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Q: China's suicide rate among world's highest?

Yang Fude, vice-president of Beijing Hui Long Guan Hospital, said China is the only country where suicides among women outnumber men.Why are so many Chinese women doing this is there no help or services in place?

11 years 35 weeks ago in  Health & Safety - China

 
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"is there no help our services in place"? Not sure what language that is...can't understand mumbo jumbo...first it was your vision and now your way of thinking has gone sour...

 

Show the article or it didn't happen.

TedDBayer:

Are you always this stupid or is today a special occasion,?, o yeah, it is, Dragon Boat festival. Have a good one.

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fish79:

Now i no why these are all women who have come into contact with you mattgayano

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mattaya:

you two remind me of the incredible duo "Beavis & Butthead"...lol! You've heard of them  before? 

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TedDBayer:

mattaya , why can't you be nice and join the group above posted? At least B&B were a hit show. Your stupidity just gets thumbed down. Why don't you post the really dumb question of the day..is mattaya the most entertaining person on echinacities answers, is everyone jealous and teasing him? See what answers you get.

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mattaya:

TedDbayer your the one that's supposed to comfort women....what you ain't doing your job properly....remember I buy you at the store for 5 kuai!

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TedDBayer:

i get women at the store for free now.

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tomcatflyer:

Mattay the reason so many people on here dislike you is because most of the time you talk complete crap and you criticize someone else because you cannot understand it. Some of your comments would baffle the interpreter onboard the USS Enterprise, and I don't mean the one that is floating around on the ocean.

You haven't even managed to quote the original question properly

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crimochina:

WU MAO-- FAIL!

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Yeah, a link would be good.

 

And, I wouldn't totally trust those stats - I'd guess there are many other countries where women are treated as absolute rubbish, where their suicide rate would be higher... and not so coincidentally, where the reporting rate would be much lower!

 

As for why here? Like in many countries, when the older generation has extremely high expectations of the younger generation, and the younger generation wants thins quite different, I could see a lot of troubled people in the world.. and here, women do actually have less social freedoms than in other places. So, the pressure to conform (and the tearing that results from personal desires to the fullfillment of family 'needs') would be huge!

 

After all - you only tend to hear the words "I'm a traditional Chinese" from girls, not from guys!

Thakkudu:

Link of the question.....

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-09/11/content_6095710.htm

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i dont think china suicide rate is anywhere near somalia death rate due to starvation....

 

Now and then there are suicides... but many foreign countries have higher rate than china for sure...

 

http://fathersforlife.org/health/who_suicide_rates.htm

 

 

fish79:

Suicide rates per 100,000 by country, year and sex (Table)

Most recent year available; as of 2011


CountryYearMalesFemales        
ALBANIA034.73.3        
ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA950.00.0        
ARGENTINA0812.63.0        
ARMENIA082.81.1        
AUSTRALIA0612.83.6        
AUSTRIA0923.87.1        
AZERBAIJAN071.00.3        
BAHAMAS051.90.6        
BAHRAIN064.03.5        
BARBADOS067.30.0        
BELARUS0748.78.8        
BELGIUM0528.810.3        
BELIZE086.60.7        
BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA9120.33.3        
BRAZIL087.72.0        
BULGARIA0818.86.2        
CANADA0417.35.4        
CHILE0718.24.2        
CHINA (Selected rural & urban areas)9913.014.8        
CHINA (Hong Kong SAR)0919.010.7        
COLOMBIA077.92.0        
COSTA RICA0910.21.9        
CROATIA0928.97.5        
CUBA0819.05.5        
CYPRUS087.41.7        
CZECH REPUBLIC0923.94.4        
DENMARK0617.56.4        
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC053.90.7        
ECUADOR0910.53.6        
EGYPT090.10.0        
EL SALVADOR0812.93.6        
ESTONIA0830.67.3        
FINLAND0929.010.0        
FRANCE0724.78.5        
GEORGIA097.11.7        
GERMANY0617.96.0        
GREECE096.01.0        
GRENADA080.00.0        
GUATEMALA085.61.7        
GUYANA0639.013.4        
HAITI030.00.0        
HONDURAS780.00.0        
HUNGARY0940.010.6        
ICELAND0816.57.0        
INDIA0913.07.8        
IRAN910.30.1        
IRELAND0919.04.7        
ISRAEL077.01.5        
ITALY0710.02.8        
JAMAICA900.30.0        
JAPAN0936.213.2        
JORDAN080.20.0        
KAZAKHSTAN0843.09.4        
KUWAIT091.91.7        
KYRGYZSTAN0914.13.6        
LATVIA0940.08.2        
LITHUANIA0961.310.4        
LUXEMBOURG0816.13.2        
MALDIVES050.70.0        
MALTA085.91.0        
MAURITIUS0811.81.9        
MEXICO087.01.5        
NETHERLANDS0913.15.5        
NEW ZEALAND0718.15.5        
NICARAGUA069.02.6        
NORWAY0917.36.5        
PANAMA089.01.9        
PARAGUAY085.12.0        
PERU071.91.0        
PHILIPPINES932.51.7        
POLAND0826.44.1        
PORTUGAL0915.64.0        
PUERTO RICO0513.22.0        
REPUBLIC OF KOREA0939.922.1        
REPUBLIC OF MOLDOVA0830.15.6        
ROMANIA0921.03.5        
RUSSIAN FEDERATION0653.99.5        
SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS950.00.0        
SAINT LUCIA054.90.0        
SAINT VINCENT AND THE GRENADINES085.41.9        
SAO TOME AND PRINCIPE870.01.8        
SERBIA0928.110.0        
SEYCHELLES088.90.0        
SINGAPORE0612.97.7        
SLOVAKIA0522.33.4        
SLOVENIA0934.69.4        
SOUTH AFRICA071.40.4        
SPAIN0811.93.4        
SRI LANKA9144.616.8        
SURINAME0523.94.8        
SWEDEN0818.76.8        
SWITZERLAND0724.811.4        
SYRIAN ARAB REPUBLIC850.20.0        
TAJIKISTAN012.92.3        
THAILAND0212.03.8        
TFYR MACEDONIA039.54.0        
TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO0617.93.8        
TURKMENISTAN9813.83.5        
UKRAINE0937.87.0        
UNITED KINGDOM0910.93.0        
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA0517.74.5        
URUGUAY0426.06.3        
UZBEKISTAN057.02.3        
VENEZUELA075.31.2        
ZIMBABWE9010.65.2

 

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fish79:

China is one country that more females than males take there own life....

