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Q: Does it disgust you?

I went to a dinner with friend, there's an old Italian man with his Chinese wife. That old man looks 70 years old but his wife only looks about 30 years old. Then my friend told me that old guy has a factory in Hangzhou.

 

lol I doubt if there's any real love story in it. And it just disgusted me and I just refused to interact with both of them.

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Disgust or jealously .....?

 

I wonder !

Viki87:

Jelous of Chinese girls dating western men have grey hair?

 

What a joke? I do not need a sugar candy

 

 

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Would it make any difference to your opinion if they were the same age but there was no love involved, she was just in it for the money?

Me personally, I couldn't care less. If they're both happy and getting what they want from the relationship all power to them I say.

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Disgust or jealously .....?

 

I wonder !

Viki87:

Jelous of Chinese girls dating western men have grey hair?

 

What a joke? I do not need a sugar candy

 

 

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your question?pretty much

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And just what is it that disgusted you about it?

 

What assumptions have you made about this couple?

 

And how do you form your ethics?

Viki87:

I personally just feel it's disgusting to see old men married with young women.

 

There are some exceptions. Which I am fine with it but still not make me feel comfortable . Dating someone older than your own father? Come on!

 

Plus not a lot of exception, most just went for money.

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retiredinchina:

when your 50 years old and your husband is 50 years old and he wants to do a horizontal dance in the bed and you say " hang on let me get some lubricant and nail polish, let me know when your finished dear, my ovaries are dead but I still have to walk the dog and take care of your old wiener" , then you might understand why men pick younger women.

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Viki87:

Old men can't handle young women in bed.

 

Old men and young women just don't match at all.

 

 

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Viki87:

Quote a saying from the book He's not that into you:

 

You are not the exception, you are the rule.

 

That's why the couple is in question! Maybe there's real love but less likely.

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Old men can't handle a young lady in bed. This may be true in some cases, but older men take their time before the main event and actually stick around for the after party (smoking the cigarette, snoring, whatever) unlike the young guy on the way to the next quest. The older guy has more experience and seems to get things going in a pleasurable way sooner. My current wife is 30 years younger, and complains about fornicating too much, if she complains too much, there will be a wife number 4. In my sad pathetic life I have come to one conclusion with women, they expect every sexual event to be romantic with dinner, flowers, bubblebath candles, foot rub, back massage etc. While I have no problem with these little gestures of affection, sometimes a man had a hard day at work and wants a good meal and a good lay and a drink and go to bed, but if you do it too quickly, the misses thinks you are using her to relieve stress, so the man gets his quick stress relief somewhere else, and the woman pulls away from taking care of her man. Most women who want to keep a man learn to be whore in bed sometimes, a lady in bed sometimes and know the difference and don't let it cause emotional head games that lead to divorce or infidelity.

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Uniqlo:

well said. Learn to be a whore from uniqlo!

 

If i be your 4th wife, can i get all your green cards by living with you for 5 years?

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It's only 2 years from your interview date that you get a green card, 3 years from the interview date you can get a passport. Five years is for your parents after you get a passport in 3 years and want to sponsor them to immigrate. The interview date is usually 3 to 6 months after you arrive. You don't need to be married after you get the green card so you could put up with somebody for 30 months. Passport does not require any income qualification or marriage, but the fee is about a thousand dollars.

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muahahahhaahahaha seriously??? the one living in hostels, hunting laowai at burger king, is giving lesson in ethic....you made my day.wink

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Fact is one guy is about 34 years old, rich, owns company in Hongkong, invested in Shanghai.

One guy works in a firm here, American. 26 One guy works in finance, 26 And money doesn't matter. What's wrong with ppl in Burger King or youth hostel?

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It disgusts you because you are shallow and mainly concerned with outward appearances. The woman you are referring to clearly isn't. Real, lasting relationships aren't shallow and are based on a variety of considerations. The woman in question may value wisdom and security above looks. The man, due to his age, probably values her youth and vigor. Often, this dynamic is complementary in a relationship. It reminds me of one of my favorite quotes, "Youth is wasted on the young.". You are a perfect example of the truthfulness of this statement. Your youth and whatever beauty you imagine you have, is ruined by your shallow stupidity. It would serve you better if you could save it for a future time when you are wiser and more mature. At that time you would have a better idea of how to use it.

