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Q: Is the end near?

In regards to Covid that is. Omnicron seems to be the death nail for this virus which will allow the world to get back to normal. What do you think? 

 

Will there be a new variant that emerges that is more severe than this?

Will China finally let this variant to impact communities, or continue shutting down cities as it emerges?

Can we get back to 1998-99 normal, or are we developed into a new normal?

Will the world governments relinquish their control over their people, or will they find a new emergency to control us?

 

Thoughts????

16 weeks 1 day ago in  Health & Safety - China

 
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next people will be turning into zombies

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You mean UFO? ...  

 

I always get extra pints from CRIT when I mention UFO .... 

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Dunno. Nobody does but I think everyone is hoping it'll be the end of it..

 

What do YOU think though?

icnif77:

It looks like a survey ... 

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I don't know about the survey but I am wondering how long OP has been expecting the world to go back to 1999 normal - that was always highly unlikely - and if he thinks government control is a new thing.

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I wrote a lengthy opinion, but then I delete it 'cause of the 'survey' feeling ...

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As far as it being a survey of some kind, anyone likely to reply with their opinions regarding covid has been saying what they think for the last two years.

 

I think the intention is probably just to post something likely to provoke differing opinions and,I don't know...  sit back and enjoy the squabbling or something. I doubt his intention was to participate.

 

Or maybe he just thought a few armchair experts on ECC would have the answers to the questions that the whole world is asking.

16 weeks 23 hours ago
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It remained me on one sentence Qs somehow ...

 

I don't think, OP is that kind of bot, but who knows who's using the old handles ... here.

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nothing to see here.
https://rumble.com/vsyb0y-strong-and-clear-statement-made-by-professor-christian-perronne-with-englis.html

 

At the Parliamentary hearing in Luxemburg 12.01.2022

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Not a survey. Sorry if I gave you that feeling. Just something on my mind. Instead of some of the goofy postings such as "how do I get a job at a Chinese strip club when I live out of country", I like to provide something a little more thought provoking. Occassionally I post something fun or different. In this situation, it is something just on my mind and wanted to see what others thought. 

 

I like echinacities for what it is. I also like to see many of the veteran's postings. 

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Fair enough, it's the one big question on everyone's minds at the moment.

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It seem we are closed to the end of the plague. I am sure worse are in store. Let's hope it won't be any soon the next one. It is sure that we are getting out of it by the Summer.  Hopefully China will open the borders again.

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Worse news that the pandemic will cross ... as major war at the hot spots, and if not, new Cofid strain is ready ...

 

We'll never get rid of the masks ... and number of necessary vaxx shots will never cease. 

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Yeah I think it'll be the new strains that will be the gift that keeps on giving. That and supply chain issues.

 

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First 2 titles at RT this EU AM:

 

US diplomats’ families ordered to leave Ukraine

https://www.rt.com/russia/546901-us-embassy-voluntary-departure/

 

Chinese Air Force alarms Taiwan with massive flyby

https://www.rt.com/news/546903-china-taiwan-jets-flyby/

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Oh, that's what you meant by hotspots....

 

Yep, the Ukraine situation might have the potential to get really messy.

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You read Zero before the first reply, he he:

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/take-only-what-you-need-dc-asks-people-limit-supermarket-purchases-empty-shelves-persist

 

"Take Only What You Need:" DC Asks People To Limit Supermarket Purchases As Empty Shelves Persist

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See ZeroHedge's link about Uki ...

They opened the article with pic of both (father&son) Bidens ...

 

" ... leave Uki ( and Uki's payouts ... LOL) immediately ..."

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-orders-families-diplomats-immediately-leave-ukraine-biden-weighs-deploying

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The empty shelf thing is happening in lots of places now and expected to get worse. International supply chains have been a mess pretty much since the pandemic started.

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My Cofid prediction sucks ... big time.

 

See Denmark's post on the bottom ...

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https://freewestmedia.com/2022/01/14/life-insurer-refuses-to-cover-vacci...

Although vaccination is recognized as the cause of death by doctors and the insurance company, it has refused to pay out. The reason is because the side effects of the Corona jabs are known and published. They argue that the deceased took part in an experiment at his own risk. Covid-19 in itself is.

