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Q: Do Asian people have something like "yellow fever" for us?
NOT TO SOUND LIKE A CREEP, BUT...
I can't help but feel a strong romantic attraction for many east Asian people (certainly not South Asians like Indians though!), even sometimes older ones. There's something about their behavior, the way they move, the body type, and best of all the eyebrows that come down at a slant to the already slender eyes, that really catches me in a way I have never felt in my home western country. It's hard to define, but I've definitely got a case of "yellow fever".
So I'm curious if local people such as Chinese or Japanese or SE Asians feel the same. If so, what is it about us they find so irresistible?
9 years 36 weeks ago in Relationships - China
Hahahahahah.......a green card is absomarveliciously IRRESISTIBLE! Most of them anyway.
sam239:
I was asking about ones with genuine attraction to westerners, not the visa-chasing hookers. Is there the same "yellow fever" phenomenon with Asians as seems quite common in westerns (especially westerners men), especially westerns who are here?
sam239:
Okay, then what about Chinese in other countries. Or Japanese - after all Japanese actually prefer to stay in their country and aren't fleeing abroad. Do they have something like "yellow fever in reverse", or are all cases of "yellow fever in reverse" just looking for a ticket to greener climes, or perhaps a golden ticket?
louischuahm:
Let me put it this way. We were once a British colony. Since we were undeveloped, we see everything "white" (no color discrimination here) as rich, up there and lavish. Even middle aged women wanted to work in an English house as an ayi. It gave them some sort of face value (I don't know what). Fast forward to 2014 and today, local girls want to look good hanging on to an expat from the west. It used to be British, then Americans and in the 80s Aussies. Now, locals are more discerning, only whites with BMWs (not Mercs, they are for old uncles) need apply. So you see, China is going through exactly the same shit my country went through 50 years ago.
I dont know about Japan but I can say that women in Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines and probably Malaysia are still looking for whites to punch their tickets out of the country. They will do anything, I mean anything to get out. The moment they latch onto a white they won't let go. Perhaps that's why there is such as thing as "breaking off fee" here. If they can't get out, they might as well fleece you for one last time.
Long story short, developed countries will have lesser of such issues. It's those developing or underdeveloped countries where you will find such things. I am not thrashing the women there, neither do I look down upon them. They are doing their best to get on with life and if opportunities arise where they can skip town, they wouldn't hesitate. That's my take.
sam239:
Actually I have found differently in SE Asia, particularly with Thai women. The goal for the bad gold-diggers there seems to be a house and a car INSIDE of Thailand. Most Thais are quite happy inside their country and there doesn't seem to be the rush to find a ticket out, it's just the "bad women" are gold-diggers rather than visa chasers. And that's not to bash Thai women, most are fine but most that end up with foreigners are being manipulative. Also they have the "white worship" thing going on but were not colonized by westerns, the way it was explained to me is the manual laborers get dark skin from being under the sun, while the rich stay inside and thus have lighter skin, so lighter skin became a status symbol.
Anyways (maybe not so much for PH and CH) but most of these countries are nice enough that people can do well staying inside. Being tricky with a foreign boyfriend to use their body to get a visa is something a hooker b***h would do, I have no sympathy for it. Except for desperate situations but I think the vast majority of visa chasers/gold diggers are not of this sort, for myself I want a wife who would rather work hard in her own country than ride some foreigners' **** out the country.
But again I'm curious if besides the visa-chasing/gold-digger schemes, there is something like "yellow fever" (genuine attraction) but for westerns among Asians. Like what RobK says, "white washed": is there a Chinese word for that, and what exactly do these ones find so attractive/exotic about us?
louischuahm:
Western media sell a lot about western lifestyles. Movies portray women in beautiful settings, dresses, looking gorgeous all the time. They don't show the bad side of living in western countries. I'm sure most of the SE Asian women you know would like to visit Europe, USA and Canada. Thailand is about the only country that wasn't colonized. Although the French were there, they didn't make it part of their empire. Much of Indochina have been through wars, French, Japanese, Vietnam, etc. During the Vietnam war, American GIs use Bangkok as their R&R playground and with it came the western lifestyle exposure. Many Asians still think western people are rich. So, being able to land a Caucasian is a big thing. Marrying one would provide them for life, one would think. So, if you asked me, I'd say it's about material wealth and the lifestyle that these Asians perceive they will get. I concede that some Asians find westerners attractive but the majority just want to get out of poverty.
