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Q: Who are you rooting for in the upcoming American presidential elections?
Just curious, I know some prefer to keep their politics private, so 'none of your business' is an acceptable answer if such is the case. As for myself, I think this fella Bernie Sanders looks to be a genuine man of the people, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for him.
Bernie is a little far to the left for my tastes generally. But I agree with you the fact he seems honest means he's my guy this election. Cause when will I next have the chance to vote for an honest man?
He's old enough that I don't think he cares about getting sweet consulting gigs at GS once he's out of office, he's from vermont and vermont people are usually pretty cool and down to earth. For better or worse I believe Bernie is going to try new things and maybe try and clean house a little bit.
For all the hatred Hilary gets I think she'd just be more of the same. She wouldn't be a tragedy nor would she do anything to reverse the trends of income growth inequality.
As for the republicans I think Jeb! would probably be pretty much the same result as Hilary. Marco Rubio too...he'd be OK. Trump would probably be a train wreck trying to actually govern, though I understand why dumb, disenfranchised people like him. Ted Cruz seems a bit slow and a little too religious for my taste. I hope he doesn't win.
coineineagh:
Can't imagine *you* voting for Sanders (I was going to abbreviate with his initials, but I just realized how unfortunate they are). Surprising, I mean, given your opinions about entitled attitudes. I guess you value honesty highly, which I respect. I even agree with you that his leftism seems a bit out of touch; I hope he will balance it with pragmatism when he's in office. If you're in China, make sure to contact your embassy about voting!
mArtiAn:
I agree on all parts, particularly on Trump. If that bloke gets in I'm going to move to America, just so I can leave America.
WooMow:
Well put, I feel almost exactly the same. I think I'll vote for Bernie because, even though he's pretty far left, the senate will reign him in a bit. Unfortunately, he's a socialist running for the American presidency, so he won't win :(
Hilary will probably be fine.
expatlife26:
Yeah...the system is so clearly broken at this point that anybody who will try and clean house a little bit I think will be like a B12 shot for the country.
So even if I don't agree with 100% of hisl kinda thinking...at least he's something different.
And like I keep saying he seems honest and that's just so shocking. Give me somebody who will make a good faith effort to fix societal problems over another empty suit who will stay the course any day of the week.
Especially because I live abroad and can duck out of the consequences if it all goes wrong :-)
Monica Lewinsky looks good ... 
You can get arthritis in hand-s, if fingers are crossed for too long....When is the final selection?
Bernie is a little far to the left for my tastes generally. But I agree with you the fact he seems honest means he's my guy this election. Cause when will I next have the chance to vote for an honest man?
He's old enough that I don't think he cares about getting sweet consulting gigs at GS once he's out of office, he's from vermont and vermont people are usually pretty cool and down to earth. For better or worse I believe Bernie is going to try new things and maybe try and clean house a little bit.
For all the hatred Hilary gets I think she'd just be more of the same. She wouldn't be a tragedy nor would she do anything to reverse the trends of income growth inequality.
As for the republicans I think Jeb! would probably be pretty much the same result as Hilary. Marco Rubio too...he'd be OK. Trump would probably be a train wreck trying to actually govern, though I understand why dumb, disenfranchised people like him. Ted Cruz seems a bit slow and a little too religious for my taste. I hope he doesn't win.
coineineagh:
Can't imagine *you* voting for Sanders (I was going to abbreviate with his initials, but I just realized how unfortunate they are). Surprising, I mean, given your opinions about entitled attitudes. I guess you value honesty highly, which I respect. I even agree with you that his leftism seems a bit out of touch; I hope he will balance it with pragmatism when he's in office. If you're in China, make sure to contact your embassy about voting!
mArtiAn:
I agree on all parts, particularly on Trump. If that bloke gets in I'm going to move to America, just so I can leave America.
WooMow:
Well put, I feel almost exactly the same. I think I'll vote for Bernie because, even though he's pretty far left, the senate will reign him in a bit. Unfortunately, he's a socialist running for the American presidency, so he won't win :(
Hilary will probably be fine.
expatlife26:
Yeah...the system is so clearly broken at this point that anybody who will try and clean house a little bit I think will be like a B12 shot for the country.
So even if I don't agree with 100% of hisl kinda thinking...at least he's something different.
