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Q: Beware of Imposters

I got a meaasge from Curiousdude today. He told me his account had been hacked.

I looked it up. Someone has cloned him. Curlousdude.

One character difference. Please be smart as posters, and spot the fakes.

What twat would do that.

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haha,, I guess I'll take it as a compliment. I'd like to get a stalker like that Oz girl back in the day,, the one who married Tom Cruise,,, haha,, whatta serious Fox!  can't I get a stalker like her!

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I don't really worry about imposters, I'm quite confident that I have single handedly pissed off every member of this forum with my views at one point in time or another, and I'm quite confident some don't believe any thing about my personality. Ambivalent sort of says the same thing, so nothing a poser could put down here about me would matter unless he was a flaming leftists and then people would just think alzheimers finally got me.

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@ambivalent, well u hv nevr pissd me. i respect all opinions n wl beg to diffr if different view.. (but some insecure musketeers like these resort to personl attacks, lol.).

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I saw a username online that was like Diverdude yesterday - might have been Diberdude, Diverdube.. something like that.

 

Heads up dude - the real one I mean, you seem to have a stalker.

Curiousdude:

it was 'divercube' i remembr..

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This is sort of related... admin / mods or whoever.. are you able to match people's name to their I.P address?

 

Reason I ask is that I saw a harmless post yesterday get about 8 down votes in a short time, and another post having a dig at someone got about 10 up votes in a short time.

 

There just aren't that many regular posters online at any one time, I'm pretty sure it's one idiot with multiple usernames, wouldn't surprise me if it was the cloner.

 

I don't care much one way or another, if some sad little man wants to waste his time trolling a website it's his problem but I do feel like it brings down the tone of the place. It's the online version of a dickhead who feels the need to scribble his 'gangster' name on every wall he sees and make an otherwise nice area look like a ghetto.

 

Curiousdude:

i saw tht downvotin'/upvotin' too, happend fast at the same time these 'clones' were online...

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daxigua:

they made a mess of the 'what did you eat tonight' thread.

while it may not be what everyone wants, it is a discussion and likely useful content for one of us expats thinking, now 'what do I cook tonight' using local stuff from the market

so now, most of it is hidden by that troll 'censoring using downvotes'

kinda breaks ECC in a way likely not intended.

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"The sound of one hand clapping"

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Stiggs:

I don't know about others here, but when I see something hidden with a lot of down votes, it makes me that much more interested in reading it.  There must be something interesting going on there.

 

Don't worry about the down voter mate, if someone is upset enough to down vote recipes he obviously has his own emotional problems to deal with.

 

I like seeing your recipes, I enjoy messing around in the kitchen. Can't say I will try them all, especially your latest but that's ok, don't let the trolls stop you.

 

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"Stupid is as stupid does."

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Yep Nothot, I agree with a lot of what you say.

 

There are a vocal few, and I also think some of the people here have more than one account. In fact I'm sure of it.

 

Since I joined ECC I've seen bullying, hypocrisy, double standards, trolling, selective censorship, cliques shutting down otherwise reasonable discussions, new posters driven away by accusations of trolling and other things, members banned and sometimes come back - multiple times, people always complaining about how the site is run...all sorts of bullshit. Behavior I'm sure is pretty common to most, if not all forums. Not saying I like or approve of it but it is what it is.

 

You seem to have been following the forum closely, I'm guessing you maybe are or have been a member. Whatever, you obviously know how the forum works and what goes on. You would know that there are genuine posters here (even if you don't agree with what they have to say - they are at least genuine) and there are obvious stooges asking the same nonsense questions or just trolling and shit stirring with assumed identities. You would know that there is a lot of banter going back and forth - some good natured, some not so much but most of the regulars seem ok with that, a heated debate now and then can be fun if that's your thing. Sometimes someone will say something that others strongly disagree with and they get told so, strongly. That's the nature of a forum.

 

What I don't understand is..what is the point you're making here? I get that you don't like the way ECC is done but what are you actually saying here?

 

Are you complaining about the other members and how you didn't get on with us so you stopped posting?

