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Q: Can you work in China after an administrative detention?
A 'friend' of mine served an 8 day administrative detention in 2019 for fighting. He was not deported but worked in another job in Beijing. However, he later applied for a job in the same province as the detention but was refused a work permit (no reason given) and subsequently left China. Is it possible for him to work in China again? Thanks in advance.
2 years 12 weeks ago in Teaching & Learning - China
Nobody can tell you that except for the person with the same experience, i.e. detention survivalist.
I'd say, most likely your friend-o doesn't have a chance to get Working permit approved, butT ...
Yer friend-o can try and apply for the new position and you'll see the outcome. It doesn't cost much more, but fill it up few job applications ...
P.S.
You could maybe get better reply if you contact one of the western law agencies which deal with China. Out of my head try with ... Ever ... Can't remember the whole name of the Agency based in HK ... I'll remember eventually ... or maybe some poster can chip in ... Agency name starts with "Ever
Can't find it through search, butT ...
Read this post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TEFL/comments/7yc81g/chinese_visas_recruiters_a...
If you don't meet the requirements, there's probably some sketchy language mill in a Tier 5 city that will hire you on a tourist visa...but in the opinion of the China experts here and elsewhere in TEFL-world, this is a pretty risky proposition. Beijing's been clamping down on people teaching English illegally, the visa requirements are a lot more stringent than they were ten years ago, and if that weren't enough there's a bounty on your head. You risk deportation at any time (and getting banned from coming back for years afterwards), and because you'll be working under the table you have no recourse if your employer decides to screw you over. While some foolhardy souls will doubtless continue to teach English on a tourist visa, we'll leave them to their adventures and explore the legal option.
icnif77:
You can ask them the same Q with the most reliable answer:
https://chinavisaservice.com/contact-us/
"Foreverbright Trading" ... is the name of the HK visa agency ...
http://www.fbt-chinavisa.com.hk/index.html
Shot them a message and they'll reply to you about yer options ...
Nobody can tell you that except for the person with the same experience, i.e. detention survivalist.
I'd say, most likely your friend-o doesn't have a chance to get Working permit approved, butT ...
Yer friend-o can try and apply for the new position and you'll see the outcome. It doesn't cost much more, but fill it up few job applications ...
P.S.
You could maybe get better reply if you contact one of the western law agencies which deal with China. Out of my head try with ... Ever ... Can't remember the whole name of the Agency based in HK ... I'll remember eventually ... or maybe some poster can chip in ... Agency name starts with "Ever
Can't find it through search, butT ...
Read this post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TEFL/comments/7yc81g/chinese_visas_recruiters_a...
If you don't meet the requirements, there's probably some sketchy language mill in a Tier 5 city that will hire you on a tourist visa...but in the opinion of the China experts here and elsewhere in TEFL-world, this is a pretty risky proposition. Beijing's been clamping down on people teaching English illegally, the visa requirements are a lot more stringent than they were ten years ago, and if that weren't enough there's a bounty on your head. You risk deportation at any time (and getting banned from coming back for years afterwards), and because you'll be working under the table you have no recourse if your employer decides to screw you over. While some foolhardy souls will doubtless continue to teach English on a tourist visa, we'll leave them to their adventures and explore the legal option.
icnif77:
You can ask them the same Q with the most reliable answer:
https://chinavisaservice.com/contact-us/
"Foreverbright Trading" ... is the name of the HK visa agency ...
http://www.fbt-chinavisa.com.hk/index.html
Shot them a message and they'll reply to you about yer options ...
Very unlikely assuming the reason for the work permit rejection was his criminal record. It'll still be there.
Stiggs:
That's what I would have assumed too.
And then there's still the matter of the borders being mostly closed making it even harder to get into China.
icnif77:
You better stay in over there 'cause they won't let you return home ...
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/pregnant-35-year-old-reporter-forced-stay-kabul-after-her-home-country-new-zealand-denies
She/NZ-ealand-ish citizen was vaxxed 3-times, pregnant ... and can't enter NZ ...
LOLOL at comments ...
Tyberius: "The good news is she had more freedom in Afghanistan than New Zealand. The bad news is she will have to cook, clean and be a good quiet housewife". 
Zoroscum: "Jacinda is definitely hybrid - part horse, part mare." 
Daniel Morgan: "When the government of NZ makes the Taliban look reasonable ..."
what did your 'friend' do?
and why would 'your friend' still want to work in the same province?
icnif77:
I'd say, since all Working permit thingy is centralized, i.e. apply over the web, different province doesn't matter much ...
Only possible 'guanxi' applies through Peking ...