I dont necessarily blame you for your feelings, but refusing to talk to them because you dont agree with their choice of life partners is immature and idiotic.

Viki87:

Why would I talk to them? It just don't make me comfortable at all. 

 

You ou call whatever you like. Shallow? Maybe. But I just don't like it. Disgusting

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xinyuren:

You are too immature to understand, Vicky. Maybe when you grow up...

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Viki87:

I just don't like that. Ugly as hell! 

 

Who the hell wants to date someone older than her own father?

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xinyuren:

Apparently she did! Everyone has their own standards and requirements. You should be the last to ridicule her because it seems nobody wants to date you.

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Viki87:

Single isn't the worst. 

 

Its better than dating some man older than your own father. Embarrassing!

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I would presume that Viki has had bad experiences with older men... such as the story of her father.

 

As Xin said - some women want maturity, wisdom, experience, and a whole host of other things.

 

You just want a young white guy with a big dick and a chance at a green card.

 

 

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Viki87:

It occuries to me that here are just a bunch of old guys defend their romance with their young girls.

 

It made me laugh when you say that I go for young man God green card and the young girls went to old men are for love? 

 

lol 

 

Dude seriously? Most young women went for old western men are for green card, most women who went for western men at similar age are for love. Lord, I hope you aren't that stupid.

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In face, a lot of smart guys I know are young guys, a lot of assholes I know are old guys.

 

Why?

 

Because it's hard to change someone's personality.

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Sadly we live in a world which relies on a monetary system. It's a system that creates endless imbalance and most every ugliness one can imagine. The girl was most likely a product of poverty and the fear of being poor. Who knows, maybe she has a family member on a life support system, I knew a man who married a girl with a similar age gap who needed money to send her family. Made me sick that he would take advantage of that just to get laid but then he probably saw himself as a white knight who was saving her family from ruin and deserved a little sugar in return. I did see him as ugly, but not her. Her I just pitied.

Viki87:

Yeah, propally. That's the ugliness. But serious? She can work on several jobs to send money to her family right? Why sold herself?

 

Some people call me shallow to not want to interact with them. But I just don't think there's any big chance there's love involved.

 

I don't think most women will fall for someone older than their own fathers.

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It never occured to you that he loved her? And if he married her, isnt he in fact her "white knight"? I mean, if he didnt marry her and take care of her, what would be her situation? In fact, your story doesnt describe someone who took advantage of anyone. He married her and took responsibility. This wouldnt be necessary if all he wanted was a little tail. He had requirements in a partner and so did she. They probably got married because they met each other's requirements to a satisfactory degree. You didnt say she was forced to marry. A person who wanted to take advantage of her situation would probably just hit it and dismiss it, maybe leaving a little money behind. Sort of like how Vicky describes her relationships.

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nicholasba:

xinyuren, i admire your patience but is wasted time to talk with that kiddo

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xinyuren:

@nicolas- you're right but I was replying to Martian.

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@xinyunren, k

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Curious - what if we had a capitalistic system with money, but lived in a matriarchal society?

 

I don't think it's strictly about money, but any form of 'power imbalance'. That's supposed to be why employees and employers aren't supposed to date. Nor (uni) lecturers and students, and and and...

 

But somehow, being in a relationship for comfort, security, 'love' or whatever, is somehow more noble or 'right' than for money, stability, sex, or whatever more materials we can get. When did the material world get such a bad rap??

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@shining - I think the marriage of material convenience gets a bad rap because one's financial situation is so dynamic. Suppose the woman's material needs diminish? Then her need to be married to him diminishes proportionally. But love is supposed to be forever.

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This particular 'white knight' was anything but. More a dark turd. Sure, she got money off him because in effect he bought her. You only needed to look in her eyes to see she was miserable.

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Those men think young girls with old men are for love. Young girls with young men are for green card. 

 

lol funny as hell.

 

We all know most young Chinese girls went for old western men for money and green card.

 

A lot of ladies are attracted by the charm of western men at similar age. Those are LOVE

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Well you're generalizing, but on the whole I'd say that's true. There's always those girls who genuinely go for older men. Thank God for the daddy complex.

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I said most, of course there're some exception. But not much exception, most went for old men for money.