DrMonkey:
Hum... Yes, it exists a lot, but 99% is pushing it too far. My own experience is Vietnam and China. In Vietnam, it depends what circle of friends you have. My friends were educated abroad, the women are the independent, intellectual kind. Few are married with a white guy, although they knew plenty of them. After years abroad, they feel fine in Vietnam (good income, close to the people that matters to them), or live abroad... Without the need to be married for that, usually they got their PhD or master abroad, had very successful careers and are on the way to residency now. Guess what, most marry a fellow Vietnamese. My sample is about 50 people !
I know less Chinese people personally, but I see the same pattern. My wife never felt like living China. It's only because I want to live China and that she understand why, that she follows me. If she ever be manipulative, that would be to keep me in China ! Same goes with the few other girls I know. Those abroad are very educated ones, who are on residency due to hard work, not a wedding. And married to a Chinese... Some are married to a white guy, who have enough of a China and they go away. There are gold diggers, yes, but 99%, that's a gross insult.
louischuahm:
Dr Monkey@ I couldn't agree with you more. There appears to be some sort of pattern within Asia. However, you will note that most of the educated ones tend to marry locals and remain where they are. It's those poorer ones that are enticed by modern living and the material wealth that comes with it. Many local Chinese women I know feel that so long as they marry a rich husband nothing else matters. All they want is a better life and get out of poverty. So if a westerner comes along, it's even better because they can get out. In recent times, many of these women feel alienated in those countries they migrated to and want to return. Most of them feel disillusioned. I supposed when they grow older common sense prevails and they must be thinking that their earlier decisions were bad. In any case, they have much to learn.
sam239:
"Western media sell a lot about western lifestyles."
Oh I see, blame it on whitey. Very typical Singaporean mindset if I'm guessing right where you are from. And yes it is insulting to say 99% of local girls interested in westerns are just looking for a ticket out. Bottom line you didn't answer the question and ended up insulting decent eastern women, not that the sort you describe deserve any respect (most of the cases I've come across of obvious gold-diggers have not been ones who were escaping genuine poverty by the way).
maggiegirly:
@ louischuahm
Sorry,I don't agree with what you said:
"99% of them just want a pass out of this country. I have not met any swinging single local woman/girl who is not looking for a ticket out"
Myself, a Chinese woman who married an Aussie,we live in Australia at the moment cause my husband got a good offer here a while ago,that's the reason why we moved back.I know You speak mandarin very well as you are from Singapore.there's a Chinese saying"嫁鸡随鸡，嫁狗随狗“
I married my husband for true love,not for the FUCKING green card ,Sorry.I had a good job in China,I am educated and young too.in general I have a better life in China ,I am not saying my life in Australia is not good,it's still pretty good,It's just my preference,been living in OZ for over 1 year so far,I still wanna move back to China ,I miss a lot of stuff about China,of course,the good ones.
Actually,a lot of my friends and classmate's situation is similar to mine,they have no intention of marrying abroad for green card at all.
I must admit that some Chinese girls are like what you said,especially the ones who's over 35,too hard to find a guy especially the good ones.
expatlife26:
I concur with Dr. Monkey (and I love writing that)
I would also say that the most competitive local women tend to go for the most competitive local men.
You don't tend to see like for example a hot young lawyer at a great firm or a serious professional model slumming it with some sloppy uni teacher who works 14 hrs a week just cause he's white. Whiteness correlates with a certain degree of competitiveness (it signals a floor on poverty) but by itself doesn't move the needle as much as it seems. If you could take a bunch of unskilled Moldovan peasants and put them here in manual labor jobs with the same prospects they'd have at home, they would probably only do slightly better romantically than similar locals.