And like I keep saying he seems honest and that's just so shocking. Give me somebody who will make a good faith effort to fix societal problems over another empty suit who will stay the course any day of the week.
Especially because I live abroad and can duck out of the consequences if it all goes wrong :-)
I am not American and I have no vote..... but I do follow it quite a bit.
Today, and it changes daily, I would be voting Republican. Sanders and Clinton issues better get resolved soon.
now which Republican??? interesting times!!!
Trump for me. I'm conservative (fiscally more than socially) and always have been. But more like a NY conservative. I don't really care what other people do as long as it's not bothering anybody else.
*a little tidbit for our readers- I have been inside Trump Tower on 5th Avenue. I've also stood on the Observation Deck on top of WTC Tower 2. Top of the Empire State Building too! back in the days when you could actually get up to the top (the round part). too long ago for most of u here to have experienced probably. Inside Statue of Liberty's head too, even though that's nothing, I had a friend old enough to have actually gone up in the Torch!
Abt, anyone but Trump. I'm still undecided but will get a chance to vote in an early primary state. I like Rand Paul on the right and Sanders on the left. But I might just go for whomever has the best chance of beating Trump.
Anyone but the Saturday Morning Cartoon Super-Villian that is Donald Trump. I have this vision of him getting elected, then Ashton Kutcher jumping out from behind a bush or something.
"Hey American public, you just got Punk'd!"
I am voting for Donald Trump. I am completely insane.
I'm not American so am only sort of following this, but every time I see the Trump in the news he seems to be saying something ridiculous.
As someone who doesn't follow politics and knows jack shite about it I know I shouldn't really be offering any opinion but.... it seems to me that Trump is a fecking idiot and can't possibly do anything good for America. Or the world.
Even if he has some good policies and ideas.. I haven't read much about it but it doesn't seem to like he does... he pisses everyone off and certainly isn't much of a diplomat which seems like a big part of the job.
It's either going to be Trump, or just more of the same thing.
I don't think Trump is genuinely as stupid as what people say. He's just playing the only card he's ever had to get anywhere, which is reducing any complex issue to simple punchlines and get the support of idiots. Literally the only shot he had and so far he's doing great at it, like it or not.
Trump or sanders. Making me friendless. I believe both parties have lost their mandate.
number of posts without the name Trump: 4 so far.
mArtiAn:
Genuinely frightening, isn't it? Maybe next time around they'll put an actual orangutan up for election.
expatlife26:
Nah I really like Bernie. Maybe i'm being naive but he comes across as not being bought.
Most politicians in the US are motivated by two things 1. 7-figure 'consulting' jobs at huge companies once they leave office. 2. narcissistic desire to be in power and I don't think he is.
I will totally vote for him by absentee ballot if I think my vote will count. I'm not being cynical or anything but in the US the president is decided by how districts vote and both the districts I could register to vote in are solidly democrat. Only voters in swing districts actually decide the election. That's how sometimes a candidate can win the most total votes and still lose overall. Kinda shitty system.
So it would be a waste of my time to deal with the consulate staff. They don't even look at the mail-in ballots unless it's really close like in 2000 down in florida.
But if that changes somehow and my potential districts become contested yeah i'll turn out for bernie
coineineagh:
I like Bernie because he seems to be an INTJ like myself. Compliments and admiration can barely get a smile off of him; he sticks to the facts and numbers as he knows them. He strikes me as a pillar of objectivity standing stable among a whirlwind of emotional opinion-forming. People have their heads screwed on tighter after just listening to him. The banks will have trouble buying him; they need to convince him to do what they want with objectivity, not money.
For the people who like Trump, I do think that Trump would at the very least be a shock to the system. And there is totally value in that.
When I say I think trump will be a train wreck I don't mean because he says crazy things, I just think he's too much of a shark. Which is good in business, but I think he's too opportunistic and competitive to be a solid president. In the end nothing would get done because I see him being too adversarial with people he would need to work with.
