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Q: After-effects of the Cultural Revolution. What are your students like?

 

I am doing some simple arithmetics here.

 

The ten years Cultural Revolution of china (1965-75) produces a whole country of mass murderers and psychos, adept at verbal and physical violence, the purpose is to torture and kill. (鬥)  Just the death toll (ie crippled and maimed for life excluded) is between 2-7 million (literally too many to count accurately I suppose), averaging 200,000-700,000 a year.  

 

All schools stopped for ten years. For someone ranging in between 7 to 27 at 1965, these people received no school education. 

 

2017 is 52 years from 1965. For someone aged 7 then, s/he is 59 years old today.  His/her children are around 33 years old (using 26 years old as marrying and having kids age).  

 

This 33+ age group are mostly married with kids, aging 7+, meaning there is a great chance they are your students.

 

Can you share your experience and observations on what their behaviors, mentalities and whatever you notice are like?

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One thing I can say about the CR is it sure gave a vent for human true nature to show itself. I believe they are (were) just sadistic mofo's who used that maoist instruction as an excuse to be one mean SOB.   I have some photos from back then, but internet here bites, and I'm sick of photobucket.

But wow, the way they were so cruel, harsh, vicious to one another blows my mind.  Tying those old people up and making them kneel for hours while smacking them around, cruel creatures hominids are.   Just like the thugs in ISIL. ,, they could give two hoots about that 'philosophy', they just hide behind it to loot, murder, and rape.

 

So, how does CR reflect in todays generation?  well, I guess u see that in the way the students strike one another.  Very fiercely.  Trips me out when I see that!   Oh well,,  also the treatment of animals here.  wicked.   I'm a bad guy too, I know that, but I'm the kind of weirdo who will pick the worm up off the sidewalk and drop it in the bushes.   Too many times here I have seen kids crush insects for no good reason.  Disregard for life it seems to me. Mentality handed down for 1000's of years it seems....

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The degree of cruelty, vileness, hostility is definitely caused and an after-effect of CR. Nowhere in Asia are Chinese (ie traditional, normal Chinese) like this, all ages. I would say this goes true, en masse speaking, of all Chinese in history, and present overseas Chinese. Dalu rens are the garbage among the Chinese race, a direct result of CR.

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After you. 

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I am not teaching, please go ahead.

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I've noticed a trend to let baby teeth rot out of their mouths. So, meth-mouth without the drugs. I've seen the same characteristics in some "men" as well as some kids who have grown adult teeth. But, one cannot address the reasons for this so I'm unsure if this is related to your question

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Lack of hygiene knowledge is a direct result of lack of school education, so yes, it is extremely likely an after-effect of the cultural revolution. A great majority of kids are being brought up by their grandparents, those psychotic da-mas. 

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One thing I can say about the CR is it sure gave a vent for human true nature to show itself. I believe they are (were) just sadistic mofo's who used that maoist instruction as an excuse to be one mean SOB.   I have some photos from back then, but internet here bites, and I'm sick of photobucket.

But wow, the way they were so cruel, harsh, vicious to one another blows my mind.  Tying those old people up and making them kneel for hours while smacking them around, cruel creatures hominids are.   Just like the thugs in ISIL. ,, they could give two hoots about that 'philosophy', they just hide behind it to loot, murder, and rape.

 

So, how does CR reflect in todays generation?  well, I guess u see that in the way the students strike one another.  Very fiercely.  Trips me out when I see that!   Oh well,,  also the treatment of animals here.  wicked.   I'm a bad guy too, I know that, but I'm the kind of weirdo who will pick the worm up off the sidewalk and drop it in the bushes.   Too many times here I have seen kids crush insects for no good reason.  Disregard for life it seems to me. Mentality handed down for 1000's of years it seems....

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The degree of cruelty, vileness, hostility is definitely caused and an after-effect of CR. Nowhere in Asia are Chinese (ie traditional, normal Chinese) like this, all ages. I would say this goes true, en masse speaking, of all Chinese in history, and present overseas Chinese. Dalu rens are the garbage among the Chinese race, a direct result of CR.

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99% i would class as zombies - faces in phones 

there is very little curiosity beyond the superficial - 'where are you from (they always assume the US)' for example.

 

the 1% are curious and show that they read more than just their phones.

it will take a long time for the influence of the CR to lose its vice like grip on education and manners 

 

http://www.sixthtone.com/news/1001067/why-china-is-overrun-with-screaming%2C-crying-bear-kids

earthizen:

"why can’t China have special carriages for these bear kids and their parents?”

 

1.  of their number, the special cariages have to be the length of the great wall of china

2.  and, not enough mental asylums


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Repeating the same calculations for someone aged 17 and up in 1965, the exact murderers, the Red Guards, they would be 69+ today and their grandchildren 17+.

 

Please also share your experiences and observations of your students if you are teaching at a university.

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My MIL was a red book crusader at that time.

I am sure something happened in her life back then. She wont talk about it. But there is a hometown family rift that cant be explained.