You do see really cool, desirable women here dating expats but they're usually expats who are doing or will soon go on to be doing interesting, exciting things with their lives. (no, not just rich...interesting). Basically cases where you have a guy/girl who are genuinely interested in each other and would match up well in any environment.
louischuahm:
Sam@ I respect your views and perhaps you may have different perspectives regarding this subject matter. My experiences were as such therefore I tell it as it is. You may find it insulting because our views differ. In any case, I stand by my experiences that most women who seek westerners usually want to get out of poverty. On your perception that I have a Singaporean mindset, I suggest we keep away from this line of argument. Where we come from is irrelevant. Best case scenario is that I agree to disagree with you.
Maggie@ Like you, I lived in Australia before, 3 years to be exact. It's a beautiful country to be in and I enjoyed my stay there. On the issue whether you married your husband for love or otherwise, I suppose you know best. I am not insinuating anything. Perhaps you are not used to the slow life on Australia and miss China's bustling lifestyle. Meantime, hope you enjoy the stay in Australia.
Victoria1987:
Because you met less valuable women in Asia.I Iike white men,but I am a little picky,I have refused a lot of white men in Shanghai already.Too short,too old,not good looking enough, not fun enough,or too narrow minded. But the truth is Chinese women find white men attractive,most of them have white fever.I know them.They might lie about it,but their eyes can not lie.lol But we all know most White men are better looking.Women like good looking men,men like good looking women.It is just a natural thing. China is the heaven for young white men.lol Haha...Today I just refused an American guy.lol
Hahahahahah.......a green card is absomarveliciously IRRESISTIBLE! Most of them anyway.
sam239:
I was asking about ones with genuine attraction to westerners, not the visa-chasing hookers. Is there the same "yellow fever" phenomenon with Asians as seems quite common in westerns (especially westerners men), especially westerns who are here?
sam239:
Okay, then what about Chinese in other countries. Or Japanese - after all Japanese actually prefer to stay in their country and aren't fleeing abroad. Do they have something like "yellow fever in reverse", or are all cases of "yellow fever in reverse" just looking for a ticket to greener climes, or perhaps a golden ticket?
louischuahm:
Let me put it this way. We were once a British colony. Since we were undeveloped, we see everything "white" (no color discrimination here) as rich, up there and lavish. Even middle aged women wanted to work in an English house as an ayi. It gave them some sort of face value (I don't know what). Fast forward to 2014 and today, local girls want to look good hanging on to an expat from the west. It used to be British, then Americans and in the 80s Aussies. Now, locals are more discerning, only whites with BMWs (not Mercs, they are for old uncles) need apply. So you see, China is going through exactly the same shit my country went through 50 years ago.
I dont know about Japan but I can say that women in Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines and probably Malaysia are still looking for whites to punch their tickets out of the country. They will do anything, I mean anything to get out. The moment they latch onto a white they won't let go. Perhaps that's why there is such as thing as "breaking off fee" here. If they can't get out, they might as well fleece you for one last time.
Long story short, developed countries will have lesser of such issues. It's those developing or underdeveloped countries where you will find such things. I am not thrashing the women there, neither do I look down upon them. They are doing their best to get on with life and if opportunities arise where they can skip town, they wouldn't hesitate. That's my take.
sam239:
Actually I have found differently in SE Asia, particularly with Thai women. The goal for the bad gold-diggers there seems to be a house and a car INSIDE of Thailand. Most Thais are quite happy inside their country and there doesn't seem to be the rush to find a ticket out, it's just the "bad women" are gold-diggers rather than visa chasers. And that's not to bash Thai women, most are fine but most that end up with foreigners are being manipulative. Also they have the "white worship" thing going on but were not colonized by westerns, the way it was explained to me is the manual laborers get dark skin from being under the sun, while the rich stay inside and thus have lighter skin, so lighter skin became a status symbol.
