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Q: Do you think chinese children are badly behaved?

I d be a great teacher if kids were all well behaved or at least mostly manageable. But the image I had of obedient chinese kids I had did not materialize and instead I find 30 to 40 percent of my kids test my classroom management every minute of class time. It's the reason I will never teach esl again after I finish this month. 

 

Whilst I fully blame my bad classroom management skills for failing to keep order in some of my classes I wonder if esl teachers have a view about how chinese kids behaviour compares to back home. For instance I have never a Christmas tree pulled apart for fun in a British school or somebody spit at a teacher as a joke. I work in a fifth tier city and am told the behaviour is much better in shanghai? 

 

In Britain privileged children usually, not always behave well, whereas in china the richer the kid the worse they behave. What do u think?

 

6 years 14 weeks ago in  Teaching & Learning - China

 
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I thought i would own up to being the op of this question, not that anybody cares. Sometimes I thing posting up anonymously you can be more frank and say what's on your mind. Never understood people's problem with anonymous question. But perhaps I deserved some flak for it, and for it being a barely literate question

 

The day before I posted this question, some kid spat at me. It was not deserved, I did absolutely nothing to make him angry.

 

I think that was what caused the negative tone in the op, though I was not "fishing for anti-china comments".  I ruined what could have been a good exchange of views about classroom experiences.

 

AT the time when I posted this question, I had just started out in China. I had a British-Chinese friend I knew from the U.K who returned and opened an English school outside Baoding. It's how i First came to China. Whatever tier that is haha. His school was allowed to issue visas scotsalan. 

After this I taught English at a school in Shenzhen, then I got got an opportunity to teach biology at a low level international school departments and worked my up to more reputable schools. I mention this because my view on behaviour has changed a lot.

 

Scotslan said very few chinese students get out of control. That's not what I witnessed in my first year. My friend organized a christmas event, hiring out a theater, to promote his school. When he stupidly threw candy into the crowd, like they sometimes do in kids pantomimes back home, there was a massive stampede. They all rushed onto stage and i felt that there could have been a potential tragedy. Parens did nothing to control thier children. When they didnt get candy they then proceeded to destroy the Christmas tree

 

It's not my intention to be negative, this is just what I witnessed. I do not think this would happen back home. Why? i don't know

 

At the public school in Shenzhen i worked at after this, the behaviour was pretty goddamn good. I could control a class of fifty high school students. But i did need some classroom management skills, there was some low level disruption i had to constantly keep on top of

 

How would this compare to back I home? i ve never taught back home but i suspect trying to control 50 students would drive you to drink.

 

In  an international department/school in a city of a few million, the behavior could be awful. some basic manners and consideration/boundaries could be totally absent from some students. 

 

Im at a decent international school and the behavior is even better than the shenzhen public school

 

The bottom line is geography makes a hell of a difference in china. Chinese students in more developed places cause a lot more lower level disruption, have poorer concentration than western students, have less intiative an have an inability to do teamwork/group projects ect. but on the other hand they don't have serious high level disruption such as drugs, sex and alcohol.

 

 

 

 

 

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Why should they be any different than the adults? I'm kidding. Only some adults behave badly, mostly the ones that drive. Some kids are just more active and hard to control.

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Yes, a lot of them do. Bad parenting and their grandparents spoiling them has mostly to do with it. Chinese parenting REALLY sucks. It does. 

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I just done a quick Bing. I can't find any reference to 5th tier cities.

 

Quote:  " I work in a fifth tier city and am told the behaviour is much better in shanghai? " 

 

A 5th tier city must actually just be a large town out in the sticks.

 

Dude, I salute you. How on earth did you manage to get a Z visa to teach in such a place?  Are you sponsored by an NGO?

 

If you are not legal, you have no right to complain.

 

Would I pay you to teach my kid English?..........Nope. Your written question sort of gives the game away as to why you did not find a job in a first, second or third tier city.

 

 

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What do I think?

I think as an anonymous poster you are fishing for anti-China comments as many anonymous posters do.

They then either answer their own questions or disappear until the next loaded question appears.

 

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Did you mean to ask '' Do you think Chinese children are badly shaved'' ?

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as the saying goes: Excess of everything is harmful...

Same is the case in this regard. Parents don't care whatever their child is doing. While traveling on the bus it is a usual scene a child is crying as loudly as the person who is talking on his phone abusing everyone... But nobody cares...

I remember one particular incident when I had to travel in the local bus for as far as 25 stops and a girl of 3-4yrs was crying constantly. That was unbearable for me but what could I do.

And sometimes child is kicking his parents but they seem oblivious...

