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Q: Any ideas when the internet restrictions will end?

It is going from being an annoyance to a real problem. I use my Gmail for everything. It was used to book my fight, contacts with friends and business and I have forgotten my password for my skype account which now needs money. But I can’t change the password unless I can get to my email. Is this really how the second largest economy in the world behaves? I am praying that once the 25th anniversary is passed we can get back to normal. The weird thing is I can open all kinds of foreign articles about the event, so how are they restricting information by shutting down my email?

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i vote for webfreer browser in China..while you wait you can use this..

secondly ultrasurf ( worked on 3 out of 4 computers i used it on)

 

while you are waiting for the endless restrictions to end... 

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I just hope they do end and this isn't the new normal.

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ou812:

Funny, I would just be happy to check my email. I still don’t understand the reasoning. I can open articles that clearly tell the awful truth to the story, but I can’t open my Gmail. I guess I will just have to wait a few days.

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Yeah, same here, I can open-up things about that event that never happened and that thou shalt not talk about. Yet, yesterday, the BBC was cut when mentioning it, and Google is crippled like there's no tomorrow.

Rather than looking for some really wise reasoning, I just explain it with a mix of

* incompetence ("Fine grain filtering ? Okay, I don't know how to do it efficiently")
* raw bluntness ("Let's cripple any link to Google without fine-grain filtering, faster & simple")

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I81B4U

 

You should get a VPN.  Astrill is pretty good, but a little pricey. 

Hotwater:

I use the same as you & currently it works normally for FB, etc but can't get Goog to work. 

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They're worried about mainlander's access to Google and while we can access many sites talking about "the event" in English, I'm sure the Chinese language articles are locked down.

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The day one single guy stood on the road and stopped the traffic.

 

Chinese cannot see that.

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monkey man is probly right 25 yrs since tiananimen today and they don't want people to remember it or talk about it

the news here said 30 on a broad cast I heard today
but then again 1 day in China on a BCD feels like a month

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25 years

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Oh, now I get it. The Firewall of China isn't in overdrive just coz of that hoax article - it's the anniversary of Tiananmen. I feel like a real dum-dum. I was just telling the good news to my Chinese co-workers, and then I had to apologize for misinforming them.

Then I read the part: "China will also ... offer crash courses in etiquette to tourist groups before they go abroad." and had to laugh out loud in the presence of my increasingly irritated co-workers. Still, no regrets.

laowaigentleman:

Chinese are lecturing foreigners in etiquette? Hopefully it doesn't involve queuing for or personal hygiene when using public amenities, otherwise we're all screwed.

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I have read that there have been 30 million Chinese who have left China for greener pastures. Let’s assume that each one of them can read the internet freely in their new homeland. Now let’s assume they all know at least 10 family members in China. That means at least 300,000,000 people in China should be aware of the facts. I guess it is still a minority, but isn’t it about time to quit pretending nothing happened? It’s not like America didn’t kill students at Kent State, on May 4th 1970 so we have a less than perfect track record ourselves. I still don't know why MSN isn't resticted like Google and Yahoo search. Maybe tomorrow we can actually read our emails? Wishful thinking, I'm sure.

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I hope it ends soon. This is "Isle of Man TT" race week, and I can't get more than 10 minutes radio stream to listen to it.

 

It's all nonsense really. Most Chinese don't know about it. Very very few care. Those who do care already know. The others don't want to know. What's the point?

DrMonkey:

I read on the BBC that young censors have problems to recognize pictures from ... that event that thou shalt no talk about, because they were not told much about it. Deleting the past, rewriting history, Orwell's vision made true.

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That's exactly my point Dr M.

 

There are of course more secrets that are so secret that the censors don't even know about them. So you can openly read about them on English websites, because the censors don't know the stories are supposed to be censored. 

 

I chuckle about it to myself every time I go through airport security surprise

 

 

 

 

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Maybe tomorrow things aren't going to be so wonderful either

http://www.trust.org/item/20140604054858-09bcv/

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GoAgent will save your virtual life, can't help you at all for anything related to the IRL however.

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There are free VPNs that let you access Google and gmail. No, I will not name them here but do your homework and your problem will be solved

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/-sp-edward-snowden-nsa-whis...

 

[Why should we trust Google any more than we trust the State?] For one you don’t have to. Association with Google is voluntary. But it does raise an important question. And I would say, while there is a distinction in that – Google can’t put you in jail, Google can’t task a drone to drop a bomb on your house – we shouldn’t trust them without verifying what their activities are, how they’re using our data.

We should have some kind of civil protection, some kind of civil actions that provide for recourse and the review of companies’ use of data. And we need to have at least a broad social agreement about where these lines should be drawn without unnecessarily harming new models of business and new services that we might not be able to anticipate today that we’ll need tomorrow. … I don’t use Google. I have used Skype and Google hangouts, which are great but unfortunately security compromised services, for public talks where they’ve been required but I wouldn’t use it for personal communications.

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when they make a president of China, than it will happen.  surprise

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I don't think they will end.

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There are no restrictions

 

only harmonisations.

 

If you rephrase your question accordingly

then it will be eligible to join the harmonious queue.

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dunno, but I heard beelzebub will be in the market for a down parka...

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