 

Do you have a beef with certain people? That's cool, take it up with them.

 

Are you saying that you're behind the multiple user names and blanket down voting? If so, why? Some sort of grudge or a point you're trying to prove?

 

If you're a regular or ex member already, just come out and say what's on your mind dude. Who are you? Pretty much everyone here has clashed with other members, it's no big deal and as a regular known poster your opinion is probably somewhat respected.

 

If you've just been reading and watching for however long and you joined up to express your opinion that's cool - so what's your opinion? Is it that this forum sucks?

 

 

 

 

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Nothot:

To address ScotsAlan's original post, looking at the account he mentioned, and Diverdude's...they were not "hacked" (unauthorized access to their accounts)  or "cloned".. The two accounts in question are being "spoofed" yet neither account has made any posts, thus no attempt to deceive.

 

Since ScotsAlan is a technological "have-not", why isn't he removed as a moderator? Why is a tech illiterate, drunk (by his own and others' admissions) , self-proclaimed leftist cum-communist, a moderator?

Again, this all boils down to what George wants for this site. AdminAnswer is playing a dangerous game (as a non-native English speaker in charge of an English forum) and there are "checks and balances" in place to advise change.

'Nuff said.

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The thing with banter, discuss, agree and disagree... I like that too, I'd prefer admin to stay out of it and let things run their natural course. The problem is with banter it can get pretty heavy at times with some heated arguments. Disagreements carry over onto other threads and become feuds.People get the shits and leave. That's how life works, I don't like the idea of a mod stopping the debate because someone might get butt hurt.

 

A new poster can (and has) appear and right away say something that pisses everyone off, or is obvious bullshit. They get called out on it, cop some ribbing and probably leave when their lies are disproved which is a normal part of banter and no rules forum behavior, but some would call that being hounded out. Should admin be there deleting posts to protect them?

 

I know a few people have problems with the mods. I personally think they do a pretty decent job. Some posts have to be deleted because the topic is too political or racist or whatever which I think is fair enough. You may disagree.

 

Can you give an example where the mods (or Alan since you called him out) persecute people they don't agree with because I can't  think of any times off the top of my head. Heated debate yes but being punished for it? 

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I, myself, had three posts deleted by AdminAnswer last evening. The reason? Spam. So sorry, but I posted content plus the addition of the link to the source article.

Not spam, not advertisements, not a smidgen of clickbait.

Why were my posts flagged? Someone obviously didn't like myself calling out the status quo and AdminAnswre deleted the flagged posts without any circumspection. Who would that be? Perchance our resident sleuth and communist sympathasizer.

Jolly good that I have screenshots of both the posts in question and the AdminAnswer pms...certainly the site admin would not take me to task for complaining of such heavy-handedness despite a plethora of evidence of malfeasance by other members in the same vain.

Your beloved Vicki, Englteachted, et al are guilty of continuous and countless transgressions, yet the official response is nil.

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@Devils Advocate. Vicki is has been banned several times and was told recently to ease up with the work drama posts.

 

Ted is always having his posts deleted.

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philbravery:

Sudsy may have his vices but deep down he is probably a nice person. ..miss guided but a nice person. He only has limited tools at his disposal and would have to go through the rabbit hole of the Ecc paid staff to do anything. So i don't think it's fair to single him out. And as far as admin is concerned. ...lol. good luck. They change jobs more oftern than white house staff delete trump tweets

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haha,, I guess I'll take it as a compliment. I'd like to get a stalker like that Oz girl back in the day,, the one who married Tom Cruise,,, haha,, whatta serious Fox!  can't I get a stalker like her!

ambivalentmace:

I don't really worry about imposters, I'm quite confident that I have single handedly pissed off every member of this forum with my views at one point in time or another, and I'm quite confident some don't believe any thing about my personality. Ambivalent sort of says the same thing, so nothing a poser could put down here about me would matter unless he was a flaming leftists and then people would just think alzheimers finally got me.

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@ambivalent, well u hv nevr pissd me. i respect all opinions n wl beg to diffr if different view.. (but some insecure musketeers like these resort to personl attacks, lol.).

