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Q: Esl recruiters- why?

There are lots of english teaching jobs. Why do you need "help" from these people? Is it true they try to take a slice of your wage? 

 

Why do echinacities block your cv if you do not talk to these recruiters? Just got an email saying your phone number has been hard to contact so your cv is now blocked and you cannot apply for jobs. Recruiters seem to phone everyday. 

9 years 29 weeks ago in  Business & Jobs - China

 
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Mosty recruiters advertise at eChina.

 

I don't know about 'block', but you could send Intro letter with 'I'm unable to up-load my docs. Please, reply to my email address, and I'll forward you CV, pic. and all docs.'.

 

Then, wait for the replies.

Why do you post anon? Nobody will reply to anon.

icnif77:

I'll repost my 'advert' I usually send over PM. Am I in TOU, if I post it in public reply? I'm not sure, buTT... Siam will advice/carbonate me, if I'm not soon.

 

Skype handles of 'no BS' recruiters:

 

- Belita Qi

- Allen Jia

- Huaxia ESL - Stone -----> he likes native ET, but he helped me with good offers too.

- Linda Xia.

I suggest, you add all 4 in the same time/day, and check what offers do they have open. Then pick 2 or 3 offers, and ask for the Contract show.

You can tell them (or no), you got their handles from 'icnif sixtynine' .

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Tarzan, Almost If you do not want employers / agents calling you then do not post your phone number. Mostly agents would post ads. Many schools actually sit back and wait for foreign teachers to magically appear. Laziness, incompetence and an inability to think means they can't figure out how to find foreign teachers. The fact that there is no repercussion for them not doing their job means they do not care. The added  fact  that many Chinese resent having to  deal with foreigners means that they may even try to sabotage or block foreigners from working at their school. (How many times have you been low-balled?)

 

So the only people with incentive to find foreign teachers are agents. I do not like agents but trying to find schools without them is very difficult. 

So this topic is pointless and senseless CFTU garbage.

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Because its easier for the employers?

 

The school owners pay x rmb to the agent, who then pays y amount to the employee. But there is always the option for the agent to pay z amount back to the person in the school who gives the job to the agent.

 

Possibly?

 

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Unfortunately you are so right. I wish we didn't have to use recruiters. There are some observations about them and I will talk about them in a later topic. But all in all, schools should never use agents. I will develop on this later.

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Recruiters are virtually useless once you are in China anyway, if you are interested by a specific school simply walk in and ask if you can talk with a HR manager, most school in China (including the good ones) are desperate for teachers (despite claiming the opposite and playing picky to save face), they are more in need of you than you need them.

 

But the best is to get your own Z-visa through a visa agent, most charge RMB1000~1500 for a 1 year residence permit (make sure to apply for your RP by yourself and to preciously keep the Alien Employment Permit booklet, as long as you have it you are safe from any abuse), and the same amount to renew it next year, once you have your own residence permit take part time jobs that pay RMB200~250 per hour or find your own students and give private lessons to charge a even higher hourly rate. You will never earn that much per hour with a full time job at a school or a training center. I have an office in my apartment that I use as a small classroom, I give German, business German and sometimes English lessons to adults and college students. This aside from my current job at a kindergarten that I intend to quit next month. No taxes on my income, cash payment after each lesson, I make more with this than with my kindergarten job while working a quarter of the time, now tell me why I should tie myself to an employer?

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@Eorthisio wow, that's a low rate for Z-visa. I've been quoted at 10,000 for a one year Z-visa in SHanghai. In tier-two cities, it was around 5 or 6000 rmb. 

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A: "... through ..."?  Only "through" comes to mind is "Shenzhen agent can connect you with an employer, who's authorized to hire waigouren ... and can sponsor Z visa." It's not like every 10th person you meet in Shenzhen's hood can sponsor work visa ...  The only way to change from student to labourer visa is just a regular way by: 1. Finding an employer, who'll apply for an Invitation letter; 2. Exit China and apply for Z visa in your home country's Chinese embassy; 3. Enter China in 30-days after Z visa was stamped into your travelling instrument ...As I am aware, you won't be able to switch to Working permit by remaining in China....,so make ready for a return to your home .... -- icnif77