Older men is a diffrent concept to old men. Like I used to date guy 4 years older, he's an older man. I don't date an old man at 50, that close to my Dad's age.

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here is something u can think about viki, what if the man has never been married he isnt perfect or the most handsome or wealthy and most his life he has been single lonely been rejected rediculed passed by women all his life because most women wanted a perfect handsome wealthy man? Now he finds a foriegn lady who is younger beautifull been rejected by her society the men because she is a left over never married or been loved before And she finds this much older man who really loves her for love not looks money age or lust. Now that is a perfect match they are made for each other they look on the inside beauty dont care about the outside looks or the age gap. Thats real love

Viki87:

Fact is he has many children at her age.

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a factory in hangzhou full of kids working for him? besides, and i know i will regret asking, but how do you know?did you ask him?or you just again speak out of your childish and pathetic arrogance?

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Good post cub. Have an upvote :-)

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he's young at heart n can share his life experiences with her.

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Vicki, the thing with judging people is.... well here's an example.

 

A lot of Chinese - often the men - judge Chinese girls for being with foreigners. They are called traitors, whores chasing money or a visa, desperate ugly things no Chinese guy would want etc etc...  I've seen it in real life and online. It's pathetic and ugly and usually only comes from the lowest quality, highly insecure people. They have no idea what the situation is, they just mindlessly judge for their own insecure reasons and say she should be with a Chinese guy because she's Chinese and that's the way it should be and no why !

 

Now how would YOU feel if you met the handsome blond soul mate of your dreams, you were both happier than you've ever been but everyone you worked with called you a gold digging race traitor even though they knew nothing about either of you, and you were only with a foreign guy because no Chinese dude would have you.

 

It would suck and be very unfair, yes? It wouldn't even be their business,even if you were making a mistake with him it would be your mistake to make, not theirs, but you aren't making a mistake, you know what is best for you not jealous gossipy assholes. You would probably look down on them.

And there is every chance this will happen if you ever do hook up with a foreign guy.

 

Do you like it when people judge you, when it's none of their business?

 

 

 

 

xinyuren:

Good comment. Vicky, you have already told us your situation. You give white guys your Wechat and they talk you up long enough to f#ck you. After they are finished, they stop chatting with you. So you are a single dog caught up in a cycle of getting used by foreigners. And you criticize a couple who are in a committed relationship? LOL! If you prefer your lifestyle, fine, but you wont get us to agree that you are somehow superior to them.

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You don't really expect Vicky to answer this? That would require introspection & an understanding of the point you're trying to make......

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@Hotwater... No, I'm not really expecting much of an answer. I do hope (yeah I know...) that it's some sort of food for thought though.

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stiggs, when i first posted on thi site and told about my situation and whom i was in a relationship that she was 25 years younger a unmarried chinese lady that owned a pharmacy and had another side career the same stereotype remarks accusations assumptions second guessing from members on this site about her wanting to leave china for just a green card to steal my money mary then divorce was all i heard about

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The thing is Cub, it does happen. It is a materialistic place and a lot of people do marry just for money and social advancement. The warnings aren't just talk.

 

As far as Vicki's question goes...  I understand her being sceptical, that's just how people think. But to my way of thinking, who cares? If they're happy doing what they're doing, then it's all good and not our business, and most people are in no position to judge others on their choices.

 

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Of course Vicky will reply... just not how you want :p

 

@cub - the point you missed was that a) you'd NEVER MET HER! b) You expressly asked for traits that MOST CHINESE GIRLS NO LONGER HAVE, c) EXPECTED HER to CHANGE to YOUR way of being...and d)  IGNORED the advice of those who actually live here and have met Chinese girls.oh, and e) you've never been to China!!!!

 

If you took away all of those factors, no-one would give a toss (well, other than Vicky!)

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lol fact is you are just talking with an asshole I know his dirty things have been doing in China. Can't help laughing that you guys think he's decent.

