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Q: Do you pronounce the T in often ?

thought I would start the year off with a bang
I can here your teeth grinding from here
let the games begin

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No! Why would I do that?

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No! Why would I do that?

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Good questions are rarity these days.

Yes, always when I'm online here: 'e-China-ti-tti-es'  angel try slowly....'e-Ch.....'

 

I might have a 'gift': dyslexia 

philbravery:

yes you a right good questions are a rare these days and this one is no exception to the rule . im board so thought i would throw a fire cracker into the esl arena

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'This Q is an ex-pec-tion'angel somebody very famous once saidsurprise.

 

'If you are bored, you might want to board the Cruise liner by walking on your arms' another famous 'gram-mer-natzi' spouted

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looks like my fire cracker is a dud

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I like to stay here, because I can hear (music) better....

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philbravery:

Sky rockets in sight .....afternoon delight broken heart lol

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icnif77:

Bekaa Valley .....

Rockets always happened, when Arafats try to 'teach' Yiddish.....to Native Israelis.

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Nope. It's a secondary pronounciation, according to mostdictionaries...

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Yes (but unlike the Chinese, I do not pronounce the 'r' in usually).

mArtiAn:

Or lovely. "Waiter, this chicken is rubbery." "Oh, fang you! All our chigin is rubbery!"

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You should soften the t in often.

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No, not offen.... Tongue

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It doesn't matter, I don't think.  But not many people do.  Now I think of it I think my grandmother used to.

How about H?

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same as do you pronounce whip ? hwip or wip ?

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8 out ofTen!

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The word 'often' was pronounced with a t-sound until the 17th century, when a pronunciation without the (t) came to predominate in the speech of the educated, in both North America and Great Britain, and the earlier pronunciation fell into disfavor. Common use of a spelling pronunciation has since restored the (t)
for many speakers, and today (ô′fən)
and (ôf′tən)
[or (of′ən)
and (of′tən)
exist side by side. Although it is still sometimes criticized, often with a (t)
is now so widely heard from educated speakers that it has become fully standard once again

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My 8th grade English teacher scolded me about pronouncing the "t". Since I was a curious lad, I went over and grabbed the dictionary to see what it said about it. At the time (early 80's) it mentioned both are correct to use. I showed her, but since she was an arrogant know it all, told me the dictionary was wrong...that no "t" is heard. angry

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