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Same thing or almost the same thing happened to me with my Netflix account, they said my card was declined and asked for a new card, so me being me, I called and learned a new word: phishing

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So my post about an imposter (possible admin account) and it  gets censored but you post about a non-site worker and it's ok? 

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@ Nothot...you wrote above “Earthizen for one. Sorrel,. Sinobear, Xinruyen (sp?)...all left because of the clique.” So all these left due to Scotsalan “clique”. I call bulls hit on that. Sorrel posted recently on a Vicky post The other 3? No idea but I’ll tell you what. There were cliques before, 3 posters picking on Shiningbrow comes to mind. The ones who even now downvote EVERY post that Curiousdude makes. 

 

So so who is the “Scots” clique. You’ve got no proof on your cleimd unless you were one of those posters as yours is quite a new account...yet you know the regulars quite well. 

Stiggs:

I remember Sinobear complaining about the amount of trolling, multiple accounts, bringing up of old posts, users with multiple accounts etc and asking admin to to their job. Pretty sure that's why he stopped posting. He hasn't left, he's online all the time but just doesn't post anymore.

 

I remember Sorrel complaining about similar things before she stopped posting regularly. And yes, she is still around, just doesn't post as much.

 

Xinyuren... wasn't he the guy that left because he copped some abuse for his beliefs in a discussion about religion? The way I remember it he just decided he didn't like the people here anymore and didn't want to spend his time talking to people like that- it's a shame but fair enough.

 

Earthizen. Wasn't he banned for his posts being a bit racist in nature or something like that? I sort of remember the discussion where people talked about it and I remember him being pulled up multiple times on the things he was saying.

@Nothot. These people were not bullied, they left because admin can't control the trolls and sock puppets etc - the things you seem to be justifying here in your posts or because they just don't want to talk to the people here anymore. I don't see how doing away with mods will fix that problem.

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Thanks Stiiggs for the reminders. 

 

So possibly one banned by George (Admin has to get permission to ban people) & with Earthizen you’re right. That poster only ever posted anti-China stuff. 

 

Englesteachtes is miffed at the moment for two counts of censorship. His XJ post was too sensitive l. On his sock puppet post Alan was wrong in my view though he thought he was doing the right thing. 

 

Its why im giving up. No more deleting of spam or double posts. 

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Stiggs:

I don't blame you mate. It seems like a thankless job that just leads to drama and bullshit, and you don't even get paid for it.

 

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Blondie_:

i know sorrel has been back home for a few years, and like myself, drops in occasionally.

she's actually been home longer than i have and has happily settled down.

 

there was the resent heavy snow in western europe that resulted in a degree of 'cabin fever' angry

but i'll be honest, the admins of this site have done it no favours by allowing things to get a bit out of hands - no reflection on the 'poster/admins'

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This topic rises to the surface of our turgid pond every few months. Meh! Trolls come and go so i don't know why this topic persists. Our regular posters are the biggest trolls. This is life and more so it is the life of a forum.

The offensive trolls are usually taken down promptly by other users and go back to Reddit or 4chan.

To be honest, the usermods have a thankless job. They cop abuse about trying to keep things on track. I am not innocent. I taken a shot or two at them before but being adults i trust they are astute enough to recognise that when otjer members comment it is not a personal attack but more a kneejerk reaction to our precious sensibilities.

A site like this has an ebb and flow. It tends to naturally resolve itself. Chill brothers.

philbravery:

Except for that NGO mate of yours... that nasty peice of crap just logs on as another personality. . You know there a programs out there that can help identify who is who.

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iWolf:

Hang on a sec mate, i thought he was your buddy....lol

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Buddy... Stalker ..lol...just another pastie white guy who lives in his mothers basement with a Japanese love doll...lol

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iWolf:

Hahaha....either that or on the lamb and working at Happy Giraffe and waiting for his big break as a DJ/model. Or may even be an undead morlock trying out a new handle

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philbravery:

Nah..doubt it is him ...besides now that China has taken over the MacDonalds stores he would be looking for work as a foreign expert. Or the CCP caught up with him on his visa scam and he is locked away deep underground where the sun isn't Shining. ...you know....his birth place

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iWolf:

I'm guessing he won't mind being kept as a gimp in a dark place. It's gotta be better than standing outside a franchise like living art in a yellow costume and red wig.