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Not right, but expected ...

If health insurers would cover the pandemic deaths and all, it would be the end of insurance ...

Ohh, I see now ... died because of the vaxx ...

My personal decision is right ... insurance, i.e. no vaxx for me, he he!

I just don't want to glow in the dark ...

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OT ...,surprise but it rimes with the thread's title ... laugh

 

Fight Club, 1999, released for Chinese audience 23-years later ...

 

In the Chinese version, however, this ending is completely cut out and the viewer is instead informed that the police saved the day and stopped all the bombs from exploding. All of this is delivered in a simple caption that reads: “Through the clue provided by Tyler, the police rapidly figured out the whole plan and arrested all criminals, successfully preventing the bomb from exploding. After the trial, Tyler was sent to lunatic asylum receiving psychological treatment. He was discharged from the hospital in 2012.” laugh 

 

https://www.rt.com/pop-culture/547214-fight-club-china-censorship/

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No. 

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NO, The gov'ts will make a new strain until all 8 billion people are vaccinated so the pharmacuticles and the paid gov't officials are making billions a year

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Editorials - BMJ

Covid-19 vaccines and treatments: we must have raw data, now.

Data should be fully and immediately available for public scrutiny

In the pages of The BMJ a decade ago, in the middle of a different pandemic, it came to light that governments around the world had spent billions stockpiling antivirals for influenza that had not been shown to reduce the risk of complications, hospital admissions, or death. The majority of trials that underpinned regulatory approval and government stockpiling of oseltamivir (Tamiflu) were sponsored by the manufacturer; most were unpublished, those that were published were ghostwritten by writers paid by the manufacturer, the people listed as principal authors lacked access to the raw data, and academics who requested access to the data for independent analysis were denied.

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Unacceptable delay

Pfizer’s pivotal covid vaccine trial was funded by the company and designed, run, analysed, and authored by Pfizer employees. The company and the contract research organisations that carried out the trial hold all the data.17 And Pfizer has indicated that it will not begin entertaining requests for trial data until May 2025, 24 months after the primary study completion date, which is listed on ClinicalTrials.gov as 15 May 2023 (NCT04368728).

The lack of access to data is consistent across vaccine manufacturers.16 Moderna says data “may be available … with publication of the final study results in 2022.”18 Datasets will be available “upon request and subject to review once the trial is complete,” which has an estimated primary completion date of 27 October 2022 (NCT04470427).

As of 31 December 2021, AstraZeneca may be ready to entertain requests for data from several of its large phase III trials.19 But actually obtaining data could be slow going. As its website explains, “timelines vary per request and can take up to a year upon full submission of the request.”20

Underlying data for covid-19 therapeutics are similarly hard to find. Published reports of Regeneron’s phase III trial of its monoclonal antibody therapy REGEN-COV flatly state that participant level data will not be made available to others.21 Should the drug be approved (and not just emergency authorised), sharing “will be considered.” For remdesivir, the US National Institutes of Health, which funded the trial, created a new portal to share data (https://accessclinicaldata.niaid.nih.gov/), but the dataset on offer is limited. An accompanying document explains: “The longitudinal data set only contains a small subset of the protocol and statistical analysis plan objectives.”

We are left with publications but no access to the underlying data on reasonable request. This is worrying for trial participants, researchers, clinicians, journal editors, policy makers, and the public. The journals that have published these primary studies may argue that they faced an awkward dilemma, caught between making the summary findings available quickly and upholding the best ethical values that support timely access to underlying data. In our view, there is no dilemma; the anonymised individual participant data from clinical trials must be made available for independent scrutiny.

Journal editors, systematic reviewers, and the writers of clinical practice guideline generally obtain little beyond a journal publication, but regulatory agencies receive far more granular data as part of the regulatory review process. In the words of the European Medicine Agency’s former executive director and senior medical officer, “relying solely on the publications of clinical trials in scientific journals as the basis of healthcare decisions is not a good idea ... Drug regulators have been aware of this limitation for a long time and routinely obtain and assess the full documentation (rather than just publications).”22

Among regulators, the US Food and Drug Administration is believed to receive the most raw data but does not proactively release them. After a freedom of information request to the agency for Pfizer’s vaccine data, the FDA offered to release 500 pages a month, a process that would take decades to complete, arguing in court that publicly releasing data was slow owing to the need to first redact sensitive information.23 This month, however, a judge rejected the FDA’s offer and ordered the data be released at a rate of 55 000 pages a month. The data are to be made available on the requesting organisation’s website (https://phmpt.org/).