 

 

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@shining [A] u are right [b] the traits i asked about were just that in a question [c] i never mentioned i expected her to change to my way if she needed to change. WE BOTH need to compromise adapt adjust and change as a relattionship progresses on Its a 2 way street not a my way or the hiway [c] unless the ones whom gave me advice are 100% ALL chinese women are as they described and have known dated or knew ALL chinese woman all whatver millions ther are in china [i doubt it] then i willgive some the benifit of the doubt [d] u are right So am i to assume that a few hundred chinese women who members whave dated known lived with married to with worked with are a example of all the millions of chinese women in china? i am not careless quick to condemn judge so easily. i will observe go forward slowly not jumping to conclusions and if there are anything questionable suspicious negative i see or hear then i will know and his is BEFORE i marry her ok? many live and marry in a microwave society with a quickie mentality not knowing a person long enough before marriage. And yes i took and listened to the advice from others All exeriences situations people relationships are different unique not a cookie cutter one date fits all. i am very patient no rush to jump in marriage when i am the only one sacrificing compromising everything We both are equals we both will either lose or gain in ths relationship Either way as a team, we do it together. All previous advices and suggestions from members here i dont take for granted or ignore and will apply or use. So dont worry dnt give up i havent gave up Aything dishonest thats a lie fraud a scam eventually will be exposed found out.

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If both man and woman are there voluntarily, then I think it is just great. 

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And don't you realize most guys who comment here are guys at about 50 who wants a fantasy with young girls?

nicholasba:

34 here...thanks

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xinyuren:

I'm 50, but I dont have a fantasy. I have reality. A happy marriage with two children. What do you have? A bunch of white foreigners on your wechat who only want to f#ck you. How long do you want to continue being their sex doll?

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Viki87:

When my Dad was at 50, he owned a good big house and a business. I am in a college already.

 

I am not surprised with Chinese girls married their sugar Daddy!

 

It's easyto get an old western man who is at your Dad's age or probally older. We don't need sugar daddy. I am not rich, but I don't want to sell myself.

In Shanghai, some girls do it. Mainly girls who came from poor province who wants to escape from poverty. They can do anything to get money and green card as long as you pay. Not much diffrent to prostitute.

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In Shanghai, some old western men at 50 approached me. I just ignored them till they left me alone.

 

 

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xinyuren:

All that talking and you still dont answer my question. In fact you are selling yourself to white foreigners. They just dont want to buy. They use you for a few nights then walk away.

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Viki87:

Selling? Sorry maybe your young Chinese wife did such thing but not me. I have dignity. 

 

 

Pity!

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xinyuren:

Ah, so you are a free F#ck toy? Well thats different! Clearly you are better person!

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Viki87:

If I fuck a guy, because I want to enjoy it! I will never be a toy. 

 

Maybe your young Asian wife is, a paid toy! 

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xinyuren:

You are a toy, Vicky. They used you and ran away. You have already admitted it. Nobody wants to marry you, they just wanted to use you. My wife is a mother and partner. You are a weekend sex object.

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Viki87:

Your wife might be a prostitute. 

 

I don't see why you are so proud of it. An old western man can easily get Asian girls at their 20S or early 30S to marry because they hold western passport! Lol we are laughing about it, don't you know it? Both me and the westerners I are going out with laugh about it. We all know!

 

 

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Viki87:

If you go to poorer countries like Tailand, much much easier to buy women. 

 

A lot of Chinese men went to Vietnam to buy wivies, usually poor Chinese men or old Chinese men

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xinyuren:

Yet she has a home, a business and her own family. You have what?........ nothing. Just babbling nonsense on this forum. Why are you laughing? The only thing funny is your life.

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Viki87:

As so far I can remember, your wife is from a poor area of China! Go ask a Zhejiang girl or Shsnghai, how many of them will give a fuck about old western men?

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Viki87:

Sometimes some Chinese men offered to buy me drink in the bar, I serious don't give a fuck!

 

I always pay my own bills! Bars, resturants, clubs

 

Of course I would like to seek for someone I like at my similar age. 

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xinyuren:

Every place in China is poor. you are poor. Stop acting like a poor jealous girl and change your life. Then you wont be so concerned with other people's lives.

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Viki87:

Not true. East of China are much more wealthy than other areas of China.

 

Used to share house with a guy from Henan, he barely eats out. His gf even blamed him to buy some thing 1RMB more than the market price.

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You are all poor. Poor thinking, poor attitudes and poor lives. You just dont know it. I've dated girls from all over China. Jiangsu, Guangdong, Fujian, Shangdong... they all have the same poor thinking. The rich girls are even worse. They like to pretend they are better than the poor people. You want a better life? Change your thinking. This is what my wife is doing.