Anyways (maybe not so much for PH and CH) but most of these countries are nice enough that people can do well staying inside. Being tricky with a foreign boyfriend to use their body to get a visa is something a hooker b***h would do, I have no sympathy for it. Except for desperate situations but I think the vast majority of visa chasers/gold diggers are not of this sort, for myself I want a wife who would rather work hard in her own country than ride some foreigners' **** out the country.
But again I'm curious if besides the visa-chasing/gold-digger schemes, there is something like "yellow fever" (genuine attraction) but for westerns among Asians. Like what RobK says, "white washed": is there a Chinese word for that, and what exactly do these ones find so attractive/exotic about us?
louischuahm:
Western media sell a lot about western lifestyles. Movies portray women in beautiful settings, dresses, looking gorgeous all the time. They don't show the bad side of living in western countries. I'm sure most of the SE Asian women you know would like to visit Europe, USA and Canada. Thailand is about the only country that wasn't colonized. Although the French were there, they didn't make it part of their empire. Much of Indochina have been through wars, French, Japanese, Vietnam, etc. During the Vietnam war, American GIs use Bangkok as their R&R playground and with it came the western lifestyle exposure. Many Asians still think western people are rich. So, being able to land a Caucasian is a big thing. Marrying one would provide them for life, one would think. So, if you asked me, I'd say it's about material wealth and the lifestyle that these Asians perceive they will get. I concede that some Asians find westerners attractive but the majority just want to get out of poverty.
DrMonkey:
Hum... Yes, it exists a lot, but 99% is pushing it too far. My own experience is Vietnam and China. In Vietnam, it depends what circle of friends you have. My friends were educated abroad, the women are the independent, intellectual kind. Few are married with a white guy, although they knew plenty of them. After years abroad, they feel fine in Vietnam (good income, close to the people that matters to them), or live abroad... Without the need to be married for that, usually they got their PhD or master abroad, had very successful careers and are on the way to residency now. Guess what, most marry a fellow Vietnamese. My sample is about 50 people !
I know less Chinese people personally, but I see the same pattern. My wife never felt like living China. It's only because I want to live China and that she understand why, that she follows me. If she ever be manipulative, that would be to keep me in China ! Same goes with the few other girls I know. Those abroad are very educated ones, who are on residency due to hard work, not a wedding. And married to a Chinese... Some are married to a white guy, who have enough of a China and they go away. There are gold diggers, yes, but 99%, that's a gross insult.
louischuahm:
Dr Monkey@ I couldn't agree with you more. There appears to be some sort of pattern within Asia. However, you will note that most of the educated ones tend to marry locals and remain where they are. It's those poorer ones that are enticed by modern living and the material wealth that comes with it. Many local Chinese women I know feel that so long as they marry a rich husband nothing else matters. All they want is a better life and get out of poverty. So if a westerner comes along, it's even better because they can get out. In recent times, many of these women feel alienated in those countries they migrated to and want to return. Most of them feel disillusioned. I supposed when they grow older common sense prevails and they must be thinking that their earlier decisions were bad. In any case, they have much to learn.
sam239:
"Western media sell a lot about western lifestyles."
Oh I see, blame it on whitey. Very typical Singaporean mindset if I'm guessing right where you are from. And yes it is insulting to say 99% of local girls interested in westerns are just looking for a ticket out. Bottom line you didn't answer the question and ended up insulting decent eastern women, not that the sort you describe deserve any respect (most of the cases I've come across of obvious gold-diggers have not been ones who were escaping genuine poverty by the way).
maggiegirly:
@ louischuahm
Sorry,I don't agree with what you said:
"99% of them just want a pass out of this country. I have not met any swinging single local woman/girl who is not looking for a ticket out"
Myself, a Chinese woman who married an Aussie,we live in Australia at the moment cause my husband got a good offer here a while ago,that's the reason why we moved back.I know You speak mandarin very well as you are from Singapore.there's a Chinese saying"嫁鸡随鸡，嫁狗随狗“
I married my husband for true love,not for the FUCKING green card ,Sorry.I had a good job in China,I am educated and young too.in general I have a better life in China ,I am not saying my life in Australia is not good,it's still pretty good,It's just my preference,been living in OZ for over 1 year so far,I still wanna move back to China ,I miss a lot of stuff about China,of course,the good ones.