In releasing thousands of pages of clinical trial documents, Health Canada and the EMA have also provided a degree of transparency that deserves acknowledgment.2425 Until recently, however, the data remained of limited utility, with copious redactions aimed at protecting trial blinding. But study reports with fewer redactions have been available since September 2021,2425 and missing appendices may be accessible through freedom of information requests.

 

Even so, anyone looking for participant level datasets may be disappointed because Health Canada and the EMA do not receive or analyse these data, and it remains to be seen how the FDA responds to the court order. Moreover, the FDA is producing data only for Pfizer’s vaccine; other manufacturers’ data cannot be requested until the vaccines are approved, which the Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines are not. Industry, which holds the raw data, is not legally required to honour requests for access from independent researchers.

Transparency and trust

As well as access to the underlying data, transparent decision making is essential. Regulators and public health bodies could release details27 such as why vaccine trials were not designed to test efficacy against infection and spread of SARS-CoV-2.28 Had regulators insisted on this outcome, countries would have learnt sooner about the effect of vaccines on transmission and been able to plan accordingly.29

Big pharma is the least trusted industry.30 At least three of the many companies making covid-19 vaccines have past criminal and civil settlements costing them billions of dollars.31 One pleaded guilty to fraud.31 Other companies have no pre-covid track record. Now the covid pandemic has minted many new pharma billionaires, and vaccine manufacturers have reported tens of billions in revenue.32

The BMJ supports vaccination policies based on sound evidence. As the global vaccine rollout continues, it cannot be justifiable or in the best interests of patients and the public that we are left to just trust “in the system,” with the distant hope that the underlying data may become available for independent scrutiny at some point in the future. The same applies to treatments for covid-19. Transparency is the key to building trust and an important route to answering people’s legitimate questions about the efficacy and safety of vaccines and treatments and the clinical and public health policies established for their use...
https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o102

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Indeed ...

 

Denmark Is First EU Country To Scrap All COVID Restrictionsteaser image

 

... it will also stop calling Covid-19 a “societally critical disease”, meaning that it will no longer have the legal basis to introduce wide-ranging curbs.

 

 

SUN JAN 30, AT 2:20 PM

 

 laugh "Summon all vaxxed for 2-weeks of hard labour camp ... in the dark." 

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WHAT ?

Strictly regular use of ivermectin as prophylaxis for COVID-19 leads to a 90% reduction in COVID-19 mortality rate, in a dose-response manner: definitive results of a prospective observational study of a strictly controlled 223,128 population from a city-wide program in Southern Brazil
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/358386329_Strictly_regular_use_of_ivermectin_as_prophylaxis_for_COVID-19_leads_to_a_90_reduction_in_COVID-19_mortality_rate_in_a_dose-response_manner_definitive_results_of_a_prospective_observational_study_of_a?utm_sq=gz3ruo66mh

Stiggs:

What?

 

Study in Brazil on ivermectin as a COVID-19 prevention is flawed, experts say

 

 

"We wanted to know more about whether the study might indeed be a course-changer in the ongoing debate about using ivermectin for COVID-19. But experts in the field criticized the study as having critical flaws involving methodology and incomplete data that detract from what, if anything, it adds to the research."

 

"One of the study’s co-authors told PolitiFact that he could not say that the research "proved" ivermectin is effective. And he said nothing replaces vaccines. Rather, the manuscript urges ivermectin as an additional tool."

 

"My primary takeaway," Wada said, "is that this paper adds nearly nothing to the knowledge base regarding ivermectin and COVID-19, and certainly does not prove its effectiveness as a prophylaxis."

 

Conflicts of interest concerns

Wada and Meyerowitz-Katz, who were not involved with the study, each pointed out potential conflicts of interest with the study’s authors. They noted that although the preprint version of the study mentions that two of its authors received money from a pharmaceutical company that manufactures ivermectin, the published version leaves that detail out.