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No, try working in Korea.

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Yeah, I was shocked to go to parks and find teenagers not openly drink beer, what the h.... will become of them if they don't let their mind get the rest it gets best through numbing it with alcohol.?

 

Oh, I think Sorrels has the best answer in this thread.... even if more people answer. 

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sure i bet they are not as great as japanese school children

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Some chinese students misbahave. That is true.

 

My friend told me that in huangshi students eat during the class,talk all the time even he warns them. Sometimes he took them to teacher`s room but it just doesnt help.

 

I realised that some chinese thinks that behaving unfriendly, cocky  makes them more important such as king.

 

I see this attitude frm rich chinese parents who even say hello and look angrily to foreign teachers while they pass by.

On the other hand some chinese parents are so nice. It is hard to generalize

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Are they badly behaved?
Do Chinese kids sh*t on the street? (that's a local variant of: Does a bear sh*t in the woods?)

Yes.

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I teach in a kindergarten,I think that if the Chinese teachers are good in the classroom then the children are good and your class should be good.

 

if you dont have good Chinese teachers in the class then the class just does not work no matter what you do.

 

 

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Lack of education ... but it surely is improving.

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Sorry, I don't agree with those who are saying yes over misbehave, in fact, they give huge respect no matter from which culture or nation you belong.

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generally it's the boys who miss behave. No guidance from their parents. It gets worse for the guys as they grow into teenagers.

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Interesting thread resurection.

Now my daughter is 6 and I have been in the company of her pals etc, I would say I have got to the point where I dont notice it.

But the wife and daughter went to the UK this year and my family said daughter and spoiled and misbehaved.

When my beloved sister told me she wanted to smack my daughter I had them cut short the trip pronto.

Yup. Chinese kids are spoiled, but there are very few who are totally out of control. And even then, in my social group I have never seen any parents lift their hands to their kids.

I have seen Chinese parents smack kids in public... gets my gander up.

And of course, like kids everywhere, their behaviour depends on who is looking after them. Mine runs rings round her grandma.

But yeah. Comparing Chinese kids to western kids, they are spoilt and unruly.

Strange when you think about it. Chinese are supposed to be indoctrinated and servile, but my UK sister felt violence was required to beat my daughter into a submissive 'seen and not heard' drone.

I would not hold back if I seen someone hit my kid. No way will she have to endure what I did.

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I thought i would own up to being the op of this question, not that anybody cares. Sometimes I thing posting up anonymously you can be more frank and say what's on your mind. Never understood people's problem with anonymous question. But perhaps I deserved some flak for it, and for it being a barely literate question

 

The day before I posted this question, some kid spat at me. It was not deserved, I did absolutely nothing to make him angry.

 

I think that was what caused the negative tone in the op, though I was not "fishing for anti-china comments".  I ruined what could have been a good exchange of views about classroom experiences.

 

AT the time when I posted this question, I had just started out in China. I had a British-Chinese friend I knew from the U.K who returned and opened an English school outside Baoding. It's how i First came to China. Whatever tier that is haha. His school was allowed to issue visas scotsalan. 

After this I taught English at a school in Shenzhen, then I got got an opportunity to teach biology at a low level international school departments and worked my up to more reputable schools. I mention this because my view on behaviour has changed a lot.

 

Scotslan said very few chinese students get out of control. That's not what I witnessed in my first year. My friend organized a christmas event, hiring out a theater, to promote his school. When he stupidly threw candy into the crowd, like they sometimes do in kids pantomimes back home, there was a massive stampede. They all rushed onto stage and i felt that there could have been a potential tragedy. Parens did nothing to control thier children. When they didnt get candy they then proceeded to destroy the Christmas tree

 

It's not my intention to be negative, this is just what I witnessed. I do not think this would happen back home. Why? i don't know

 

At the public school in Shenzhen i worked at after this, the behaviour was pretty goddamn good. I could control a class of fifty high school students. But i did need some classroom management skills, there was some low level disruption i had to constantly keep on top of

 

How would this compare to back I home? i ve never taught back home but i suspect trying to control 50 students would drive you to drink.

 

In  an international department/school in a city of a few million, the behavior could be awful. some basic manners and consideration/boundaries could be totally absent from some students. 

 

Im at a decent international school and the behavior is even better than the shenzhen public school

 

The bottom line is geography makes a hell of a difference in china. Chinese students in more developed places cause a lot more lower level disruption, have poorer concentration than western students, have less intiative an have an inability to do teamwork/group projects ect. but on the other hand they don't have serious high level disruption such as drugs, sex and alcohol.

 

 

 

 

 

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