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I have heard that there is a 14 day quarantine in China upon arrival. If i get a Job in China, as a English teacher, where do i stay for 14 days, who pays for it and how do i go about geting meals? ( KFC etc.)
Regards, Ivan.
3 years 42 weeks ago in Business & Jobs - China
As I heard, every new arrival to China must go into designated hotel and quarantine her/himself on their own expense.
That will be an expense larger than the return flight ticket to China ...
Once, you have a job, you should ask your employer/Residence permit sponsor about that and they should clearly tell you about required (or no) quarantine at the arrival to China.
I guess, required seclusion place will be at the arrival airport in China.
Cost for the stay in seclusion will be yours .. unless you make your employer include the cost of quarantine into the Contract (before you sign it!) same as a return flight ticket refund.
Douglas.H.Brown:
I went through quarentine when my family and I returned to China in March. Three of us, the bill came to a little over 6000 RMB. That included everything
we flew in to Pudong Airport. We were bussed to a quarantine hotel based on what province we live inicnif77:
That doesn't look too expensive. I thought expense for 14-days incarnation would be larger since hotel stay is determined by Gov.
But, still 2000-3000 Rmb per person is an extra expense, so one should ask Z visa sponsor about refund.
Douglas.H.Brown:
200 RMB/Day for the government chosen room plus 80 RMB/day for the meals. This was the price in Nanjing
As I heard, every new arrival to China must go into designated hotel and quarantine her/himself on their own expense.
That will be an expense larger than the return flight ticket to China ...
Once, you have a job, you should ask your employer/Residence permit sponsor about that and they should clearly tell you about required (or no) quarantine at the arrival to China.
I guess, required seclusion place will be at the arrival airport in China.
Cost for the stay in seclusion will be yours .. unless you make your employer include the cost of quarantine into the Contract (before you sign it!) same as a return flight ticket refund.
Douglas.H.Brown:
I went through quarentine when my family and I returned to China in March. Three of us, the bill came to a little over 6000 RMB. That included everything
we flew in to Pudong Airport. We were bussed to a quarantine hotel based on what province we live inicnif77:
That doesn't look too expensive. I thought expense for 14-days incarnation would be larger since hotel stay is determined by Gov.
But, still 2000-3000 Rmb per person is an extra expense, so one should ask Z visa sponsor about refund.
Douglas.H.Brown:
200 RMB/Day for the government chosen room plus 80 RMB/day for the meals. This was the price in Nanjing
At the moment only Chinese are allowed back into China and they pay for the quarantine themselves. If they have enough in their social insurance then that pays for it. Meals can be ordered & you pay.
the small number of foreigners allowed back in have needed a Covid in the days before the flight. They then had two days of quarantine and if they passed a 2nd Covid year were let out. They paid.
as an English teacher do not expect to be let into China before September or October. They're currently only slowly opting up for company critical workers from come countries.
Sandnose:
Normal people are entering in small numbers. The borders are not really closed. I personally know a teacher who entered late last month and is doing the 14 day hotel stay at his expense. Also nasal swabs and blood tests at his expense.
You can enter but it is a troublesome effort to book a rare flight at a ridiculous price, then 2 weeks in an ordinary hotel at a high price, then when half of the time on your z visa is gone, trying to get the school to act promptly is difficult.
@icnif77: good point, i will include 'quarantine expense on their account', as one of my terms
@Hotwater: since i am both, Australian and Serbian Citizen, i may as well enter China from Serbia.
http://rs.chineseembassy.org/srp/lsyw/tz/t1785624.htm
One test and 14 days in quarantine. No mention of closed borders,
Thank you both for helping.
Regards, Ivan.
icnif77:
'include' is not the right word!
You can negotiate with your employer to include cost for quarantine into the contract 'cause standard contracts in China most likely don't have that stipulation written.
Now, as I am familiar with Chinese employers, their answer will be most likely 'no', unless they need you fast.
You could tell them you are broke and you need return ticket flight in advance ... and then move slowly to the quarantine cost.
I repeat:
"You must negotiate that with employer and when it's all written in the contract, you sign it."
Never trust to the oral promises from the Chinese employers!
Departure city/state doesn't matter. All new arrivals to the country must go into 14-days quarantine.
I didn't travel much in the last 6-months, but I guess everywhere around the world the same rule (quarantine) applies for the new arrivals.
Good luck!
Hotwater, you have some good points. I like You
I am glad i placed the question on this forum.
I'll definitely ask for a return ticket in advance. That should balance out my unexpected expense relating quarantine.
Btw, i have applied for approx 10 positions within a week, and so far, I had no answers.
Sorry for asking, is that normal?
Could it be my age? I am 54 yo.
Best Regards.
icnif77:
That's classic in China ...
Never mind, if no replies.
Keep sending you CV until you get reply and invitation for an interview. Even after that, you keep applying/sending your CV.
You have to abandon western style of looking for a job, as apply at one or few Schools ...
You are good to go in China until you pass 60 years of age.
Ask for both ... start with return flight in advance and end with refund for the 2-weeks incarnation at the arrival port. You must negotiate with Chinese all the time. Good luck!
Thank You icnif77 for encouraging me It means a lot.
I am afraid i'll loose a track if i apply for many jobs.
I think, i'll take it easy during June, and, if nothing happends, i will hit them hard in July
On one job offer that I liked, over 1600 teachers applied. On another job offer, they obligated them selves to correspond within 72 working hours. However, i didn't like that one
Some offers i don't really understand, they probably used Google Translator.
God help us all
Regards, Ivan,
icnif77:
I don't think, 1600 foreign English teachers even reside in China at the moment. That data isn't correct. How do you even know no. of teachers applied at certain job advert?
Never mind 'loose track' ! ... Apply everywhere and wait for the replies, which will not be too many, as you said.
Chinese won't reply, if they figure it out they can't secure legal Z visa or for whatever other reason.
Once, you have reply and invitation for an interview, you can ask them about job details again. Then, have a day or two rest and get back to the best offer ... (with signed contract).
In China, one must have an interview with several positions in the same time and then accept, i.e. sign Contract with the best one.
You can expect, employers will change their mind even after they agreed to employ you.
When you get contract offer and you return signed copy, you have a job!
You cannot change your mind after you returned signed contract! But, before that everything are oral promises and what not, which I already told you doesn't count!
Non-native English teacher's advice with LT working experience in China.
sorrel:
Don't be afraid to ask about ALL aspects of work conditions and responibilites (and make sure they are included (clearly) in the contract.
an employer who fudges, refuses to answer a reasonable question or ignores any of your concerns should be treated with caution.
remember, you are also interviewing THEM.
good luck
icnif77:
@Sorrel: That certainly (the questioning) takes a lot of experience at applying for jobs in China, but yeah, you are interviewing them.
Timing of the 'signing the contract' to the 'entering China with Z visa':
That process isn't similar to walk-ins and applying/conducting demo classes at training mills ... Once you sign the contract, employer will apply for your Working permit at Chinese gov. That will take roughly 30-days or even longer.
Employer will email you Working permit with which you can apply for Z (Working visa) at Chinese embassy in your state.
As a first time applicant for Z, you will be required to complete Medical exam ... Base of the ME is ''you can't carry any infectious diseases ... blood and things''.
All that will take another 3-weeks and with Z visa stamp processing at the Embassy, you can add another 30-days.
So, it will take some 2-months after you signed contract to enter China.