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Q: Beijingers, is the new smoking law effective?
The first month after the law was put into effect there were numerous reports on its impact, but I haven't seen anything as of late. Anyway, I'm heading up there tomorrow and wonder how it's going. Have you noticed a difference? Are restaurants abiding? It sure would be nice to enjoy a meal out, without having to burn my clothes when I get home. Here's to hoping!
9 years 24 weeks ago in Health & Safety - Beijing
Can you post a link to one of the reports?
wagon:
https://thenanfang.com/smokers-defiantly-snub-beijings-smoking-ban/
.echinacities.com/news/Smoking-Ban-in-Beijing-Begins-But-Can-China-Actually-Control-Its-Tobacco-Use
http://shanghaiist.com/2015/06/16/wechat_users_can_now_tattle-tell_on.php
Foreign
wagon:
These are just a few of many. There was lots of reporting but no follow up. Edit: Sorry for the link mess.
Can you post a link to one of the reports?
wagon:
https://thenanfang.com/smokers-defiantly-snub-beijings-smoking-ban/
.echinacities.com/news/Smoking-Ban-in-Beijing-Begins-But-Can-China-Actually-Control-Its-Tobacco-Use
http://shanghaiist.com/2015/06/16/wechat_users_can_now_tattle-tell_on.php
Foreign
wagon:
These are just a few of many. There was lots of reporting but no follow up. Edit: Sorry for the link mess.
I found that it works to a certain point... early in the evening is great, all of the smokers go outside..... but...... later.... when the white devil spirit kicks in... they light up all over the place...
the no smoking law does not work in Shenzhen,no gives a fuck
I can safely report that very little has changed in Beijing. My hotel's lobby was an ashtray and restaurants didn't give the slightest of care. Another Chinese law that is rolled out with great fanfare, lacks enforcement, and dies a quiet death. Well done CCP!
The only way that laws are ever going to be seriously enforced is if someone high up starts losing face!
So, the best way to do this is to take lots of photos and videos, and upload them to lots of sights (perhaps magazines) and directly blame the local police and government for their complete lack of action. You would need to actually NAME someone too - not just say 'the government', but "The mayor, Zhou, ...".
wagon:
Yeah, I agree. But whose feet are going to be held to the fire?
It would be better, I think, if foreign press actually followed up and publicized their lack of enforcement(or their lack of control over the population) It might get zheng fu's attention if the world notices.
The first few months it was extremely effective. Restaurants, bars, and clubs I went to before the smoking ban that were notorious for smokers barred patrons from smoking. Today, the bars and clubs have relented, but a lot of the restaurants are still keeping people from smoking inside.
Everyone smoked in the stairwell of my office building before the smoking ban, and now the building's management hands out fines. No one smokes inside anymore.
As expected, smoking ban goes up in the smoke?
"It’s been one week since Beijing’s new ban on indoor smoking went into effect, with authorities pledging a tough new approach in a city where 23 percent of the population smokes.
A report Monday by the state-run China Daily newspaper stated that one in three public venues has already violated the ban, which applies to restaurants, schools, bars and other indoor locations. Among those receiving warnings from public health officials during inspection tours last week were 15 hospitals and more than 280 individuals, according to the newspaper, with 60% of restaurants breaking the ban....."
http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2015/06/08/heard-in-the-hutong-what-d...
earthizen:
LOL. The Yangists (Yangism) got half of their assertion (*the Yangists saw individual well-being as the prime purpose of life, and considered anything that hindered that well-being immoral and unnecessary) right. The part they failed to take into consideration fully (which makes the latter part of their assertion '....immoral and unnecessary' wrong) has something to do with human nature, which to be fair they did look into.
A good teacher is Mother Nature. Simply compare the human species with practically any other species on this planet.....
*A brief explanation for those who would like to know more about Yangism.
