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Q: Anyone else have a lot of respect for Xi Jinping?

Yeah, yeah. I've heard it all. Everyone's saying he's just trying to consolidate power. Yet, he's going after corrupt officials who have already fled abroad. Even the United States has signed an agreement to give them data on corrupt officials, and help return them to China for punishment.

 

Fact of the matter is, he seems to be doing a really good job in cleaning up China, both tigers and flies. He seems to genuinely care about the common person as well.

 

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think he's doing a great job at cleaning up a big mess.

4 years 24 weeks ago in  Arts & Entertainment - Beijing

 
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Why is this in Arts & Entertainment??

 

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No, I don't (have respect for Xi).

 

He's just another guy at the top, trying to use his power to control whatever he can, and fatten his bank accounts. Xi is just as corrupt - or vastly more so - than any of the other fat pigs he's apparently been chasing.

 

When he met with his nation's biggest 'antagonist' for 'talks', he publicly snubbed him in front of a whole host of media - surely the work of a peasant mentality and completely idiotic in world politics. The BS in the East China Sea invading the territorial waters of sovereign nations - again, stupid, and merely a demonstration of his inadequacy as a world leader.

 

What has actually changed in the lives of the ordinary people - the one's he's charged with protecting and improving? Well, basically nothing... and that's not going to change either.

 

Xi's comment mentioned above about democracy... of course he'll never consider democracy - he'd lose all his power. It has nothing to do with any 'effective' versions - it's all about control. Democracy - of the many types around the world - can and does work.And, what's his definition of 'effective'? Obviously - who gets to control everything?  (I'm not saying democracy is the best system, however I do think that the people at the bottom, whose lives are most affected by the decisions at the top, ought to have a say in what happens to them. Certainly, the guys at the top shouldn't be treating them as their own personal slave store they way they have been here).

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Nope. Not much respect for him or his party. Although, I will give him props for the wonderful game of "smoke and mirrors" he plays. And, he would fit right in with any American politician the way he says one thing to fool the people and does another.

When President Xi came into power, I was curious to know if he was another wolf in sheep's clothing. It turns out that he is. But, you really can't blame him entirely. He is nothing more than a product of his Communist beliefs and his culture. And, he is trying so hard to make himself into the next Chinese God for the 21st century (mao), that he has lost sight of what his original intent for China was. If Presidedent Xi gets his way, b ythe end of his term, he will do to China, what Putin has done to Russia. Both are using similar playbooks to achieve their ego stroking, legacy building agendas.

He could have been a great 21st century leader and bring China into the world as a great superpower and leader of the world. But, his current actions, which have been tried before in history, is destined to fail. The reason for the failure...Communist and Socialist theology. No country has proven the stability of such a system to advance and prosper their nations under such systems. Governments do not make a prosperous and successful nation. It is the people of the nation that do it. And, they do it through, among other things, free thinking, creative thinking, initiative, and critical thinking. All of which the Chinese government fears in giving to their citizens.

President Xi responded to a question last year that I originally thought was smart. But, under reflection, I realized how truly wrong he was. He was asked why China does not try a form of Democracy in China. His answer was that they have looked at various models of democracy in the world and have not found a successful model that has worked in the world. At first I thought he was correct. Even America has faultered in that great democracy experiment in the past. But, then I realized that through democracy systems, places like Japan, Thailand, and even the COUNTRY of Taiwan, has prospered and advanced themselves under such systems. It does not have to be a USA, UK, Canada, or Australian based model. But, a similar model could and would work, in time, in China.

So, long story short...NO. I do not think President Xi deserves respect yet for his accomplishments as a great leader in China. Maybe one day I can change that answer.

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Xi is just helping us understand how efficient the Coué method can be. Take over the media, impose optimistic autosuggestion, hammer, hammer, hammer, hammer. There's no lie too big for it.

 

For a long time I have been wondering whether this anti-corruption graft was either for show, out of genuine care or simply for replacing the seats with loyals. Either way it was indeed all doomed to fail.

 

Given what I have seen on the ground, given the good glimpse I could have at the replacement personnel, I can say with enough confidence that the answer is the last one. The central government doesn't give a damn about corruption, and I don't think at any point did they ever hope that China could be ridden of corruption.

