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Q: An ethnic minority Chinese marries a Han Chinese and they have a kid together

What race is the kid in the eyes of the government? As in what is put on his birth certificate? And when the kid grows up, what is the race of his kid?

 

 

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Both of my kids have Han listed on their Chinese birth certs. I tried to get them to put Han/Celt but they were having none of it. 

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This question is not about me, just one of the things I think about sometimes. 

 

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Have a look at this and don't miss comments:

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-26/red-hen

 

Similar thing as I was pointing it out to you from 'umerican' side ...

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-26/red-hen-owner-resigns-director...

Jean.P:

What does this have to do with the original question posted? Nothing at all. Please try to keep your twisted excitement for Zero Hedge propaganda to yourself.

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Buzz off! Why don't you try to keep e-Tities for yourself?

 

I have talk with OP! All others might choose not to click on my 'propaganda' links.

 

If you want to act as a moderator apply for the position, and if not 'shut-the-fork-up!'.

 

My last sentence doesn't have anything to do with China! It's aimed toward morons like yourself, who want to patronise others in space, where they are without authority to do so! Why don't you go to the parking lot and scream at unlawfully parked cars, instead?

 

 

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hi2, you haven't received a good answer yet.  Try sending a private message to Sponge Bob.  She's not too bad at giving reliable answers when she remembers to take her meds.

 

Guessing, I would say the husband's ethnicity is the deciding factor for the birth certificate, assuming only one choice is an option.  The birth certificate may simply list the ethnicities of both parents, and that's it.  Alternatively, if the local practice is to not use Han, maybe the parents have enough guanxi to have Han listed on the certificate.  I believe in general that parents will try to select Han if possible, given the social status that designation carries. 

 

What about you guys that have children born in China, what's on the birth certificate?

icnif77:

'We-guys' aren't Chinese.

 

So, you guys what is written on birth certificate of your child with Han national?

 

Ask Uyghurs what is written on their birth certificate ... while both parents were born in China ... 

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Ya pretty shit answers so far I gotta say. I know that the ethnic minorities have some privileges, like they're exempt from some English classes in uni. So my question is asking if a baby is born to a Han and a minority, is the baby listed as Han or the minority on his ID? And if he's listed as Han and he has a baby with another minority is his baby also Han? Does the one drop rule apply to Han Chinese?

icnif77:

Chinese minorities aren't any different than Chinese! Minorities in China are Han Chinese with hukou same as 100-years old Han resident of Beijing.

 

Minorities in China don't have any special priviligies different than non-minority Han Chinese. Education system in China applies to all equally.

 

As you state your Q, I understand that Uyghur minority in Xinjiang can demand what?

 

One nation ... all 1.48 B!

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Not really true that there are no differences for education, as I already said that the minorities are exempt from some English classes in uni. 

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Both of my kids have Han listed on their Chinese birth certs. I tried to get them to put Han/Celt but they were having none of it. 

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I won't contradict Mike directly, but looking at samples of Chinese birth certificates, only the nationalities of the parents are declared on the birth certicates.  There is no statement of ethnicity.

 

Oddly, the birth certificates have a statement for the period of gestation (how long the mother was pregnant), which can be a difficult thing to determine with any precision in many cases.

 

It seems the issue or claim of non-Han ethnicity arises through the hukuo system of household registration.  Apparently, a claim as an ethnic minority can be made through the heritage of either or both parents.  The exact mechanics of how that is done is unclear.  Maybe Mike has some more info about this.

 

As pointed out, there are some benefits to being part of an ethnic minority in China, such as being free of the restrictions of the previous one-child policy, and receiving a slight preference for acceptances at university.  Conversely, rural ethnic minorities haven't received equal socio-economic status and opportunities as their rural Han contemporaries, generally speaking.

hi2u:

Not the birth certificate, but their 身份证 says their race

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身份证 = identification card . . . which is issued from the household registration system. But does it really say "race"? As icnif suggested, there is only one race, the Human Race. In any case, how the child in a "mixed" family is registered depends on the parents' wishes and how the system is managed in each locality.

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