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Q: Are there enough FTs in China?

Today's Jobs website sports English teacher vacancies on (let me check for the latest data) 21 pages with 25 English teaching job openings per page.

Some are repeaters, but roughly that's around 450 English teaching vacancies per today.

21 pages is the record in the last month.

 

It looks, Schools by posting job adverts might be making money somehow by advertising vacancies here.

 

I wonder, what do they (Schools) do if they can't get FT by all desired parameters.

 

Does Native English Teacher in China come similar as panda? Watch your hair.

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if there were more ethnicities on the streets here, perhaps teachers wouldn't be employed as glorified petting zoo attractions. as it stands, i don't see FTs being valued for skill anytime soon, they are only worth novelty and entertainment value. it's like how drugs lose their potency after prolonged use - giving less satisfaction. diminishing returns.
i think that's why I had such a hard time when I discovered what 'teaching' in China meant: there are no long term prospects, no investment in your experience, no opportunities to be found. just a migratory lifestyle where you need to keep moving, so your face and 'teaching style' can supply novelty and entertainment value to new faces.
It's not unlike how a con artist has to skip town after a while, having outstayed his welcome, his methods and face become too well known. teaching should not be a scam.

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You have to consider how many people advertising are legit, how many bait-and-switch positions are advertised, how many i.d thieves are advertising, how many duplicates due to agents copying from other adverts, etc.

Then, of course, are the low-ballers - 40 hours per week, 6 days per week, for the whopping salary of 3500 RMB/mo.

 

Yet, there are always takers...

P.S. 'Are there...'

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Instead of teachers, lets just say foreigners.

In one hand there is too many, on the other, not enough.

What hand has precidence depends on how the wind blows.

China has too many skeletons in the closet yet to allow too many foreigners in. We need to wait for the closet to be cleaned before the wind blows in our favour.

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No, the demand for foreign teachers in China greatly outweigh the supply. Yet they keep offering ridiculously low salaries.

 

Thailand on the other hand has way too many FTs wannabe. But those won't come to China, they rather struggle in the land of smiles than in the land of smog.

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This is what I do in my down hours.... I look out the window.  Often I listen to music at the same time.

At the moment it's Talking Heads, again.

8k for 100 hrs of summer gig sounds like a shove it up your kyber pass kind of gig.

Forget it and go up the Karakoram Hwy!

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There is huge demand. I've known several schools (high schools as well as universities) firsthand with a shortage of non-Chinese teachers, and no native speakers in some cases.

 

The problem is that China both knows it needs to get non-Chinese to come, but also is loathe to admit it (and lose face by admitting that it actually needs waiguoren), and also just can't do what's needed to keep non-Chinese, or even attract them (decent working conditions, less xenophobia, good pay, etc.).

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Definitely not enough teachers to satisfy the demand. But nobody is willing to pay the real money either. I don't care much for learning the language, so money is the only thing that talks to me.  I wish I were tall and black, then I could teach basketball and earn a killing!

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Hmmm - get no-one and get almost nothing..

 

Or... get in a native speaker, and lose the bonus in the teacher's pay?

 

Like that's a real choice!!!

 

Remember, the first rule of business in China is NOT make money - it's ensure that you screw someone over while making money! The "I screwed over a foreigner" is worth thousands of free lunches and dinners!!! That sort of mianzi just doesn't come along every day (week, month, year...)

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if there were more ethnicities on the streets here, perhaps teachers wouldn't be employed as glorified petting zoo attractions. as it stands, i don't see FTs being valued for skill anytime soon, they are only worth novelty and entertainment value. it's like how drugs lose their potency after prolonged use - giving less satisfaction. diminishing returns.
i think that's why I had such a hard time when I discovered what 'teaching' in China meant: there are no long term prospects, no investment in your experience, no opportunities to be found. just a migratory lifestyle where you need to keep moving, so your face and 'teaching style' can supply novelty and entertainment value to new faces.
It's not unlike how a con artist has to skip town after a while, having outstayed his welcome, his methods and face become too well known. teaching should not be a scam.

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Just as the users of this site are increasing with the average of 250 people everyday..so are the number of job vacancies...

so most probably very few of them would be legit

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Also we have to consider that in big cities no one is going to work at a public gov school for Y9,000 to 10,000 with a free sh*ty apartment. Well some guys over their 60's can, go retirement job.  The point is that the salary doesn't match the cost of living in the city where the FT is working, so why work there if you can't save money? This what tons of my FT friends say in Shenzhen.. It sad Shenzhen loses alot of good talent and teachers because of the high cost of rent these days.

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