Actually,a lot of my friends and classmate's situation is similar to mine,they have no intention of marrying abroad for green card at all.
I must admit that some Chinese girls are like what you said,especially the ones who's over 35,too hard to find a guy especially the good ones.
expatlife26:
I concur with Dr. Monkey (and I love writing that)
I would also say that the most competitive local women tend to go for the most competitive local men.
You don't tend to see like for example a hot young lawyer at a great firm or a serious professional model slumming it with some sloppy uni teacher who works 14 hrs a week just cause he's white. Whiteness correlates with a certain degree of competitiveness (it signals a floor on poverty) but by itself doesn't move the needle as much as it seems. If you could take a bunch of unskilled Moldovan peasants and put them here in manual labor jobs with the same prospects they'd have at home, they would probably only do slightly better romantically than similar locals.
You do see really cool, desirable women here dating expats but they're usually expats who are doing or will soon go on to be doing interesting, exciting things with their lives. (no, not just rich...interesting). Basically cases where you have a guy/girl who are genuinely interested in each other and would match up well in any environment.
louischuahm:
Sam@ I respect your views and perhaps you may have different perspectives regarding this subject matter. My experiences were as such therefore I tell it as it is. You may find it insulting because our views differ. In any case, I stand by my experiences that most women who seek westerners usually want to get out of poverty. On your perception that I have a Singaporean mindset, I suggest we keep away from this line of argument. Where we come from is irrelevant. Best case scenario is that I agree to disagree with you.
Maggie@ Like you, I lived in Australia before, 3 years to be exact. It's a beautiful country to be in and I enjoyed my stay there. On the issue whether you married your husband for love or otherwise, I suppose you know best. I am not insinuating anything. Perhaps you are not used to the slow life on Australia and miss China's bustling lifestyle. Meantime, hope you enjoy the stay in Australia.
Victoria1987:
Because you met less valuable women in Asia.I Iike white men,but I am a little picky,I have refused a lot of white men in Shanghai already.Too short,too old,not good looking enough, not fun enough,or too narrow minded. But the truth is Chinese women find white men attractive,most of them have white fever.I know them.They might lie about it,but their eyes can not lie.lol But we all know most White men are better looking.Women like good looking men,men like good looking women.It is just a natural thing. China is the heaven for young white men.lol Haha...Today I just refused an American guy.lol
We have nose bridges and non-pan flat face and the fact that most of us are Movie Stars.
Yes, of course. Haven't you met Vicky?
Victoria1987:
No worries.You will definitely out of my league.You small minded crazy men.I guess ur average looking.
Yes, it does exist in reverse.
Some Asian women will ONLY date white men exclusively. It is called "white-washed".
They just think Western men look more masculine or prominent. And they calls those girls "bananas" I am sure you can guess why...
But anyway, it is a phenomenon.
Victoria1987:
If both of ur are not white,I will take both of u are jelous of white men.If not,both of u r losers in ur small world with women
I've discussed this alot with friends both on here and in real life. I think in some cases yes, there are some women who are specifically into white guys but it's a much smaller percentage of the whole than either "loser" local guys or expats might think.
My theory is you take the objective 'stats' of just a modest western expat (so neither a fat old creeper or a handsome young go getter, say an average mid-late 20s ESL guy) and give them to a local guy and that guy will have just as good prospects as the expat if not better just for fluency in language alone. Show me a 178 cm 77KG chinese guy, who has a foreign passport, international education and established family in a developed country. A guy who is in his 20s and can make 10K+ in salary and has double fold eyelids and a "high bridged nose" (whatever the hell that means). I'll show you a guy who has great dating prospects.
