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Q: Can I lie about work experience and get away with it?

10 years 35 weeks ago in  Business & Jobs - China

 
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i think your age would be a give-away that you didn't have the right amount of experience, even if your fake references were accepted.

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Sure of course if you can answer one question:

 

If I take a running kick with a force of 1000kg, with a 45 degree angle. Being 100% full of shit, how far will your fake resume take you?

 

 

Dubstep4life:

Kilograms are units of mass, not force dipshit. For that you would use Newtons if you want to go by the metric system. So yea, pretty fucking far since I actually know my physics.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_%28physics%29#Units_of_measurement

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Hahaha... 

 

pedo bear is right... 

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Yes you can do whatever you want...but if you get caught don't come pointing fingers at me or anybody here for that matter...

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There are cookies, bookies and too many rookies for me to sit here trying to be a hooky! Looky Looky don't call me a wooky. Touchy Touchy Feely Feely Spicy Spicy Nicey Nicey & that's what the doctor Ordered!!

 
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You are 23 from the States do a working holiday program with Japan, Korea, Taiwan, or Hong Kong if you want to go to Asia. Don't fake any part of your CV cause if you are caught it will most likely haunt you in every other job you apply for teaching or non teaching jobs.

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You shouldn't and in many other countries your previous employers will be checked out thoroughly enough that it wouldn't be worth the risk.  However, I've found that a lot of people here (locals particularly but also foreigners sometimes) do lie about past experience and the cursory background checks usually won't be sufficient to pick it up.  Depends on how professional your new employer is - if it's a massive enterprise you need to stick to the truth.  It might be better to see if you have relevant experience (from hobbies or helping out at uni for example), or the working holiday suggestion from brisguy would give you some experience too.  If you have nearly enough experience and meet all the other criteria a potential employer may still consider you.

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Well, you could and undoubtedly there are many people now working in China that have done exactly the same thing. However, you have to ask yourself if it is morally and ethically right to do so. As a teacher in China, you will encounter numerous incidences of cheating, plagiarism, dishonesty or just good old fashioned bare faced lying. Before getting on your high horse criticizing what you see, you should ask yourself if what you did was, in any way, morally superior to this behaviour. That is your choice to make.

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most training schools change your resume if necessary to get you hired and never tell you they did it.

in fact my resume was changed by a recruiter and you can pull up the fake resume on the internet thanks to their total disregard for privacy.

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That's bad.

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No why?

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You can and would get away with it. 

 

I'm pretty sure in a lot of cases this is par for the course. I have worked with some real cowboys in the past.

 

One of these jokers admitted to me one night that all his qualifications were fake. He didn't even have a bachelors degree. I later had a look at his certificates and they were laughably bad. The secret for him was to wear a suit and tie on all occasions. No one ever questioned him and indeed he was, and probably still is, praised for being very professional. 

 

It is not ethical and it would play on my conscience but you would by no means be alone faking information.

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Pretty sure any top level IB school is going to want to see some paperwork. Otherwise, yeah, I know a dude with an AA degree and a holistic medicine cert who makes twice as much as me.

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I reckon for teaching gigs quite a few people have lied about their previous experience just to fill up the 2 year requirement.. I knew one guy who didn't and he ended up working "illegally".. So I suppose being truthful can have it's downside

 

They don't go backing up the references at certain 'schools', like Disney English.

 

But for the most part I wouldn't bother, especially if it's a non-teaching gig, it could come to bite you back in the arse.

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yes, you can, but you should consider the possible results~~ Take care

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Most definitely! Lying is the key foundation to trust and respect in a business relationship. In any relationship, for that matter. You should lie about everything you possibly can.

 

By telling a lie, people won't notice that you don't actually have the experience you claimed to have. Or they will just think you are incompetent.

sam239:

So lying=clever, clever=smart, therefore lying=smart? I'd say clever~=smart and lying=stupid.

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Be our guest be our guest and put that Lie to the test. Don't get angry or cranky if the boss makes you confess....then they'll cheer and then you'll jeer and then all will hear about the one guy that had a fun time trying to break the laws with his own mess! 

 

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you only used 2 other accounts for points? this answer deserves more. cool

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i dont know many people who wanna make vacation in china. all people i know wanna go to thailand and japan, maybe south korea

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LOL China is not a hot tourist destination, and that's a strange and I imagine ineffective way to offer SEO services.

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I am assuming the OP is talking about a teaching job here.

 

@ the OP.

 

Before you lie to gain a job, ask yourself if that would be acceptable in your home country.

 

To use an extreme example, how would you feel if you discovered a doctor had lied about his qualifications to get a job, and that one of your relatives had died while under his incompetent care?   Over the top I know, but it does illustrate that by even considering lying you are not fully considering the consequences.

 

If you gain a job by lying you are putting yourself at the risk of being found out.  But you will also be putting your students at the risk of being given a substandard level of education than what they pay for.

 

I really think if you want to enter the any profession, then you should give that profession the respect it deserves and get yourself the required experience.

 

In the wrong run, you will feel better about yourself.

 

Some good ideas in the above answers as to how to go about getting that experience.

 

But....... remember it's possible to enhance your CV without actually lying surprise

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I suppose you could lie for some positions, but the good ones will check. At least mine did. 

Oh yea, dubstep sucks!

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Sure, but the shitty kind of school that accepts your bs resume is also likely to screw you back. 

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