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Q: Any marinas with sailing instructors in Qingdao, Xiamen, Shanghai, Shenzhen, etc..?

Me and the wife have finally formed our exit plan from China.  In approx. 3 or 4 years, We and our two children will board our live-in sailboat and sail around the world.  We don't know where we'll end up, but we will have hella-va-time getting there.  Our first step is learning to sail. Does anyone know of any marinas in China that give sailing lessons or rent boats?  One of my friends was a sailing instructor in San Diego and he is currently teaching English in Shanghai.   I was just in Shanghai and could find no marinas who could help us, but Shanghai is the preferable place.

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I know Shanghai has a sailing club, but it's on a lake. Not sure if that would help you much. 

xinyuren:

Even practicing on a lake would be helpful.  Do you know which lake?

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xinyuren:

oh, never mind. I think I found it.  Dianshan Lake.

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Hope this helps

 

 

Shanghai Saimeng Water Sports Club (上海赛艋船艇运动俱乐部)
289 Yingzhu Lu, near Gangzhou Lu
盈朱路289号, 近港周路
+86 21 5923 3916
www.saimengclub.com

CharlieB:

Also a quick internet search shows there is a LinkedIn China sailing group

and instructors.

 

 

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xinyuren:

This is great news about Linkedin! I tried emailing that club before and didn't receive an answer. thanks.

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LOL, I'm reading the LinkedIn group about sailing in China.  This one foreigner boat designer has this to say about the boating culture in China.  I thought you guys might enjoy the read:

 

William Dawkins

William

William Dawkins

CEO at Dalian Kiwi Business & Trade Co Ltd and Kiwi Marine Design & Technology Ltd

The whole pleasure boating scene here in China is strange to say the least of it: 
* They are dreaming of, planning and building Marinas like there is no tomorrow yet boating of any sort has not taken off here yet. Some of these Marinas are in areas where there is sea ice, others in areas where there are Typhoons, yet others in rivers which can rise over 9m during flooding... 

* Each Province has its own "Boat Driving License" so a normal "Captain" and I use that word lightly, would need a number of "Boat Licenses" to travel from Dalian where I live in the north east of China to say Sanya in the south. Supposedly they are talking about one License for the whole country but I would guess this is low on the priority list of things to do. 

* My province Liaoning, I as a foreigner can not get a License yet if I lived in say Shenzhen in the south, I have been told that I could get one. 

* I understand that I can sail a yacht without a motor without a License. 

* Things will chance when someone in Beijing realizes what a money spinner this whole Boating thing can be. 

* Many of the boats so far in private ownership are to give their owners "big face" and most of them are motorboats which in Dalian rarely leave the dock. What would they do with them if they did venture out... they have vacuumed the sea almost clean of fish, few people go diving, many of the European designed boats are narrow beamed and make them sea sick and most of the European yachts have no shade from the sun and no upper class Chinese wants to get a sun tan as that is what peasants have. They want the boats as a place to play cards etc and drink beer etc so most of the sleeping cabins are irrelevant to them also except for some who will take their mistress down there. 

* While China gets bad write ups in the overseas press, in general terms people have plenty of personal freedoms here I think... just not in boating yet. 

* As a foreigner doing business in China, it is not easy and certainly most Joint Ventures with the locals in the Boat Building area have come to grief and should be avoided like the plague. Things in reality are never as they appear with things in the first instance all bright and rosy yet they will still turn out to be shit for you once the other party has what they want from you. Just visiting here and having a "look" will never give you the truth of this market. 

There are a few really good locals in this market who have a passion for it and in particular sailing but they are very, very few in number.

 

DrMonkey:

The comment about the sun tan, the boats that moves too much and the face potential of an acquisition is priceless ^^

I once looked for sailplane in China, to dust-off my pilot license a bit. ZERO sailplane clubs in China. Sailplanes are expensive, fragile hardware, but it's still less expensive than playing golf. And there are definitely people playing golf in China. However, you get tanned easily in a sailplane, it moves like in a rollercoaster, and OMG flying without engines, crazy laowai stuffs, no way :p The sons of Han are a tad pusillanimous.

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hehe, yesterday I was on my balcony on the 25th floor when I observed someone dropped a piece of paper out of a window between our apartment buildings.  I watched and watched as that paper, instead of going down, went round and round and up and up.  Immediately I thought of getting a RC sailplane to share the experience with my wife's students.  But a full size aircraft?  While China's many small mountains and lakes would seem idea for the wind currents needed,  I think the paucity of available land prevent this from becoming a popular hobby (among other things).

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Desert areas with small mountains range would be *perfect* for sailplanes :) With a small mountain range, you just need a catapult-like device to launch a sailplane, it's much, much cheaper than towing to a motor-propelled plane. Xinjiang and Ganxu would be awesome, they have this and mostly clear weather year-round. A real problem would be air space usage, I read that something like 70% to 90% of the air space is reserved for the army. Also, you needed trained people (few failures with a sailplane, but one failure is most likely deadly) and a market. So no sailplane in China.

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royceH:

What's a sail plane?  Do you mean a glider?  Or a hang-glider?

 

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xinyuren:

a sailplane is an unpowered airplane, usually just a one seater.  A glider.

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No info about your question.. but I like your plan...

good luck

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I've had exposure to sailing in Qingdao and my good friend is up to her eyeballs in it.

She would definitely be a go to person to give you advice and perhaps assistance.

I know she's been sailing in other places in China too and I guess she'd have contacts in those places.

She can be contacted through the Qingdao 'Redstar' magazine.  They have a website.

 

How much money does one need to embark on such an adventure?

 

xinyuren:

Thanks for the contact.  I'll look her up.   Costs of sailing varies greatly depending on your goals, just like everything else.  We will be living onboard and circumventing the world, so our boat would need to be fitted appropriately for such a journey, which will take more than a year (probably closer to 2 years since we will be stopping at ports at sea).  Our boat will need to be big enough for a family of four, yet small enough so that I can sail it alone or with my wife.  Ideal size will be 40 - 45ft.   Of course I will buy used and my budget is around 100K usd, but you can find many suitable crafts below and above that threshold.  I don't know about sailing lessons prices.  From what I've been reading, sailing instruction in China is Mickey Mouse, like everything else.  Good thing I have a friend.

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xinyuren:

btw, should I contact the magazine and ask for royce's good friend?  What's her name, dude?

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Offshore sailing you should contact Qingdao Yacht Club, they have the number of some guys who run a French yacht franchise there. They are very experienced and sail all over the place in ocean-going yachts. 

I almost had a job with them, sadly it didn't come off.

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Xiamen - for sure

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Zhuhai

 

http://www.macauhub.com.mo/en/2014/02/28/zhuhai-becomes-yachting-centre-...

 

Also the article has relevant information such as "China has 46 Yacht clubs"

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