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philbravery:

Outside.....he would burst into flames quicker than a meat pattie in a chip fryer

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philbravery:

Maybe China is gearing up for a remake of the time machine? Macc's could get some expert product placement. ..although I have my doubts about a Happy meal doing well....although the action figure toy would creep out everyone

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But then again the glowing eyes would be a good nightlight

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iWolf:

The Mcdonald's University of Hamburgerolgy would be able to licence such a uniqie and famous alumni for a few bucks at Hallowe'en. Put his face on cigarette packets to stop young smokers too.

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philbravery:

Give him a reaper harvesting sci and smoking would be a thing of the past

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How about a remake of " Guess who's coming to Dinner"? He could role up in his clown car with a Macdonalds bag ...short straw answers the door....are Morlocks like Vampires and have to be invited before they can go in?

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The undead have become crafty buggers. I believe that by performing an IELTS ritual they can become day-walkers. Strangely the new millenium undead are buff and hot. What happened to old mate? Did he wake up one the wrong side of the crypt?

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Scotts. .thats not a hack mate.
It's a parody account. ..it's happened before and anybody can do it.
There are ways to track them back but it would be easier for admin just to delete the account

Englteachted:

Here's what you're missing. Happens to you, meh, it's a parody. Happens to us, it's a hack and must be put to an end!

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Stiggs:

Well terminology aside, if a post that seems way out of character pops up from a regular and makes you think WTF... look again, it could be from philbraverer or Englteachteddy or Stoggs or something.

 

I think that was the point of Alan's original post.

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philbravery:

Did you guys see the post? I am interested in the content ...might be able to summon the dark arts to have a look at it

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Nope, I don't even know that there was a post.

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icnif77:

Once you slide over the handle ....

Englteachted:

to c&p it elsewhere, you can edit the original handle as 

EnglTitsTed:  pron. Engl-Tits-Ted

and copy it elsewhere. I wanted to match avatar with user's name, not hack ... his slabs, LOL.. 

 

Is that a 'hack' you are talking about? 

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When I was on the main page, I noticed a "curiousdud", so I went to the profile, just curious about these imposter accounts. But it was curiousdude's real one... confused.

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I was just saying be carefull of imposters. Curious dude sent me a screen shot suggesting he had been hacked. I noticed the new account was named cutlious dude. Same avatar etc blah blah blah. I did not do any investigation, banning, blocking. I just told him what I saw from the screenshot and then posted a warning on here about it.

Mideration on here is not about petty arguements or twats with vendettas. Its about keeping the site alive in this place called China. The place that happens to have some of the toughest internet controls on the planet. And heavy penalties for trangressing them.

I have fun here. Its just a forum to answer questions about China, with a bit of banter.

Culious dude can post whatever he she wants. Just be aware that Culious dude is not curious dude.

Also, be aware that this is a privately owned form... in China. No first amendment here.

And the is exactly the same as 4chan, Reddit, twitter, or facebook. Gamergate was the case is point that established that first amendment laws did not apply to private websites... in the USA. Look it up.

ECC posters, all of us, welcome every post we get.

As to who is doing the imposter stuff, the sockpuppets etc.. I dont care. It might be ECC interns trying to up the hits. It might be CIA operatives(tin hat on), it might be bored ex military retirees. Might even be wumaos.

I dont care. I post here cos it can be fun.

I mod cos I want to help it survive.

As I keep saying. There are great people who post on here. Reach out and meet up for a beer. Stop all this sock puppet rubbish. If you want to post racist stuff, go post it on a racist website. Get the daily mail app and register to post Smile

In the meantime... please note that Curliosdude is not curiousdude

ScotsAlan:

Oh... it seems microsoft edge browser does not paragraph on ECC. Sorry.

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Microsoft edge, who uses that rubbish?

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I am well without Windows since I've had my first puter ....

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