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Q: 4000rm/M Qingdao public college looking for Oral english teacher. Could it be any better?
The employer pretends to get native English teachers with this crap. Could the employer be any more miserable than that? Look at the offer and you will see how outrageous is. If a Native English person is to be paid this little, how less would be a non native one?
Seriously, I see these kind of offers sometimes and I try to understand on what planet the employer is living. I know he lives in China, but no matter how alien the country is, some look to be already....I don't know!
Here is what he offers:
Responsibilities:
Qingdao public college is looking for 1 Oral English teachers for the new semester, working hours are less than 16 hours per week.
Wage:
1)basic salary 4000rmb monthly
2) round-trip airfare 10000rmb
3）free insurance
4）Work visa support
5)Winter holiday full paid
6)2200rmb traveling allowance
7)Free apartment well-furnished
Qualifications:
*Native English speakers from the US,UK,Canada, Australia, and New Zealand
*Hold a Bachelor's degree or above
*with TEFL/TESOL certificate preferred
*Having 2 years teaching experience or above
* Not older than 58 years old
*In good health
Documents need to submit:
*Resume
*Copy of degree
*Copy of Passport
*General photo
*Recommendation letter from your previous employer
9 years 37 weeks ago in Teaching & Learning - China
The only way it could be worth it is if they can get you a visa, you have a lot of free time to do privates, and the school is OK with you doing privates.
That's usual Chinese contract with manipulated (low) salary. Some contracts offer 1000 Rmb higher salary, but don't pay salary in recess as above, and only 5000 Rmb flight ticket refund. Chinese can negotiate to death.
I came to the conclusion (LTA), Chinese Schools require Native English Teacher, because English level of Chinese teachers at School is so low, they can judge your English just by Native English passport.
I saw article about 300 million Chinese English students by 2018/20, divided by 500 students on average per FT per year = 600 000 FT.
500 students in Public Schools, and in Training Centres that number per FT is much lower, so number of FT openings for China is (probably) much higher.
Don't go too deep in lousy Contracts. Skip it, and find better one.
I started in China in 2009 with 5000 Rmb, and F visa, and today I only look at Contracts with double salary, RPermit and perks as Non-native.
All - in- all; I think it looks pretty fair but one the low side. My reasons: Airfare; well furnished apartment; Paid winter vacation; teaching in a college (can't get better students than that). Questions: Is the apartment in a newer high rise? Is the travel allowance paid each month? Usually there are no office hours,but I would ask. If they will pay for the work visa and the medical I would apply for this job. Make sure there is nothing in the contract to prevent you from taking private work. I think you are correct; A non-white person probably would get less. Maybe that is the targeted esl teacher.
You get what you are willing to accept. It's incredibly easy to get a crappy job in a crappy university for 5000/month with free room (don't expect a fully furnished real apartment).
If you want better, let's say 10000 or 15000/month that is not in a shitty training center teaching 40 hours/week but in a decent school with good staff and students, then you will need to keep looking because these offers are not as common as the crappy ones.
As long as people will be willing to accept crappy jobs, they will keep popping all over the internet, submerging good offers.
This is a stupid offer. 4000RMB=$666. And you need to pay for your own visa and medical. Free insurance? It's required by law that they pay. After tax, you'd get 3800RMB. You could easily triple that anywhere. I teach in a university and I get more than triple what they offer. Yes, I teach 25 hours a week, but that means I don't have to work my butt off getting additional work outside. And I am non native. If I need more money, I simply take up lessons on weekends in the uni teaching business English to adults.
JacobJohn:
I am glad to see you've made it to such high salary and teaching position. Congratulations especially because you are a non native one. I've posted the add just to make a point about how greedy employers mistake the value of a native teacher and how that would affect down the chain the non native ones. I still wonder what was in his mind when he set this price. What native would apply for this wage, anyway?
louischuahm:
Our local teachers get 6500RMB. Why would a native want to work for 4000RMB? What was he thinking when he posted that ad? Nut case. Anyway, forget teaching English. Gaokao now has less emphasis on English. Go for subject teaching. Better pay and respect.
hunny797:
you say you are not native..
who cares whether you are or you are not..
Hell no..you dont need to be a native to be a teacher...
you have to LOOK like a native....
looks matter here more than the passport..don't you agree?
louischuahm:
Hunny@ No, I'm not native and I don't even look like one. I'm Chinese. My first language is English, born into an English speaking family. However, that didn't stop me from selecting the job I wanted. I had 3 offers, Jiujiang, Handan and Chongqing. I picked Chongqing after I checked it out. No regrets at all. Will probably stay here for a while.
When schools advertise for natives, they usually want people from the big 5, but they will cut corners and deliver a Caucasian since parents don't understand English anyway. So who's to tell if they are natives or not? End of the day, for us it's important to get what we want and what the parents perceive they are getting. Nevertheless, I will not go for a job that pays 4000RBM. I'll be insulting myself.
Qingdao has very low standards and is more corrupt than other cities. So many schools hire illegal teachers and offer extremely low salaries and/or shitty conditions to legal teachers.
Example N.O. offered me 5000 monthly to work there legally but 150rmb per hour (more than double) to work part time. The recent social security insurance law had 1 purpose, make it extremely expensive for schools to hire foreigners. There was a recent article/ photo slideshow about the future of China and how white foreigners will be migrant workers in China. That tells you their goal in a way, they want the English school industry to be filled by illegals in order to make foreigners subservient to Chinese.
I am in Qingdao and this pay sucks...
I get 6k/m and all i have to do is sit and use echinacities, faceboook, twitter etc
P.S I am not a native and I am not a teacher
JacobJohn:
You're right, this pay it sucks and I cannot understand how would anyone live with this amount anywhere in China, far less in Qingdao.
the attitude in qingdao is we have a larger supply of foreigners because of the ocean view and they want to be here, so we can get away with paying them less and the suckers will take it. always been this way.