Apart from the fact that the CCP would evaporate in thin air should this be actually fought with success, there is one simple fact:

Greed leads to corruption, and greed is hard coded in this society, to the extent that it's a constant in their history. A history that's been turning in circles for the best part of the last thousands of years it claims to have. It's who they are, it's what they do. They burn fake money for their deceased elders to use. What would you expect from people who think of money as a transcendental extension of the human being. Corruption is just a symptom, and you can only trick the body into thinking it's better for so long when you only treat symptoms.

 

The new president is looking at giving the longest longevity to the oligarchy it leads. Which means #1 setting up clear barriers so the peons can't look away, #2 making sure the personnel is in check, loyal and well within aforementioned barriers, #3 keeping the fantasy running and the stability intact at any cost, as contradictory as it sounds.

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Why is this in Arts & Entertainment??

 

Oh, yeah, got it! Tongue

 

No, I don't (have respect for Xi).

 

He's just another guy at the top, trying to use his power to control whatever he can, and fatten his bank accounts. Xi is just as corrupt - or vastly more so - than any of the other fat pigs he's apparently been chasing.

 

When he met with his nation's biggest 'antagonist' for 'talks', he publicly snubbed him in front of a whole host of media - surely the work of a peasant mentality and completely idiotic in world politics. The BS in the East China Sea invading the territorial waters of sovereign nations - again, stupid, and merely a demonstration of his inadequacy as a world leader.

 

What has actually changed in the lives of the ordinary people - the one's he's charged with protecting and improving? Well, basically nothing... and that's not going to change either.

 

Xi's comment mentioned above about democracy... of course he'll never consider democracy - he'd lose all his power. It has nothing to do with any 'effective' versions - it's all about control. Democracy - of the many types around the world - can and does work.And, what's his definition of 'effective'? Obviously - who gets to control everything?  (I'm not saying democracy is the best system, however I do think that the people at the bottom, whose lives are most affected by the decisions at the top, ought to have a say in what happens to them. Certainly, the guys at the top shouldn't be treating them as their own personal slave store they way they have been here).

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No.  Not one bit.

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It seems like they must be losing control if they "ban" western TV shows and western thought in schools. It's even worse in Beijing. But then again, if they lose Beijing they lose the whole country.

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He certainly is better that other leaders China has had. Respect, no. Has the guy ever actually done anything or did all his power just drop onto his lap because his parents happened to be near the power. 

 

Does he have the respect of the people. Probably not. In China the people don't respect the government, they fear it. 

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China has certainly seen worse leaders than Xi.  For those who say he doesn't really care about corruption,  you are wrong.  Corruption is the enemy of all forms of government and China's corruption is at epic levels.  Xi wisely sees that corruption could very well lead to the fall of the party.  I think he's serious about it.  But let's be honest, he's trying to kill two birds with one stone.  First and foremost, he's wants to secure his position as head of CCP, military, and head of State.  While I don't agree with his ideology, I respect his office and I feel he is doing a competent job, considering his goals.

 

Democracy works?  Who thinks that?  Please define "works".  In my opinion, it doesn't work any more than Communism or Socialism.  For a moment, adjust your world view and pretend that the majority of governments were communist and democracy was the minority - the opposite of reality.  Most likely we would all be demonizing "wicked" democratic values. Communism's black eye is largely the result of being in the  minority. But if you define "works" as running smoothly, then you won't find a single government that meets that criteria.  If your definition is more liberal, Xi's form of government also works.  It definitely appears he has a clear plan and he has the fortitude and means to carry it out.  Whether or not he will meet success is another matter altogether.

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The "clean-up" : since pretty much all officials of any level are corrupt, it's easy to push them out on corruption charge. Exactly like Judge Dredd : police, judge, jury, executioner rolled into one, and don't you dare question his almighty judgement ("it's our culture", "China is different"). Sounds more like a purge to me, since the investigation process is completely opaque.

Does he care about the country ? Yes. But so far, it's more about the oligarchy than the commoner. Son of the oligarchy (I mean, look who his Dad is...), servant of the oligarchy. The cleaning going on is more about ensuring the oligarchy have a future, rather than the well-being of the commoner. "But it's like this in the West too" : depends on the country, and you have to look into the details to see major difference in quality and quantity.

