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Q: Do you get invites...

... often from your students to dinner or other social things? Is it rude to turn them down? Especially if they ask for the same day?

12 years 28 weeks ago in  Culture - Chengdu

 
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I get them daily and turn them down 99% of the time... Some say i am jaded but in truth I really feel that the students are somewhat disingenuous, we're like a status symbol and they simply like to go out and be seen with a "foreigner" at least that's how I feel because I've had mixed experiences ranging from a group of us go out and they talk Chinese all the time (now not a problem for me but 4 years ago it still was) which of course is rude, then to them deciding over dinner to talk like wenna7 and godedenfaisse (slam the whitey time), to the look at me I'm so rich ones and last but not least the "surprise I'm having a company lunch try to look like you work for my company or you do business with us, I will pay for lunch/dinner... So no I don't go anymore... Plus they think you owe them something after as well. I swear colleagues purposely go to KTV knowing most of us hate it too...

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Sometimes the parents of my students ask me to babysit them. For realz

HugAPanda:

Oh dear christbuddhaallahetc. I charged 10 USD an hour when I was babysitting 25 years ago. I'm not doing it now for a slurpee in China.

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Thanks, Njord. I teach here in the states, and I would never consider hanging out with my students socially because it may leave the impression of favoritism. One of the teachers at one of the school's I'm considering in China says she has on average 60 kids in her four classes. There is no way I would want.... 200 dinner dates while in China. When would I go hug the glorified raccoons? Tongue

Njord:

So you're heading to Chengdu then?

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HugAPanda:

I am 99.9 percent sure I'm going. I thought Beijing at first, but for my first time, the "laid back lifestyle" and the pandas and Pete's tex mex with the fabulous ice cream has pretty much cemented my decision for Chengdu.

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Njord:

I've always wanted to go there but I can't seem to find a gig that pays more than 12-13000 RMB... :(

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HugAPanda:

I've inquired to three places so far, including one university. I've been offered a bit more than that if I come "right now!" which is impossible because I'm working here. But I'm actually considering one of the primary schools because the company is Western run, includes a western style apartment on campus and will provide me a TA and translator/guide for my personal time as I chose, plus mandarin classes. Which, to be honest, for a first timer it's a good deal and I'm only planning one term for now to test the waters. But it is for considerably less than what you are looking for. Plus, I have friends and colleagues that have worked for this firm and have had no problems. It'll be fun working with little kids instead of spoiled rich kid/adults for a change

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sunnyanna86:

Chengdu is awesome! You won't find super high paying jobs, but it's worth it cause it's a sweet city with friendly people and amazing food. Plus, it's really cheap to live there.

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Going with HugAPanda and Njord on this one. They can be weird if you do socialize with them, and it is really creepy and uncomfortable where I come from. I'd expect a teacher in Canada to be fired for fraternizing with adult students, even.

I've had adult Chinese students who've seemingly signed up for English lessons just to make foreigner friend, and I am really not the social, extroverted person they demand foreigners to be. I can put on the whole minstrel show act in the classroom, for money, but in my free time, I want peace and quiet.

Once I taught this one dude who said he worked for playboy magazine, and changed his English name every class (LADY GAGA, SANTA CRAUS, MICHEAR JACKSON, etc. hilarious). He always screamed at the top of his lungs, and insisted on side-tracking every class with his favourite prostitute stories, or by randomly screaming swearwords like he had tourette's, then giving me that goddamn "give me a compliment" face Chinese guys do.

Don't get me wrong, I've been known to use some pretty flippin naughty language in my time, but at work, in the classroom... There were ladies there who really didn't want to hear him blab about how his underage hooker had "so fucking cool tittie"

Dude just wanted a sleazy foreigner friend to be sleazy and kind of gay with. When he caught onto the fact that I hated him and didn't want to talk to him outside of the classroom, he flipped out at the boss and said my class wasn't "conversational" enough. Worst teaching experience of my life.

Njord:

Was his name "Rocky" I had a guy just like that!! is name was Rocky, but his story was he was American special forces...

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I think it depends on the students who are inviting you, whether to accept or not. I think it's totally fine to go to dinner or KTV or something with students. If you're teaching university students, you're probably just a few year older than them so they're technically your peers. There are a few of my students who have become good friends, and we hangout sometimes outside of class. It's great because I'm learning a lot about the culture and language and city from them.

It's also fine to decline an invitation. Your students will understand. Definitely say no if the they are kind of weird/creepy or if they have ulterior motives (like they want you to favor them).

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I appreciate invites in advance more, and am less likely to turn those down...

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