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Viki87:

Could you stop pretending?

Ain't looking for a sugar daddy isn't called poor thinking. Got some dignity, girl!

 

If I am 50, I can go to poor places to buy a lot of fresh toy boys, but I am not willing to do that. 

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xinyuren:

ok. I'm sorry. I see you got it all figured out. Silly me! You are living the good life, why am I giving you advice?

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viki, what if the man is 50 never married no kids isnt wealthy american women generaly ignore him becuse they are shallow greedy selfish materialistic, all want a much younger wealthier handsome man all based on fairytales of beaches white knights prfect marriage? So for that reason he wants a foriegn lady who cares less about his outside looks wealth even his age or age gap? Then whomever he finds is younger beautiful lder than 25 YO has a pharmacy business earning over 500k rmb a year and another career earning 700k rmb knows english but wants a foriegn man to marry will sign a prenupt? See how all preconcieved stereotypes dont match u are talking about? Why need a green card a man to marry for monetary gain after marriage and moving to his country when in china she is wealthy successful now? For my protection she knows and agrees to a prenupt so im safe no gold digger is she Her dad left divorced her mom when she was 2 her stepdad isnt the best. Now she sees her mom at 50 gettiing older health not good so she is making up for lost times As for marrying a much older man to try to replace her real dad i dont think she is doing this but she wants love from a man age looks age gap his material she dont care about.

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Viki87:

Lol Are you talking about your affair in China?

 

and all you talking about is young beautiful Asian girls...

 

Most just don't marry an old man, do a social survey first. 

 

Don's defend your affair in a respectful way!

 

 

You are making it's reasonable for old men to marry young girl, and make it unreasonable for young men to marry young women. You are making me sick! If a girl wants to marry an old man to find fsther's love, she should see a doctor first. Make me sick. I am talking about the rule( most don't marry an old man), not exception. That's how social perspective is. We live in the society. And the big age gap just don't match at all. Mainly is about youth of a Asian woman. Back to your country, most women don't give you a fuck!

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vki, address whom u are replying to and what question they asked u ok? i cant tell whom u are talking to 3 other people or me when u reply back. if u answer my question then address me so i will know how to reply back with a answer

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I once dated a Chinese lady who would never take change below a 5 yuan note, she would tell the cashier to keep it, could not be bothered by loose change. I dropped her like like a dead man, sadly I could not kill her. Most women I have dated in my life are still friends, no bad breakups if you communicate intent upfront very well, but this lady was the exception, I really hope this snob b***h has a painful death in the future. I grew up poor and became somewhat well off and comfortable, but I have never looked down on people, my current wife and my mistress think I'm crazy for talking with peasants and the homeless that they just ignore. Being poor is a frame of mind, money does not change your thinking or your behavior, but lashing out at others that are poor is a way of escaping the guilt of success. I have no guilt and I worked very hard for it and don't give a shit what anybody thinks of me.

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Don't you feel Shame to say my current wife and mistress? 

 

haha You made my point well. 

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Fact is I heard young western guys feel disgusted with seeing some Chinese young girls with old grey western men.

retiredinchina:

That young guy will do the same thing when he is old, I was one of those complainers as a young man also.

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viki, every generation young men get worse as in respecting a woman not treating women as a sex toy temporary pleasure going from sex partner to sex partner they expect this they are takers love is never there they are never taught to respect a woman treat her as a gift a treasure don want sex never marry. So is it no wonder a chinese lady much younger by 15 20 even 30 years wants a older man to be treated with respect dignity not as a sex toy but know what love and respect is? Love is blind to color race looks age wealth or age differences.

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Viki87:

Stop pretending? 

 

You  are one of the worst old men living a dirty life in China.

 

Old men married with kids back to home but having affairs in China with poor girls. Fuck you!

 

I know too much old western men like that and some even asked me to have sex. I just don't give a fuck! They throught its easy to get me but they are wrong. I am not those Chinese prostitutes who marrying their sugar daddies and pretend it's love,

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In fact, many married young western men are actually seem decent.

 

Most old men use their western passport to getting girls here. Back to home, they don't get women easy.

