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Q: Can my school have me blacklisted by the PSB/Safea?

My residence permit expired in July 2018 but my work permit expires in Januray 2019 ( I know it`s a strange case).

I worked there till my residence permit expired. I don`t know if my school could cancel my workpermit and have me blacklisted to safea/psb for future applications. I should not be working there anyway as I am on a tourist visa now.

5 years 31 weeks ago in  Visa & Legalities - China

 
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Yes, they can.

 

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How can I know if I am on Safea/ PSB blacklist. Again my visa residence permit expired in July 2018 so already expired but my work permit expires in January 2019. Technically am not allowed to work on a tourist visa.

icnif77:

You will most likely expirience problems at new application for Z visa/WP. Apply for the new legal employment in China and then you will know.

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dokken:

I would not work on a holiday visa long term. You need to find legal employment. I don’t think it’s possible to find out if you’re blAcklisted until you apply and are rejected

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I wouldn’t think they would want to draw attention to the situation. Blacklisting you is a shit load of effort. I don’t if this is true but I hear it would take hours of waiting, so an employer will do it only if you’ve really screwed them over 

alexusa:

am still working for them illegally on a tourist visa. the problem is if I leave they could cancel and have my workpermit blacklisted that is still active end januray 2019, my residence permit already expired

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KURAITENSA:

Hi! I (I'm new here) I know this is an old thread & you probably have all the answers by now, but,if you're working for an employer 'illegally' they're breaking the law too & will have a lot more to lose than you by bringing the situation to the attention of the authorities.

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Stiggs:

Kuraitensa.. yep, absolutely.

 

When you're hiring illegals who are doing god knows what in their spare time, you keep your head down and try not to draw attention to yourself.

 

Calling the PSB and telling them about the illegal, non English speaking, student visa conditions violating alcoholic whoremonger who pissed you off by leaving and taking 20 students to a competing school is only going to burn you.

 

No school needs that sort of attention.

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StMattTD:

Kuraitensa, you are wrong.  Let me explain why.

 

The punishment for employing illegal workers is up to and usually a 10,000 yuan fine.  In the cases I am familiar with all schools were fined around this, all they needed to do was not pay the illegal teacher their last month of salary.


All teachers were detained then deported with a reentry ban to China.  The consequences are much more severe for the teacher in almost all scenarios.  Whether your school hates you enough to report you themselves (I have seen it happen), is another matter.

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How can I know if I am on Safea/ PSB blacklist. Again my residence permit expired in July 2018 it was not renewed but my work permit expires in January 2019. Technically am not allowed to work on a tourist visa. How can I be blacklisted?

icnif77:

Here is the link:

 

https://answers.echinacities.com/question/address-safea-and-contact-numbers-different-provinces

 

Dial them and ask the Q! 

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