Being poor in china (or anywhere) is fucking horrible you know? I don't think it's as much of getting excited over a green card as just getting excited over potentially having a more interesting, comfortable life. I bet in a regression model on male attractiveness here the variable that really moves the needle is "not really poor" much more so than "white" its just that "white" almost always goes along with "not really poor". This is a pretty cliquey place and an isolated culture, i don't really see why a Chinese girl who is competitive for more desirable Chinese guys would throw herself at a white "loser" over someone from their own culture. It's tough to tease out the signal from the noise in statistics, but I think a lot of the advantage western men have in dating here would be present in any culture poorer than our own.
Most of the cool (more sophisticated, smart, mannered etc. as somebody else summed up "The girls you don't have to lean on to shave their armpits") Chinese women I know that are dating expats are dating guys who would be competitive in the west. And those guys had to compete with local men with legit prospects of their own. So I think Maggiegirl up there is right to be kinda pissed off at the statement that all chinese girls are just green card whores. Total bullshit. There are tons of women in China who would look at the objective stats I described before and think that guy is a total bum.
Yeah of course some women here are going to have a real preference for white guys...and they're entitled to their preference just like we all are. But a lot of the perception that expats get that "we could get any girl we want" is just a trick of the math. The ratio of women who either have a preference for white men and/or find the prospects of even a modest american to be competitive to white men is very high. It could be like 3% of total young women who would get into a relationship with an expat at all and the numbers are still skewed in favor of expats.
Local guys bitching about white guys stealing all the women is similar to white guys back home bitching "all the girls just want black guys". Statistically not true...but it's an easy excuse to throw all the blame off yourself. Blaming another race comes a little bit before "all girls are gold diggers" in the loser's excuse rolodex. You might be a little to blame for being poor but your race is totally outside your control. But the excuses will go on forever and probably never get to "all girls can see i'm a loser and I need to really work to change"
Stiggs:
I think you sum it up well there.
A Chinese friend who married foreign guy (also my friend) told me once that it was nothing to do with his nationality, if anything that gets in the way with cultural issues and both parties having family and roots in different countries.
She said she was attracted by;
his maturity compared to the average local guy his age
his level of independence -making his own decisions, not having his mother do everything for him and his father buy him everything
his honesty and integrity- he's not the type to cheat on his wife with KTV girls or try to steal money from his boss, cheat people with money etc.
The fact that he doesn't smoke, spit, pick his nose in public etc.
I think him being tall, well built and usually well dressed helped too.
expatlife26:
Right,
Sounds like a solid guy with something going for him.
He's probably more likely to be that as a westerner but it doesn't sound like that girl just wouldve knelt down for any lame white guy.
coineineagh:
I'd say this isn't true. I came to China an average, nearly penniless 30yo, and had plenty of options and interest. China has a bad case of commodity fetishism, and men are also objectified. How exactly white guys get valued so highly isn't exactly clear, but they do. You can offer "English lessons" to the hottest girls in town, and you will not be immediately dismissed.
expatlife26:
Hey coin, good to see you again.
You may be right, but i'm gonna say again that could still be the numbers game working in your favor. I also remember you saying that you are very tall so maybe not quite average, and you also still had good prospects. You might feel like just an average joe in the west but you are still light years ahead, even in superficial terms, than your average zhou in small city China.
I speak mostly though not entirely from a big city perspective so I do know that it's different in the smaller place you've lived. It could be the chinese guys who fancy themselves hot shit are the types you call "very impotent possums" and so small minded and foul that any girl living a life of the mind wouldn't give them the time of day had she the option.
In Philippines, some young women (20's) like dating old men from Western countries (50's-60's). I think it's not a genuine attraction. It's either an escape from poverty or just a matter of dominant/recessive genes.
In Philippines, some young women (20's) like dating old men from Western countries (50's-60's). I think it's not a genuine attraction. It's either an escape from poverty or just a matter of dominant/recessive genes.
sam239:
The question is about the ones with genuine attraction (if there are any, and I'll go ahead and answer yes there are). Is it like westerns are a kind of exotic?
TedDBayer:
Filipino women are very nice, they really treat a man well. Thailand women like to catch foreigners as a way out of poverty, but having a foreign husband is a status symbol and she isn't looked down on for marrying one, unlike in China where everyone is a cheap petty gossip. China can really suck.