 

 

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viki, who is having or have had affairs with young chinese women and whom is the worst old men living a dirty life in china? Come on, make some sense here and addrress whom u are replying/talking to by name

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cub:

viki, how can a foriegn older mans passport get chinese girls to his country? He has his passport its for him only she has to get have her own ppassport its for her use only

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It's you cub. Idiot. You never feel guilty to have affair? 

Well, good luck with those gold digger Chinese girls. 

 

 

We know your secret! Not just me. Lol

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viki, what is with the calling me names? Do u know its hard to feel ''guilty'' about a affair if i never had one before and a affair is if i was married then cheated on my wife but i have never been married before Also, why is having a Chinese gf my secret? Very hinky viki

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Cub, stop lying on the forum! 

 

You are the Worst! Cheating on your wife is unforgivable.

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viki for the sake of bantering keeping this thread alive and going, just how can a man cheat on his wife or have a affair if he has never married never been married?

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You only have one life vicky. And the older you get, the more you realise it.

The perception of age is something that young people have. Older people (compared to you) might seem old and alien to you. But trust me, there is no such thing as "feeling old". Not mentally anyway. We don't change at 40 or 50, 60, 70 and up. We still have the same desires. But we have a lot less time to enjoy them. And we want to enjoy what we have left. When you are 60, you will understand this.

Maturity is not counted in years, it is measured by a passion for life. If you think the passion dies at age 32, then you should watch the movie "Logan's Run" Smile

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nice talk. Thumbs up!

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hahaha seriously the one living in hostels, hunting laowai at burger king, is giving lesson in ethic....you made my day.wink

 

 

pricelesss!!!!!

and again a great comedy show powered by ecc

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At the end fo the day, I highly doubt the couple lost a second of sleep when you snubbed them by not talking to them. Maybe you should wise up to the fact that most, if not all people really dont give a damn what you think [about them].

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I'm amazed reading this that nobody seems to see Viki's point. Like when you see Rupert Murdoch with some young woman, do you really not think, "Good luck getting her with an empty wallet"? And the thought of her gagging on his liver spotted Johnson, looking at the clock, waiting for the bastard to die doesn't make you reach for a bucket? I know exactly where she's coming from. Is everyone here just defending themselves or are you really not aware of the very real, very embarrassing sub culture of cradle robbing sex tourists that float around from country to country in Asia? I try very hard not to judge but when I see a guy in his 70's with a girl of 30, I too want to throw up. Jesus, I thought most people did, not least of all the 30 year old girl. Boy, do I not have 'my' finger on the pulse of the people.

cub:

what gives u thier idea of age martian? some look younger or older than thier actual age Of course, unless u ask for thier ID to confirm they arer old to make sure And yes, scams are everywhere and u seen them heard these stories how often?

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Exactly I am talking about reality.

 

Those guys are just defending themselves. 

 

Tell me me how many chances a 30 years old woman will go for a 50-70 years old western men? That's the reality, the rule. Most did are gold diggers. I pity them!

 

I am not rich, but I never sell myself! That's my rule! Many old western men came to me But soon they quickly realize I am diffrent than other Asisn girls. They will soon disapear!

 

I believe I am not bad looking. If I am willing to do that, I can hook up with a wealth old western men so easily. But they know I don't give a fuck!

 

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Quite simply the bigger the age difference the greater the chance it is money motivated. Doesn't mean there aren't exceptions, but when that age gap reaches 40 years then yeh, I'm ready to hurl.....on the pair of them.....but mostly him. You really have to look at them though, see if they're really happy. The only couple of that description I've met though.....just a dirty, sleazy bastard, and a poor, miserable young girl.

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I am ready to throw up when the age age reaches 20.

 

The oldest guy I have dated is 10 years old. 

 

I had several men 1-2 years younger than me, let's call it similar age. They are fun actually. Hahaha Look at my young ex's cure face and made love with him made my day. 

But ofcourse our age is close.