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mattaya:

I knew this fish was just trying to troll...he's always trying to start things. Glad you shed the light for everyone to see that trolls true intentions...Fish learn how to study go back to school!

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tomcatflyer:

How the hell do you compare death by starvation caused by famine where you have no choice in the matter and suicide where you do. Just another ignorant comment, you and Mattaya should get together, or maybe you and he are the same already.

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Many women are faced with pressures to be married and are not, mostly women over 30.  Not all women are not treated that well here, beatings etc. Of the women I do know well here, a few always have bruises on them. My GFs ex-boyfriend beat her.

Poverty, lets face so many people are poor here. My dog has a better dog house than many people in China live in.

Pressure, depression all build up, hopelessness.

There is little help for mental problems here, it is looked down on,There are no shelters for battered women, no one will stop a husband from beating his wife in the street.

If it was easier for them to get a visa, I'd start a Chinese rescue service, I'd take all  the suicidal (most of which have met matt) women home. I'm sure I could cheer them up.We have therapy/ shelters at home.

mattaya:

I don't think somebody would want to go home with you in a therapy session afterall you did say you would take those girls bras off with your tongue....ill disgusting....and if you ever went to school you would know that the Democratic republic of Kongo is worst.

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TedDBayer:

You couldn't one up me ever. Your the dumbest poster on here, why do you bother, everyone hates you, or do you get off on being a shitdisturbor? You post 3 stupid questions everyday and then answer every post with stupidity. I've never stated my education level. Ever wonder why every post you make gets thumbed down? look up "stupid" in the dictionary, I'm sure that it's your picture shown. As for women, i think alot more like me besides your mama. EDIT comment not working, ---You can't get under my skin, like I said you're plain stupid and don't realize it. You bother everyone with your questions and answers, comments. You're so stupid.

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mattaya:

You will be ignored forever by me you are a waste of my time just don't add any more stupid comments under my answers.....and I'll do the same unless you are really like this and are trying to be a troll. I already let you know now I expect you to do the same. 

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tomcatflyer:

Just because the Congo, not Kongo, is worse in your eyes than China you seem to assume that excuses the behavior of all Chinese people. You are typical of the ignorant third world mentality that exists in some people here. It is people like you that holds China back and you are too stupid to even realize why that might be. How about trying to make China as good as some  of the best nations instead of just being please that there is at least one who is worse.

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Thakkudu:

may be i have not been to chinese country side/poor places... as what i have observed in big cities.. i have  witnessed girls shouting at boys more ... even beat them... hardly seen a boy beat a girl!...

 

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mattaya You're so stupid.

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Most countries.. yes.. men commit suicide more than women.... it seems only in china. its close or women more..

 

Doesnt that sound like men are women are more equal in china?... they are not the weaker sex anymore in china... 

crimochina:

suicide is a sign of weakness

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Thakkudu:

@Crimochina... does that mean all countries in the world.. men are weak? .. because men commit suicice more than women in almost all other countries other than china...

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if all chinese women dated a foreigner just once in their life i guarantee that suicides amongst women would drop drastically.  I'm a firm believer that good sex plays a more important role in peoples lives than we realize. especially for women. women's bodies are more hormonal that men. orgasms release chemicals and hormones into our bodies and we have yet to fully understand the effect. chinese men routinely do not bring women to orgasm , chinese men are probably the worse men in the world when it comes to sex and on top of it they restrict the sexual freedom and education of women. this is not a coincidence.

 

addnote: we have no clue as to what the real suicide rates are in china. 1. those types of numbers are considered state secrets. 2. chinese mentality: if the numbers look too high, change them. 3. if anyone read the article about the young girl that had 13 knife wounds but was ruled a suicide. (i do not know if they were stab marks or cuts. she may have been a cutter) but many murders are classified as suicides and many suicides are classified as accidents. (young foreigner who fell off the roof)

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highest suicide rate are in south korea than maybe japan and china.

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I think it has to do with nonsexual aspects of the gender roles. Chinese have a very rigid and traditional attitude toward relationships. People get married too quickly and there are too many loveless marriages. Chinese need to learn to wait, and learn to fool around a bit. I don't know exactly why, but Chinese are desperate when it comes to relationships. People don't move on, and they don't depend on each other as much as they should. Dating is just too formal and too much about impressing each other.

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wtf is up with fkn Lithuania ???

vodka, cold, and still bummed about the Nazi's & Soviet's making them their Beyotches ?

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One problem is certainly the question of sexual abuse. It happens here as it does anywhere else, but victims of sexual abuse are looked down on and thought dirty, as horrendous as that may sound. There are also no sources of counseling available to such victims and so they are left with their pain bottled up inside them, ashamed to speak out about it, and with no course of relief it undoubtedly gets the better of many people. This is an area where the Chinese have much to learn from western cultures.

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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/china-tech-factory-conditions-fuel-suicides-study-10929938

 

as the factories leave, will be interesting to see if the numbers go down accordingly.

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