Hey Vicky ,
do you want to get this one ?
Victoria1987:
But I do have a white fever.White boys just look so cute.But at the same time,I am a bit picky among white guys as well.lol
Mr_spoon:
Vicky, when you try to get laid at a Burger King, you can't afford to be picky...
Victoria1987:
lol...You are not damn rich though.Do not insult guys eat lunch in burger king.I know a guy make 8000USD Dollars,but still eat in burger king.I eat in burger king and expensive resturant.Why would us spend all money on eatting expensive food when we can save it on others?Stop being stupid PS.My boss is rich,but he spends only less than 20rmb for lunch.lol.I found some ppl who are not really rich start laughing at ppl's cheap lunch.But some rich ppl eat cheap as well.lol.So funny. PS:You have no idear about how much i make. I remember a story my mum told me.She dressed in cheap cloth and went out to buy yhings in grocery store.And the sales did not want my mum to tough the more expensive one because she throught my mum is a poor lady.lol.But God know how much money my mum can make.lol I was just laughing when my mum was talking. My big sister criticized me to spend 50rmb on taxi.But she got workers work for her.lol We Chinese has a saying:Do not show your wealth when ur out alone for security. Lol??? Haha. ..If you think I am poor.Keep think of that.lol.I do not mind... Plus it is not a good morality to laugh ppl who might be really poor.That is mean.Mr-spoon
Mr_spoon:
Vicky, you do realize that I was mocking your personality, and not your financial situation, right? Also, I'm a student and I love cheap junk food. Sorry to make your rant obsolete.
coineineagh:
oh, Vicky misunderstoof the 'can't afford' part, and thought it was a sneer about her wealth, forcing her into Chinese facesaving mode. Classic. It reminds me of when I first told my future wife-to-be: "I can't wait to see you again." She never heard the expression, took it literally, and replied: "So you are breaking up with me?" 'CAN'T WAIT', get it? Took me a while to figure out her reaction myself...
Victoria: you know me??? Actually I think I don't know any girls who fit your profile. Is Victoria the name you go by?
And can you say more about your attraction for "white boys"?
I already said my attraction for the "people of the east", such as: body type (typically smooth and slender), politeness/gracefulness in behavior (well not all certainly), and especially the slanted eyebrows that come down and hit the already slender eyes, whoa that's exotic. But of course outward beauty isn't what makes a person truly attractive, it's the heart that counts!
Mr_spoon:
Don't mind Vicky. Her mind and body are on separate planes of existence.
Victoria1987:
Haha...Sam.You are trying to insult me?lol..One Australian guy insulted me after i refused him.Do u want to act like him as well?
No Vicky, not trying to insult you. Just curious about some full description of what attracts "people of the east" (either male or female) towards being "white-washed". For me, I gave the best description I can of what I find rather exotic about "people from the east" (again the biggest being the eyelashes coming down at a slant, not parallel, it has a mystic charm to me). So I was asking for input on what locals who are attracted to "gweilos" find so attractive.
expatlife26:
Dude I don't know what answer you're looking for. haha are you just fishing for compliments?
I think Stiggs gave a good rundown of what a girl liked in her western boyfriend, which was basically just a certain degree of maturity you don't tend to find in local guys of the same age. victoria just said in general she finds white guys 'cuter'...me being a boring analyst I tried to break down the numbers game.
It's pretty much common knowledge that white people tend to hit a few checkboxes of attractiveness here by default. Light skin, high bridge nose, big eyes etc.
Haha are you waiting for some girl to give you a sensual rundown of everything she wants in her dream white boyfriend?
sam239:
Nah I was just trying to see if there is something particularly exotic, like the eyebrows. And I don't mean to make local women sound like they're aping for western men, in fact most of my girl Chinese friends seem quite happy with their local boyfriends. But there's a minority in the west that have the "yellow fever" (perhaps a majority among westerns here) so I figured there must be the same here, and so I asked about characteristics. Sounds like the question has been answered, thanks for pointing it out.