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martian and viki, so u two have your stories expectations and stereotyping in sync now? Sounds like u two are both employed by ECC to keep the convversations humming along just to keep ECC alive. Serioously, its none of your business what age differences or motives if any two married people are. U like what u like and we/them like what age looks love they have. U two are so hung up on a couples ages and age gaps and what motives they have for being married. Its thier life not yours. Are u two so unhappy sad miserable being your lives are empty that others cant enjoy thier happiness being married a match eternally and in love? Whatever u do dont ruin other couples happy married lives with your disgust and negativity. This world hs enough of this as it is MYOB

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I do mind my now business, I'm not attacking you, but if you honestly think that the average relationship that has an age gap as big as 40 years is not motivated by money then I'm afraid you're fooling yourself. Where are all the broke 70 year olds with 30 year old girlfriends? Age may well be just a number, unfortunately though it is very rare for anyone to see past that number unless there are also a number of bills attached. Those are the facts of the case and most people are aware of them. And Viki, you might want to re-word that sentence about your oldest boyfriend being 10. You're leaving yourself wide open there, mate.

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martian, MYOB includes not being ''disgusted'' seeing a older man with a younger chinese lady that like viki did not wanting to chat with the as though they committed a crime like marrying love at such age differences. For a fact, china has more people married to each other couples with 15 20 35 year age differences then any other country. Whatever your adversion disgust assumption suspicions are about marrying with a age gap are a refection of what u would do if u were in thier situation. And i never said or mentioned u were ''attacking'' me Why does a age gap have to do with money all the time? Dont paint the ones who do this for monetary gain a green card as if ALL do this Does this happen? Of course but really, how often? Stop assuming all do this and they are guilty by assuming All mosty go on rumors and gossip makes them guilty without proof and u dont even know thier story Must be many u associate with daily u know that have done this marrying a forieg man with 30 or 40 years age differences. just for a green card and money as the motivation. A simple prenupt agreed and signed by her before she marries him will make or break the relationship before to test your theory out.

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I'm part of that age gap demographic you mentioned, my wife is fifteen years younger than me, and I don't doubt that if I were to age 25 years overnight that she would stay with me. It's a generalization to say that marriages with a 40 year age difference are usually money motivated, but sadly it is also a truism. I think this forum may be one of the few places I'd have to argue that fact, but sad though it is, it is still a fact.

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The point you dont see Martian is most marriages in China are money oriented, regardless of the age of the spouse! How many marriages in China do you see where the bride's family doesnt demand some sort of material assurance? cars, houses, cash, etc. There's a saying: to get a beautiful wife, one must be either rich, handsome, or charming, preferably all three. In China, the rich get the better part of that triad. So I can generally point to any marriage in China and say she married him for money and financial security.

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xinyuren, what if she wants to move to a different country after marriage her mom stays in china being taken care of by her older brother and she will sign a prenupt before marrying him? Where is the money the monetary gain in this for her? She has millions now will start a new business wherever country her husband lives in So she has all the money now dont want his money by signing a prenupt Dont sound like a gold digger to me

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I'm perfectly aware of how many marry for money here xinuren, I remember in Liuzhou (a bit of a dive) there was a joke: In Shanghai you need a house to get a pretty girl, in Nanning younneed a car, but here in Liuzhou all you need is a bank account.

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xinyuren:

@cub - are you still talking about that same girl from months ago? Where is she now? Are you married? Engaged? If she was that into you (being rich and all), she would have locked you down by now. You say she is a businesswoman? Businessmen know how to seal a deal, and it wont take several months. If you're still asking these same questions now, you should give up that fantasy. It doesn't exist.

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xinyuren, unlike most couples that believe in a microwave relationship a quickie marriage i dont. A relationship takes time so dont worry about my situation and u will sleep better Have some patience take a breath and relax, i am

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Viki87:

Used to see a couple, the guy is like 50-55, well, handsome guy though.

 

His wife looks in her 20S, super super young but they have two kids like 3-6 years old.

 

I got approached by western men at this age a lot. Business owners or senior director of famous global companies. But I just simply don't give a fuck.

 

 

I don't like looking at a face full of wrinkles when I am still have my youth. Plus old men can't handle several times of sex everyday but young men can have sex like doing sport. Young men are usually more interesting too, they have a wonder of a child, so cute^^ sometimes mature and sometimes immature, too cute. Awwww I usually just either date guys at my same age, or 1-5 years older than me or 1-2 years younger than me~~~~ They look too cute^^ Everytime when I saw them, I just had an urge of wanting to eat them right away. Meow~~~~

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Dating guys at similar age is a lot of fun. We can both dress in a funny way or whatever.

 

After finish a long day at work, come home to see a cute looking bf at my similar age. It makes me feel happier! 

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