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Q: "China" on a CV not that impressive anymore for young workers?

Does a Chinese work experience give you an edge if you're competing with people who've stayed in your home country? Is it really seen as a sign of "intrepid initiative" or just an escapist way out for a job, with subsequently difficult-to-trace references and doubtful standings.

 

This is, of course, in the assumption that you've worked for a Chinese company or school or what not. Not an international firm who's sent you to China.

11 years 51 weeks ago in  Business & Jobs - China

 
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Depends how you write and explain your experience in China. If you write taught kids or adults then it dosnt sound impressive. If you explain you honed your communication skills, acquired a new language, patience then it looks impressive.

 

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I got home a week ago and had an interview yesterday. Their biggest concern was how did my experience in China help me grow professionally. Considering all my Chinese employers and co-workers were useless, I told them it taught me greater patience and coping skills. 

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I think it would depend on the person, the part of China, and the sort of job you're hoping to transition to.

 

If your experience in China has been  in an easy typical city doing time in a training centre, and that's it, if you used most of your spare time trying to get laid in expat bars, or you have nothing supplementary to point to a job interview, then I doubt China-time alone would be much help for most serious jobs. 

 

It can be useful if if you've worked in a role in China somewhat similar to the one you're applying for back home, if you can demonstrate a deep knowledge of the country and the language, if you'll be applying for a job in which the ability to thrive in the developing world in necessary, if you're applying to a company that does business with China... I'm sure there's loads of situations where having a year or two in China would be seen favorably. 

 

 

 

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My guess would be that it would depend on how your new job relates to what you did in China.  If there is no applicable work experience, then as an employer, I might give you points for thinking outside the box enough to seek employment in another country to broaden your horizons.

 

However, if you are under 30 and have all kinds of honors, accolades and experience on your resume beyond your years, then I would call everything into question and probably not hire you since I couldn't confirm your claimed experience.

 

Being able to speak Chinese is not really a bonus in most cases.  There are lots of local people (in my home country) that speak fluent Chinese and several different dialects to boot.  Plus they were raised in the culture and have potentially useful contacts.

 

So speaking the language alone, isn't really a plus.

 

However, if the job requires an adventurous spirit and an ability to adapt, then living in another country would be of a benefit.

 

But honestly, as an employer, I would tend to look unfavorably on most experience in other countries because of it 1) not being easy to verify and 2) not being in the same local corporate culture.

luggi:

you wanna tell me that experience in other countries as well as foreign languages are not a good thing and are 'questionable'? You are the first person I heard saying that... Usually it is the other way round and professionals say that studying abroad and learning new languages is most important to stay competitive in todays job markets...

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If you are in any 1st world country and you see that a person studied anything other than languages in another country, you as an employer, will most likely look down on that education when you compare it to a potential employee that was educated locally.

 

For example, if you are hiring for an entry level architecture position in the US and you have two new graduates where the only difference is the country they studied in, which would you hire?  The one who was educated in the US or the one that was educated in another country?  As an employer, I know what the education in my country is like.  I don't know what the education is like in the other country.

 

Now...  That said, there are situations where studying abroad is a good thing, but the number of situations (other than linguistics, food or art) where it is considered a solid plus, is less than that of an education in your home country.

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Depends what you did here. Teaching English isn't going to give you the edge back home unless you want to teach English to immigrants.

I was reading an article yesterday about this actually.  It only has any weight if you came and did a real job or internship in the field your degree was in or the field you want to work in.  There are a lot of Americans from Business and Economic related fields coming to China for internships and apparently it has helped some get jobs back home.  Companies that will be doing business in Asia, especially China, will obviously look favorably on those with work experience in China, but I dont think teaching English counts as useful work experience.  Would you hire someone who taught English in China for X number of years or someone who did an internship in a large corporation for 1 year? 

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As what the others said - but... for teaching English, there is the problem that 90%+ of students 'automatically' pass... not good!!!

 

Now, if you say you worked with an international co-operative university (in partnership with a uni from the west), then it might give you some credibility... but just teaching in general - probably not :(

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My expat friends who return to the US after more than two years in China, it pretty much goes this way:

 H.R. Interviewer:  "Graduated from a nice school, good. Had a nice  internship, good. Worked for two years,good. Then went to ...China?. Hmmm. I guess that's all for now, don't call us we'll call you! NEXT!!"

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As mentioned in other responses, it depends on how do you explain your experience, the kind of job you are applying for and your former position in China.

When you apply for a job related to international commerce, import-export, purchasing, project management..why should it be negative?

Nowadays companies like mobile people, and if you learned the language..that´s another plus.

Is all about how you sell yourself, personal branding, your own Marketing.

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Experience always counts for something. It doesn't matter what state the country is in now if you have overseas experience it translates to you being experienced in some way or another. Also, to an employee most of the times if you know a second language it's a plus. The reason being is because they can have customers of a certain nationality who can only speak one language so it's important to hire people that will understand them. 

 

If you put on your resume you worked in China it should still be something positive. 

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Great for a job in a call center. 

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my second wife from china insisted on changing her name to an english name while living in the states, her reason was nobody wanted her on the resume if they saw a chinese name because they would know all the information on the resume was a lie, in her case it was all a lie but another story for another time. divorced 5 years , still uses my name

makes you wonder what they teach for human resouces in chinese universities.

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I didn't come to China to benefit my CV, I came to China because my own parents have both passed away but my wife's family are still alive, therefore it made sense both socially and economically to relocate. I'm 50 years old, so I'm not overly concerned about adding to my CV. When we return to the UK in 9 years time, I fully expect it to be difficult to get another position, but that will be more due to my age than my CV.

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