My MIL is as red as red can be. She finished her working career as a one child enforcement officer. Her cousins retired as minor officials in local government.

As a one child officer, did she drag women to forced abortions? Yup. Totally last resort. But altough a product of that period, and a member of the red guards, she saw the wrong, and ended up as a trusted advisor to help pregnant women to keep their babies.

Fast forward to today. She is retired, but still has to attend party education meetings.

Her superstition from her youth is stronger for her than party doctrine. Her sense of doing good is stronger than party doctrine.

Her superstitions are a danger to my child. The stupid stuff we all know about. I think she knows it too.

The CR was bad. But thinking about it, I am thankfull my MIL had her mind changed about throwing my daughther down a well because the Gods would be offended.

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Ahhhh.......a psycho Red Guard who refused to talk about what she did in the CR.  You are right, something happened 100%.

 

Forced abortions is highly likely, the one-child policy comes 4 years after the CR,  in 1979.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy

 

She has more blood on her hands other than forced abortions. It is almost a certainty she tortured and killed extensively, young and old, and crippled too many to count during the 10 years CR.

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Yeah. I can imagine her beating someone to death with her red book in the 60s. I really can.

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That depends on her age during the CR. Don't underestimate what a few dozens of 15 years old can do with 15 knives or sticks to one person! Remember the pickpocket video I posted during the national holidays. They come in swams. That is their style.

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She was a teen. Her dad, who died a few years ago at the grand age of 96 a few years back was in the wrong side in 49. He had issues during the CR. No doubt persected by his own kids. Her mum is still on the go. So much history is being lost. The memories should be recorded. To stop it happening again.

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At the same time as the CR was going on in China, Rosa Parks refused to give up her bus seat.

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'Others had taken similar steps, including Bayard Rustin in 1942, Irene Morgan in 1946, Lillie Mae Bradford in 1951, Sarah Louise Keys in 1952, and the members of the ultimately successful Browder v. Gayle 1956 lawsuit (Claudette Colvin, Aurelia Browder, Susie McDonald, and Mary Louise Smith) who were arrested in Montgomery for not giving up their bus seats months before Parks.'

 

OMG.  Do I see the word lawsuit in the above?  Don't recall anything about laws, court, lawsuits ever showing up in that little red book the Red Guards recite 7/24.  How uncivilised these Yankees were/are. They actually have laws and courts half a century ago.  How inefficient and bricks wasting these laowai barbarians are.  Bricks are for hitting people on the heads or building houses to live in, not building courts!!! Stupid laowais!!!

 


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You're comparing the deaths of 100s of thousands maybe millions which was done purposefully to segregation? You really are pathetic in your foolish attempts to excuse China

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Reward for total obedience.

Thats what happened in the CR. The people were peasants, They were rewarded for blind obedience to something they did not understand.

The horror of that time should not be repeated.

The Taliban, for example, want to stop education. They shot a school girl in the head.

As Blondie said in another thread, stupidification of the masses is an incredibly strong social tool.

Mao had a peasatry to command. His mass murder was easy. He already had stupid masses in the palm of his hand. It was not their fault.

Today, I watched Sarah Saunders, spokesperson for Trump, telling blatent lies. Its comical Ali again. The Whitehouse is a farce of lies, a corrupt swamp of rich elites telling the world that they are not elite. They are smart ppl. Harvard etc.

In my opinion, the Chinese peasants of the CR should be forgiven. They knew no different.

In my opinion, the educated lying sicophantic bastards in the Whitehouse are 100 x worse than the peasants of the CR. They know what they are doing. They tell lies. Openly.

A chinese red book weilding peasant can be shown, taught, educated, the error of their ways.

A lying harvard educated millionare or billionaire cabinet member of Trumps Government cant be educated to know the wrongs of their ways.

The CR was bad. What is happening now is potentially worse.

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"Reward for total obedience. Thats what happened in the CR. The people were peasants, They were rewarded for blind obedience to something they did not understand."

 

They were rewarded by grabbing the landlords' land after killing them.  Oh, they understood perfectly.  Even a 4 years old kid grabbing his brother's toys got that. They were sadistic when they tortured their landlords before killing them.  

 

These heinous murderers, rapists, could not be forgiven.  They are living because china is a thieves and mass murderers den, run by thieves and mass murderers, that's all.

 

The Harvard leftards (not all Harvard folks are, but enough) are equally evil.  These hypocrites pretend to be sheep to gain whatever they want, votes if they are politicians, money if they are in businesses. Both votes and money when they do both.

 

Deceitful Commies and Laowai Leftards (Harvard, Cambridge, they exist in many western developed countries) are one and the same.  

 

The difference is in quantity, china is filled with commies and western countries they are still in the minority, and is kept in check because you have an opposition party, and most critical of all, a triparte administration. Independence of the Justice system which china has none.  

 

Ask Liu Xioa Bo's surviving widow which country she thinks or system is better.

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First set of students were great, that was over 10 years ago. This generation are brain dead, the children of the idiot generation and raised neglected glued to their smartphones. But it could be this shitty city. After this year I'm going back to a big city.

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