 

http://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jan/28/facebook-posts/study-brazil-ivermectin-covid-19-prevention-flawed/#sources

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What?

corruption?

https://rumble.com/vvahvk-dr.-paul-alexander-epidemiologist-breaks-down-covid-myths-and-corruption.html?fbclid=IwAR09XTxT1yCEaThqEpZ3mzCTWSAlyU2YrPa0RvKZNvQgQRrJFPjNBz5p9tE

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Scientists Discover Highly Infectious Mutant HIV Strain In The Netherlandsteaser image

The variant confirms scientists' fears that viruses can always mutate to become more virulent in humans.

SUN FEB 6, AT 5:30 PM

 

Stiggs:

Haven't you heard?  HIV doesn't exist, the government invented it to steal our freedums and force everyone to wear condoms it's all about control but nobody should have to wear a rubber if they don't want to and why should you be forced to suffer so other people don't catch the HIV and  anyway my friend saw a post on Facebook that said condoms give you cancer because the 5G wifi changes your melanin and don't you think it's very 'convenient' for the condom manufacturers, hmmmmmm? - Obvious proof it's a hoax!!!!!  Do your research sheeple, this ground breaking study in The Onion says that if you inject your dog's flea powder it cures the HIV. sad.......    

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You aren't aware, but you all vaxxed shine  laugh through the messages ... over the web. 

Also, if you'll come to Denmark with yer certificate, you'll go into the labour camp ....

 

You've never commented at my prediction, I mean, my "I-Told-You-So" ...

I think, I should get A-o-t-Day for a month ... 

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What prediction was that?

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"Worse news that the pandemic will cross ... as major war at the hot spots, and if not, new Cofid strain is ready ...

We'll never get rid of the masks ... and number of necessary vaxx shots will never cease. "

 

... announced 2 weeks 3 hours ago ... I mean, well in the Past ...Tense.

 

I am watching the 1st part, i.e. major war ... as Ruski just announced drill with atomic weapons and Vlad is adamant toward Uki&NATO ...

 

Otherwise, waiting for the BTC/USDT drop ... areas of support @39k, 36k, 29k ... and more.

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next people will be turning into zombies

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You mean UFO? ...  

 

I always get extra pints from CRIT when I mention UFO .... 

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Thunder Out Of China: The Lab-Leak Theory Strengthens

 

An update from DRASTIC co-founder Yuri Deigin...

TUE FEB 8, AT 3:00 AM   

 

If, in February of 2021, the WHO’s team of experts were prepared to take the WIV scientists at their word, by August of 2021, some of them confessed to having had reservations all along. In an interview for a Danish television documentary, Peter Ben Embarek, the leader of the WHO team, admitted that Chinese officials had pressured them to drop the laboratory leak hypothesis. “In the beginning, they didn’t want anything about the lab [in the WHO report], because it was impossible, so there was no need to waste time on that,” Ben Embarek remarked. “We insisted on including it,” he continued, “because it was part of the whole issue about where the virus originated.” Ben Embarek added that there were scenarios under which the laboratory leak hypothesis could be consistent with the assumption that COVID-19 had an animal origin:

A lab employee infected in the field while collecting samples in a bat cave—such a scenario belongs both [emphasis added] as a lab-leak hypothesis and as our first hypothesis of direct infection from bat to human. We’ve seen that hypothesis as a likely hypothesis.

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Stiggs:

At this point there's so much bullish and disinformation around I doubt we'll ever know the truth, and if the truth does / has emerged  (probably already has IMO) how would the average bloke know what to believe anyway?

 

And really, who cares? I'm more interested in what happens from here.

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BTC/USD(T) buying area @ 42.300 and then Houston-blast-off toward 69k area ...

I care a lot ... a parking lot ... a lot  .

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always 

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As of today. yes

Stiggs:

What happened that makes today the day?

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Do you play in champions league? ... you two ...

I was just wondering ...

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I'm not even sure what the champions league is.

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Maybe, you should rewatch 'The Goodfellas', 1990 ...

Real 'champs league' there ...

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