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Q: Can your employer refuse to allow your girlfriend to live with you?

Can your employer refuse to allow your girlfriend to live with you in an apartment that they provide? I see no mention of it in my contract.

10 years 48 weeks ago in  Relationships - China

 
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yes they can and will , their responsible for your safety and security, the crazy girl cuts your throat and we dont have a teacher at our school and because your a foreigner we lose our permit to hire foreigners and no foreigners , no money, no business.

got tired of this and got my own place. some schools dont enforce this as much as others, dating a lady that works at your school can work sometimes better as long as you dont do classes together. good luck.
if you really want to piss them off though, go to the psp and add her as a fiance on your visa if she is not chinese. then they have to change their mind.

ou812:

We do both work for the same public school and we are both in our 40’s. She would prefer I move in with her, but my main problem with that is that my apartment is part of my compensation so unless they want to pay me the cash value of my rent and utilities then I will just stay where I am at. It’s not as big as her apartment but it’s brand new and off of school grounds.

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sometimes they having a housing allowance instead of apartment but its ridiculously low here in shandong , 600 rm or a 1000 rmb on most contracts. if you keep the place , your lady will probably think its for another lady to entertain. make sure she has a key to stop the arguement ahead of time.

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It depends, what is written in the Contract, I would say. 

 

At my previous Contract in Dalian, School rented apartment for me, but deducted monthly rent out of my salary. I had to pay utility bills separately at Collecting point. If I would miss utility payment, I would be cut off of electricity and water. I wouldn't accept suggestion from the School about 'how many persons live with me'.

 

My present Contract state I will receive salary, and free 2 bedroom apartment. School pays utility bills, too. By this Contract, IMO School would have rights to argue how many persons live in their apartment.

 

If your Contract is similar to my first example, you could quit your Contract (with Resignation notice), and School would be required to provide all necessary documents for Resident permit extension.

 

You could get detailed info about your Contract and apartment regulations at Foreign Expert Bureau in your city.

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icnif77, I live in such a small city that I doubt I could find out anything at any government office, this city is a bit like the wild west, if they wanted to they would just change the written rules while I was on my way to their office. I am the only native English speaker in a city of 500,000 most wouldn’t consider coming here, but I am getting kind of used to it and it is starting to become a bit like home to me. An unbelievably dysfunctional home, but still home. As for my contact this year’s simply reads “Party B could get free housing and utilities offered by … during party B tenure.” I wasn’t too keen on the “could” so I made them change that to “will get free housing and utilities.” in the contract already signed for next year. As I see it if they let her move in then it is maybe a net positive for my girlfriend who could possibly rent out the apartment she now lives in and the only downside to the school would be a small change in the cost of utilities. With regards to your two contracts I don’t see much difference other than you pay the utilities in on and not the other. If the money comes from your wages or paid by the school is fungible since it all comes from the school or whoever pays you. Unless you got to pick your apartment too, then maybe it’s a bit more your choice if others live with you. May I ask, what is the point of giving you a 2 bedroom apartment if you must live alone?

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I am not sure about the 'point', but I live alone in 2 bedroom apartment. For now. However, I am not required to live alone.

If I would be in the same position as you, I would offer them to cover up utility bills myself. Maybe, that's the reason they requested you live alone.

 

I wish my city would be as big as yours. Before I signed very good Contract, I look on the Internet for the size of my present city. It is written, my city has 1.1 M residents. Now, I am here, and this city doesn't have more than 20 000 residents. Chinese have issues with numbers, but I didn't think it will be that misleading. And I am not the only English teacher in the city, butt...guy from UK is leaving.

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Icnif77, How can there be 2 foreigners living in a town of 20,000 people? You must live in a nice coastal area or someone in your town has lots of money to spend on foreign teachers. As far as I know I am the only foreigner anywhere near here. I know exactly what you mean though about the numbers. Chinese numbering system is much different than ours which leads to a lot confusion; this along with the fact that they like to count everyone in the countryside as living in the town.

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Two Middle Schools and one Primary School. Brit is at one of the Middle Schools, and I am at the Primary School. Other Middle School has advert out, looking for an English teacher.

I am teaching grade 3 -6, and School's rep. told me, there is another English teacher coming (soon) from Urumqi. I am not sure, what grade he will teach, but there are no Kindergartens here. Maybe they are, but I didn't find it yet.

Brit and me, we both have similar Contract for about 100 000 Rmb per year, and free apartment (mine is brand new, and Brit has an old one). 

This is my best Contract since I am in China (4 Y).

This city is the furthest away from the Sea in China (2500 km). It is know by meteorite, and rare metals. Edit: Gov. is paying our wages (and more) to the School. There are three new openings for Foreign teachers, but none of the Schools would accept part-time teacher. Schools apparently making profit , when they hire Foreign teacher, so every School wants full-time teacher, sponsoring Z and all work. I could never understand, why School doesn't want to hire part-time teacher currently in the city. Because, School doesn't get financed by Gov., if teacher is employed part-time. School must pay part-time teacher out of the School's budget.

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No they can't! If they are telling you that then you should just move out on your own and get your own apartment. Problem solved!

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Excuse me Mr. Bayer, did you want to say something?

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There are cookies, bookies and too many rookies for me to sit here trying to be a hooky! Looky Looky don't call me a wooky. Touchy Touchy Feely Feely Spicy Spicy Nicey Nicey & that's what the doctor Ordered!!

 
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Just say yes, then have two or three girl move in with you. You can then say that none are your girl friends, but that it wasn't specified that you couldn't have women over. Plan B have some men move in and say the girl belongs to one of the other men, she's not your girl friend. Just confuse your boss, he'll be to lazy to think.

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I was lucky, and when I considered moving to Shanghai, I asked this question and was told no. In fact, I would have been subjected to the following rules:

1- No guests. male, female, family, friends, etc. NO ONE was allowed to visit the apartment.

2- All foreign teachers WILL live on campus housing.

3- All teachers, Foreign AND Chinese must be on campus by 10: 00 PM. If n ot, then they will  be locked out. Weekends, they can stay out until 11:00 PM.

4- Teachers may not spend the night elsewhere. If a teacher is found to not be at home, a 500 RMB fine will be deducted from  his monthly salary for each violation. (How on Earth they would enforce this, spot checking, phone calling, etc. is beyond me).

When I saw this, I went to Beijing instead.....

However, at least here they were upfront about it. Most other schools would keep most if not all of this secret and then stick it to you AFTER you have signed and moved in.

 

Scandinavian:

wow those rules are insane. I cannot believe anyone would treat adults this way or that anyone would agree to this

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Sounds more like a need to have control over the foreigner type of thing. I have seen this in several contracts in the past. If they refused to take it out, I just went elsewhere.

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