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Q: What's with all the useless employees in China?

I was reading this excellent thread by philbravery: http://answers.echinacities.com/question/china-you-should-not?showid=159...

 

Check out these gems:

"[...]watching in awe of utter disbelief that even though it takes three people to make one drink... It still takes nearly five minutes[...]" — DaveP84

 

"Go to a major store to pay for something. There are three girls at the cash register. One takes your money and hands it to the cashier, the cashier prints out your receipt and hands it to a third girl who opens a drawer, pulls out a chop and ink.  Stamps it, and puts it all away again (even though there are more people in line to pay). 

Then the cashier and the chop girl hand your change and receipt to the first girl who gives it to you." — GuilinRaf

 

I noticed this everywhere I went in every province I visited in China, except in the countryside. So many useless employees that are sitting there doing pretty much nothing important. Why do such jobs exist? Is it just to placate the masses and give them the illusion of importance so they won't rebel?

6 years 18 weeks ago in  Business & Jobs - China

 
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From a capitalist viewpoint, there are 3 people doing the job of 1 so 2 of the employees are useless. The company's priority is to make profits, not provide jobs.   From a socialist point of view, there are 3 jobs instead of just 1.  The company's main priority is to provide jobs, not make profit.  Don't forget where you are.

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I watch every day ...  off my balcony....  silly silly, silly things .....I am a construction guy and they are erecting 30 story apts. next to me......   I practically cry when I see what they do....then I think....  oh yah, these guys get paid f**k all .....  then I think.. time is money.....then I think, should do it right the first time....  then I think, THIS IS CHINA ....   jackhammering yesterdays or last weeks work is OK .... drives me nuts, so I go back inside and instead of finishing my morning coffee on the balcony..... I indulge in a nice cool beer at the flipping computer.

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I hear they have some rule that stipulates they have to have X number of employees per every Y square meters, hence all the useless employees.

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Companies in China receive massive tax breaks when they staff a "certain" level of employees...the savings far outweigh the labor costs.  Subsidized jobs...keeps everyone happy and employed and not protesting in the streets.

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The government is worried that high unemployment would cause social unrest and so I imagine they subsidize or reward businesses that hire a certain number of employees.

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I watched 4 people in Dairy Queen in Zhuzhou struggle to create my Blizzard:

 

One person to take my order, and to give the directions to someone else.

One person to take those directions and grab a few bits of chocolate for use in my Georgia Mudslide

One person to whip it up and give it to me...

...and one to stand around watching them.

 

One time they only had 2 people on shift, and one went off to do something else. I watched in AWE as one girl struggled to make the Blizzard by herself. She just looked around in confusion, and finally figured out how to do it. After 5 minutes, I got my Blizzard.

Thanks, Obama!

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It's all about job creation. In exchange for putting up with oppression the Chinese have been promised jobs. As soon as there's no jobs, the CCP knows it's in trouble. 

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While your choice of words is obviously harsh and cynical, what you are trying to say is true.

 

In the examples above, at least the girls at the cashier and those making the drinks were all in some kind of actions. Half of the time, they just surround one person doing the action and stare at what him/her is doing.

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They are there to make sure you don't steal everything in the store. 

You're welcome. 

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Productivity back home is crap. Last time I was waiting for a plane I watched a maintenance guy mop the floor. he sat down all the time I was there. Road crews, one guy digs, 10 guys lean on shovels.

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I understand that they need to create jobs for their enormous population, and I suppose that, with the vast chunk of the population having a low level of education at best, they do have to create a lot of blue collar work, needed or not.Still, I feel that most 'jobs' are run in such a way that minimizes productivity. They may as well be melting woks and nails in their backyards to kick start a steel-based economy, or something.

It's not just a blue-collar thing, either. Have you ever worked in an office with a Chinese company? I bet you have had meeting days, then. Whole days where you get shepherded in some room, so they can tick off having their precious weekly meeting from the schedule. And, what happens in these meetings? Usually, you just sit around staring at a wall for hours while someone reports the heck out of some inane thing that could have been communicated in a three line email.

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Supermarkets - to me - are the worst offenders here. I can't understand why on any occasion there are groups of assistants gathered around,chatting. I have given up counting... 16,18,24.. whatever in as little as 3 isles distance. But when you go to the check-outs there are empty tills - and consequently you are kept waiting !?!

 

Can you imagine being appointed as a new manager in one of these places... you would look at the sales figures..purchase figures..overheads... and labour costs !? ...

 

... but money is money,profits have to be made !

 

Is it me ? Or is there something I am not understanding !?!

 

 

 

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Use it to your advantage.

 

Three times in the last month I have received a free coffee from Breadtalk due to their incompetence and over staffing.

 

One woman takes my order than talks to another woman standing next to her. They then switch positions and attempt to work the coffee machine. More conversation ensues until a third staff member ( every time I might add ) comes to help. The three of them then wrestle with the machine and the milk. Eventually a random member of staff then hands me my coffee. At this point I thank them-they giggle- then I walk out the shop.

 

I think they just assume someone else took the money. Or maybe they just like giving me free coffee.

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My local supermarket is a prime example.

In every aisle there are three people, top, middle and end. Also in that bunch is at least one person leaning on a mop/brush grinning at me inanely then leaning over to see what I have bought.

The most interesting one I had was when seven, yes seven, employees crowded around me to give advice on which was the best kitchen cleaner to buy. Needless to say none of them agreed with each other and I just picked one at random and wandered off leaving them to it.

On another note, the marketing department in the office has swelled from two to sixteen in a few weeks. I still haven't seen them do anything.

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this is my favorite. they tear up a road/ street and repave it. then they leave before it dries, they do not barricade it or anything. and the stupid yokels drive/ walk and bike on the wet cement. (why would you walk on wet cement? you can clearly see that it is wet) 

so they come back a few weeks later and tear up the road street again. and do the same exact thing. people again walk , drive and bike over the wet cement. repeat the process once or twice more then finally (somebody has to actually tell them) to block entrance to the newly cemented area and have sb stand guard(sitting playing on their phone).

 

i know there are tax breaks but i think it goes deeper than that. this practice fosters ignorance, laziness, stupidity and incompetence.this makes people easier to control. 

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The training school i worked in had more employees than students at one point. 2 Foreign teachers, about 20 staff and 12 students. Needless to say, the boss was unable to pay the staff. After the foreign teachers contracts ended and we left, thankfully with our pay, the boss disappeared, not having paid the rest of his staff in 2 months.

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i dont understand any of this except to say keeping a billion people working is an impossible task,

i once got car insurance and each guy came out and checked the vin number in 8 different places, 8 different guys , then the ninth guy checked for the 8 other guys proper stamp on the document, then the 10th guy printed my invoice and the 11th guy took the money.

 

my favourite is the bus station, the drivers assistant takes the tickets and counts them, the driver counts them, the guard as you leave the station counts them and then an old man writes down the license plate and bus number and time on a sheet as the bus leaves, never mind the cameras everywhere , maybe they dont work or someone is paid to watch the watchers counting the tickets.

 

when the big farms started in thailand and modern agricultural machinery, most people left for the cities, when this happens in china, i hope im not around for the chaos.

 

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WHAT IS IT WITH USELESS FOREIGNERS ??????

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