Respect ? When there are lots of talks about curbing foreign influences and encourage local innovation... but sending his daughter studying to Harvard and sending to jail home-grown civil right activist, nope, no respect.

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some copying and pasting

 

“Why must we stand firm on the Party’s leadership over the military?” Xi continued, “because that’s the lesson from the collapse of the Soviet Union. In the Soviet Union where the military was depoliticized, separated from the Party and nationalized, the party was disarmed. A few people tried to save the Soviet Union; they seized Gorbachev, but within days it was turned around again, because they didn’t have the instruments to exert power. Yeltsin gave a speech standing on a tank, but the military made no response, keeping so-called ‘neutrality.’ Finally, Gorbachev announced the disbandment of the Soviet Communist Party in a blithe statement. A big Party was gone just like that. Proportionally, the Soviet Communist Party had more members than we do,but nobody was man enough to stand up and resist.”

[…] Xi Jinping didn’t mention “political reform” in the new southern tour speech. In fact, he has not made any reference to it since after the 18th Party’s Congress. Instead, in his southern tour speech, he laid out his ideological bedrocks: “Only socialism can save China. Only (economic) reform and opening-up can develop China, develop socialism, and develop Marxism. 

This was from 2 years ago.

Also reading on how Xi is an adherent of Legalism.  Which is very autocratic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalism_(Chinese_philosophy)

 

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simply put.... yes.... I have respect for what he is doing.

the system and the society is not going to change overnight. I believe he is on the right track.

get rid of the "bad apples" for starters. train some new ones (hope he is doing that).

Putin, as far as I can see and believe "mostly from western media", has just gone backwards ... does he have a trainee that is not from the "good old days"?

 

the people here, Chinese people, would not know how to "vote" ...  who to vote for or why........  

for now, a strong leader is required and I think Xi Jinping is being that strong leader.. spread the wealth dammit.

not gonna happen overnight!!!

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In the world, a new age has come..... nobody is reacting fast enough to it...or is prepared for it ....  it is a GLOBAL WORLD ......   nobody could have or should have expected the unbelievable speed at which technology has taken over. 

Obama (USA) and Jinping (China) have a handle on it...I believe ....  it is a world that needs to smarten up or destroy itself ..at least the human part of it.  ...  others of course know this too, but they are the 2 big guns. .....  

everybody I know here, educated or not, has access to a smartphone and more information than they ever, ever could have had just 10 years ago.....small town China.

India's democracy could show some light to the Chinese and the billions of people involved in this region .....

 

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Very easy to confuse fear and respect in Mainland China these days............

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I have more respect for Xi than I do for the 47 Republican traitors who seem to the the only way forward is to go to war.

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in my home town.....  I do not believe there is fear of progress or fear of Beijing..... what I see is a glimpse of opportunity.....people  do have a belief that  things are getting better....even those that bought houses last year or 2 years ago....  overpaid for their homes......but what the hey, shit happens ........I overpaid for mine back home too. (twice).

no fear.

the respect part is kind of indifferent..... prove it "prick"  make my life better.  ... and of course that is not going to happen in an instant....  time will tell.

I do respect "him" ..... the locals have been burnt more than once.... prove it.

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YOU SHALL RESPECT MA AUTHORITA!

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Who is Xi Jinping? 

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Ideology is a specious way of relating to the world. It offers human beings the illusion of an identity, of dignity, and of morality while making it easier for them to part with them. As the repository of something suprapersonal and objective, it enables people to deceive their conscience and conceal their true position and their inglorious modus vivendi, both from the world and from themselves. It is a very pragmatic but, at the same time, an apparently dignified way of legitimizing what is above, below, and on either side. It is directed toward people and toward God. It is a veil behind which human beings can hide their own fallen existence, their trivialization, and their adaptation to the status quo. It is an excuse that everyone can use, from the greengrocer, who conceals his fear of losing his job behind an alleged interest in the unification of the workers of the world, to the highest functionary, whose interest in staying in power can be cloaked in phrases about service to the working class. The primary excusatory function of ideology, therefore, is to provide people, both as victims and pillars of the post-totalitarian system, with the illusion that the system is in harmony with the human order and the order of the universe. . . . Vaclav Havel

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