On the other hand I get his appeal. And I wish that the people who are supposed to be super progressive and undestanding of other viewpoints could take their f-ing blinders off and see how their self righteous BS has contributed to the rise of this guy they hate so much. Trump is the first guy in my lifetime to really speak out directly against the "PC" narrative. The first guy to openly tell conservative white men (who may well be jerks but don't necessarily hurt anyone) that No, you guys aren't the biggest problem just because homosexuality creeps you out...or because you're afraid of Mexicans. And there DOES need to be a common sense reckoning of the excesses of political correctness and privilege discussion etc. Some poor white bastard child working at a gas station in Oklahoma might be less likely to get shot by a cop than his black counterpart, but by no means does he consider himself or feel in any way "privileged". That kinda people who really lose out from globalization and open immigration. And trump hits with those people and those people have every right to vote in their best interests. God knows the people who are actually privileged do.
Any Dan Carlin (really good political podcast...non partisan and super rational) fans here will know he's been saying this has been the most interesting primary in a while. Both sides have a crazy outsider candidate making everybody nervous.
The people starting loosing their right of representation when the courts said that Corporations are people too. This passed without fanfare. Then they changed how campaign funds could be donated to campaigns. Now the corporations have all the bigbucks and lobbyists in place to fund the people who they can control with their money. The people have had the wool pulled over their eyes. Bernie is the only one i see who has a chance to change that. Sorry big bucks, feel the Bern yet?
im not sure: i think either cartman or pedro.
expatlife26:
Cartman is a consummate politician. He's totally the type who becomes president.
I like Bernie Sanders in general, but for me the problem is that he alone wouldn't be able to do very much on the issue that he's running on, wealth inequality. To really change anything there we would need a new political/economic consensus in the US to replace the market consensus that we've operated under since the early 1980s. One candidate alone isn't really enough to get us there for the simple fact that congress needs to actually pass items on the President's legislative agenda and that federal system necessitates people at the state and local level institute whatever policy changes the President can get congress to enact. Right now, the Republican party controls both houses of congress, most of the state governorships and most state legislatures. If the Democrats want to institute a new economic consensus that makes a priority of economic equality its going to mean winning a lot of those down ticket races, and frankly that would take years. Bernie's campaign, or any insurgent campaign, simply isn't build to do that. Hilary's campaign is probably better off there. She fund raises better than Bernie does, and has a better organized campaign with more operatives on the ground in state's she needs to win. Those things would seem to indicate longer coat-tails in the general election. But that's just it. Success for Hilary as a President is probably going to need to be defined by some tweak to public policy, like over paid leave for new parents or a national pre-K system for dual income families, and whether or not she can get people down ticket elected. It sucks, and its probably going to at least look like more of the same, but creating a new consensus is going to take a lot of time.
I secretly want Donald Trump to win because it would make the world so much more interesting. Following Trump in the media is like looking at a dog that has three legs - it's hideous and sickening to observe but you simply can't look away.
Bernie Sanders would be great but he's never gonna beat Hillary in the primaries. She has the Clinton fund gathering machine behind her and Bernie only has the unions.
Alas Trump will never win and my news will not be interesting. A Trump/Palin ticket would truly be a monster to behold.
cant vote for hillary she is a liar vant vote for bernie he will spend eveyones money till he ran out of other peoples money which would be in 3 months
dokken:
You ask who your average republican voter is? I give you bat 22.
dokken your absolutly correct i dont believe in socialism at some point u run out if other peoples money lije europe is finding out today i am a capitolist in america the democrates run the poorest and most violent cities detriot oakland stocton ete they keep the people down making them dependant on them instead of offering better education demcrates equals dependancy on goverment instead of getting the people off there ass and be productive instead of a strain on society
dokken your absolutly correct i dont believe in socialism at some point u run out if other peoples money lije europe is finding out today i am a capitolist in america the democrates run the poorest and most violent cities detriot oakland stocton ete they keep the people down making them dependant on them instead of offering better education demcrates equals dependancy on goverment instead of getting the people off there ass and be productive instead of a strain on society
You could vote for the same old same old or you could vote for Trump who might just turn us around. 47% of Americas elected officials are lawyers. Some smarter countries do not allow lawyers to run for public office. Can you imagine why? The Obama dictatorship will come to an end soon, but not soon enough.
When I saw the question on here, without reading the comments, I thought that this was going to be a loaded question. But, I enjoyed reading the comments from everyone. For me, I an hoping for a Trump/Sanders ticket to vote for.
