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Q: Are China's diamonds all blood diamonds?
Since they probably get them from corrupt African country which China has trade agreements with ...
I'd say no...............! You can't say they are all blood diamonds because they sell tiffany diamonds and cartier diamonds here as well.
Lolitta2:
Yeah but those are probably blood diamonds too. Just because they have a fancy name doesn't mean they came from an ethical source.
i know what you mean by, you cant say they are all blood diamonds, but who knows. and i would say its much easier to sell blood diamonds here since noone is aware of blood diamond situation, and no laws to limit the amount of blood diamonds coming in
Fair go Matty, you are an idiot.
I wouldn't take the risk on Chinese diamonds, personally.
A diamond is a diamond and it's quality can be easily checked. As to the source, tbh I don't care. I would draw the line at endangered animal products or drugs but diamonds or such, to me are fair game. Not that I'm in the earnings category where I get to put that into effect anyway.
Lolitta,
The subject piqued my interest so I did a quick google check. If you do the same, you may feel an overwhelming desire to bang your head against something repeatedly. If half of what's in the top couple of pages of articles is correct the Chinese government has set up joint venture diamond companies in countries run by some of the more particularly awful regimes of the world, and is outright buying diamonds in exchange for aid in other cases.
So not only are the diamonds here blood diamonds, but in some cases, you'll also be making a donation to the Chinese government and encouraging further investment in such unsavory activities.
(Getting on soapbox....) If, unlike Hugh, you have the slightest regard for human dignity, and don't want to support the hideous regimes of Mugabe and co, then avoid Chinese diamonds. Having pretty sparkly crap on your finger is surely not worth knowing you've (ed: potentially) supported the dehumanzing evil that is the blood diamond industry. (Getting off soapbox)
MissA:
It's also worth pointing out that diamonds from Zimbabwe, for example, (where China has major diamond investments) are not considered blood diamonds.
I've never been happier with the chunk of rock hanging from my neck.
All diamonds comes from similar places.
So if You buy in Amsterdam - there will be the same blood on it.
MissA:
Not all, White Bear. Many, but not all. There are checks and systems in place and you as a consumer are in your rights (and, I'd argue, have an obligation) to demand proof of origin, if you buy diamonds in any western country. If consumers do not then it's because of apathy and idiocy, both of which are inexcusable if you're talking about conflict diamonds. ED: China has actually signed up to the Kimberley Process (international agreement re confict diamonds and certification scheme) so you're theoretically within your rights to demand proof of ethical origin in China as well. Good luck with that, though!
WhiteBear:
as far as I know only two kinds of diamonds do not have blood on them:
- laboratory made
- from ocean bottom, because they are mined by partly automated ships
any diamond that was mined in land of Africa, and other regions where workforce is "cheap" - has the same blood on it's shiny carats
MissA:
I see your point, but won't concede 100 per cent. To follow your argument to its logical conclusion, we're also wearing 'blood clothes' and 'blood shoes', carrying 'blood electronics' and often eating 'blood food', if any of the products we use are produced by companies using lower-wage capital markets.
Being an ethical consumer in a globalized market is a difficult thing indeed, and diamonds share the same problems as many products.
Elements of the diamond industry get the tag 'blood', or the slightly less sexy 'conflict', not just because it's run by people wanting to capitalize on cheaper labor markets. The blood diamond industry is run by bloodthirsty SOBs who enslave human beings to raise the capital (in diamonds) to wage war on their own people. That's in its own special class of nasty.