I'd say definitely, though, like "yellow fever", it's complicated. It's part physical. It's not so much "Asian" people, but "yellow" people that is, the attraction is based on physical features, not the culture, and wouldn't necessarily be attracted to an Asian person of a different race/color (like a white Japanese, or brown Chinese).
There is also the actual attraction to the culture, sinophilia or Japanophilia, for example. If someone is obsessed with the culture of China or Japan, they would likely also have an attraction to the people.
In reverse, it's the same deal. The West is seen as exotic to many Chinese, or East Asians in general, British, Australian, American, and other Western cultures are only known through movies. Being a person from one of those countries would make someone seem more interesting.
Also, just like with yellow fever, white fever (or brown, or black) exists, where the attraction isn't so much on the country of origin, but on the physical features. Simply by looking different than 95% of the people would make someone stand out and attract attention.
I probably had a bit of yellow fever when i was young, though it has mellowed over the years. i appreciate beauty of all kinds, ages, races, colours. It's widely known, even scentifically proven, that Asians are attracted to 'white' features, like light skin and big thin noses. The white male - chinese female combo seems to be a result of the culture here, worshiping wealth and power, which whitey gets as an unspoken legacy, regardless of actual wealth and power. It's about appearances, and chinese girls love the *appearance* white men generate. We're also relatively rare here, creating added celebrity status. but chinese girls abroad are more approachable than you might imagine, as long as you fit their criteria. It's about your face value, and local xenophobes discourage interracial coupling by appealing to the same face concept, insinuating that a girl loses face by dating a white guy.
When considering what is "true" attraction, it's hard to differentiate financial motivation with no-ulterior-motive charisma/appeal in money-worshiping China. Also keep in mind that Chinese are very utilistic about their sexuality. Women engage in sex to attract a partner, and because men seem to like it. No woman openly admits to having, wanting, seeking out orgasms. Sex is for starting a family, and parents would be cheated if it doesn't lead to marriage. Obsession about virginity is practically medieval here, but fits perfectly with local sex education levels. Let them believe vigins are the best lay if they like. I don't engage in sex as a competitive sport, or a face-gaining exercise. I enjoy it.
Some just want to have a taste! (seeing as the opportunity is there ! )
If someone is not racially discriminating you, and you are a nice person/attractive looking why would they not be interested in you?
Hasn't every white guy had Chinese women come up and touch your face and rub your arms? Chinese can have an innocent curiosity. I don't think people touch what repulses them.
Just once I'd like one to just walk up and grab mine and tell me her name is Lisa.
I had Italian fever before when I was a teenager.
Now I think any "fever" is childish 
I have dated and been with Australian women my whole life. Until 3 years ago. I came to China and found a different point of view and culture. The women are vastly different in standards and beliefs here and frankly I am more compatible with Chinese women than Australian.
It's not yellow fever it's preference.
To answer your question. I do believe that 'white fever' exists. I can walk in to any bar or any fricken mall for that matter and people die for me. I'm different. I have a nice complexion by their standards and I am tall. That is just preference. It is also a product of their media.
To answer the original question, first of all i'd like to point out that any type of preference as such would be based on generalizations, some may be true but others not. So for them we;
- Are taller ( true before, but that was due to warfare selection where the tall goes to fight and die, happened in Europe too before, now there difference is equalizing)
- Are more creative
- Are more romantic
- Are cleaner
- Are more prone to be loving and talk things through to establish a more equal relationship rather than have an abusive relationship ( in one way or the other)
- Are Big..r
- Are more muscular
- Are whiter ( something deemed positive)
A number of other reasons they might find but lt's stop here
As I said before those are generalization, I don't feel particularly tall for example just above average. Also I've seen fat small stupid unimaginative person all over the US, or dirty people, etc ...
I would like to point out that some at least Do hold true, and that helps to reinforce the stereotypes, but other things that might add to it are the adventure and exotism.
Also while some "fever" may happen, you would in the end like an individual, and they may be completely different from your 'fever preferences" ( like for me, love blue eyed redhead with a sweet body -> having chinese
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