1337x.am/torrent/1185652/Learning-Drupal-8-Training-Video-Tutorial/ Free videos to teach drupal, I guess I got lucky finding them in 2 minutes.

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https://www.1337x.am/torrent/3301717/Udemy-Drupal-Masterclass-Learn-Drupal-From-Scratch/ could not find a version of the above in Mandarin, good luck with that.

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philbravery:

Lmao not even goimg to try anymore...it is clear Ecc has no interest or intention of doing anything with this forum. I wonder how much their income is declining every month because people arnt coming here lile they were. In short you can't help someone who is in denial and to far up themselves to see whats real and what is not.

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Looks like typical Chinese way of doing business..they wouldn't have a clue about Customer service or what manners are.
The sooner the world reduces trading with China the better for everyone

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Admins silence is deafening

RandomGuy:

They will be quick to call you again and again of you open an employer account since they charge big money for them to post job ads, otherwise they don't care.

3 years 33 weeks ago
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ambivalentmace:

I would speculate that the essay spammer is a relative of the big boss or a brother or x roommate of the admin.

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icnif77:

'New' User Mod found a way  to make spammers stay silent for a longer time.

 

"However, whole matter is 'TS' and can't be revealed over to the public" he told moi.

PM ...

3 years 33 weeks ago
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Stiggs:

Is this how he's keeping the spammers quiet Icnif? If they spam the forum again then Admin will bring out the gimp?

 

 

Image result for pulp fiction gag ball

3 years 33 weeks ago
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ambivalentmace:

Stiggs, did you steal my toys, oh wait a minute, no, nevermind, mine are still here in the nightstand.  WHOOSH!!!, don't scare me like that.

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diverdude1:

'What' ain't no country I ever heard of. Do they speak English in What?

English Motherfucker!  Do they speak it?!

 

 

  haha,,,best line in a movie ever!   creepiest character in a movie ever that motorcycle cop,,,  in the basement scene,,,,   ugggghhhh,,,  creepy guy even to this day....

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@ Ambi Lol nah, I have my own set of toys...devil

 

Divedude Where is Zed anyway? Oh, that's right, Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead. Marcellus called up some hard, pipe hitting n***** and they went to work on him with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch. They got midieval on that hillbilly boy.

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Tech entrepreneurs are a funny breed to say the least

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Back to the top of the page as a reminder to Admin that the white monkeys arnt happy about the bananas

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Wow this post spent 5 days on the front page...traffic is getting slower

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I see admin started a new account to move posts along

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Only a half dozen regular posters here nowindecision

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And still no answers...lol

icnif77:

Stop bashing! 

3 years 21 weeks ago
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It's way past Bashing...that sound you hear is Flushing to dispose of the site like a dead smelly goldfish

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still here

justn busybroken heart

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