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Q: Is everyone on this forum a fake and or liar?
I have been using this forum for well over 2 years now. I read daily, but post very infrequently (due to the notion that most of what should be said has already been said by another person). Recently though, I have noticed that this forum is full of people that accuse others of being liars, fakes, wumao's, etc... and it is really disturbing. I don't blame anyone for having a skeptical and objective mind, especially when it comes to the internet.
Browse through the various threads on this forum. Sometimes thread content is interesting, but there is now a HIGH frequency of people calling into question other peoples legitimacy on ANY variety of topics. Why is that? When did it becomes necessary to police the character of the people whom frequent this forum?
This forum has undergone certain trends during the nearly 2.3 years that I have been a member: Many of those content trends have subsided. However, this outwardly disrespectful pessimism among a large group of regulars has continued to grow from at first being a trend to becoming the new status quo. What has precipitated that? Do they feel somehow threatened in such a way as to become more and more vicious towards certain other individuals?
Who the hell cares if others are wumaos or fakes or liars? Isn't the goal of visiting this forum to share information and seek some mild form of entertainment? Since when was putting other people down a source of entertainment?
If there are any admin(
reading this thread, why don't you trying being more proactive as a forum administrator? Don't tell me this is some website where you have a formal title, but NO REAL RESPONSIBILITY. GET OFF YOUR ASS AND SET THE STATUS-QUO.
I feel like quite the fool for actually caring about what is going on in these forums. This is the last day that I will read this forum. More time for phys.org I guess~ 再见.
If, as you say, you have been reading this forum daily, you will probably have noticed a very high degree of trolling in the last few months.
While many regular posters try to maintain a degree of courtesy and respect, some answers are made with tongues firmly in cheeks. The odd off-colour remark from regular posters can be put down to BCD's.
It is not hard to read which these are and a quick review of previous comments will make it clear that these are out of character.
new posters can be forgiven from asking questions already asked - i am sure we have all done it.
However, you can not have failed to notice the posters whose sole aim is to denigrate and insult while offering no useful comment.
Because the Admin has not appeared to apply the guide-lines at the time, many posters tried to deal with the problems with varying degrees of success.
Yes, the forum is a public place and free speach blah blah blah, but its success is based on how people treat each other.
As i have commented before, even with the use of aliases and avatars, people characters are revealed through their posts.
so help me - I also give a damn about this site.
I have made new friends here, learnt a lot about China, and shared experiences and had a laugh.
This is what it is about for me.
WCG:
I concur with Harvey and the presented question. I've been using this site since 2009, when they would only have a featured comment of the day and no Q&A section. Some people live on this site, just look at the point system to see who. Obviously these people are not your average users, but more like addicts. There definitely seems to be a correlation between the digressive banter and the number of addicts! This site has developed a pecking order and is equivalent to dealing with high school "clicks." Shall we categorize the online personalities into groups? Who are the "jocks and cheerleaders", "the studious intellectuals", "the emos", "the computer dorks", etc. I think the jocks are trying to rekindle their old high school days. A lot of macho B.S. Test yourself, if you've used the words "Wumao", or "troll" then you are guilty of being an addict. Ha! That's such a high school thing to do. F*cking children, dealing with children.
If, as you say, you have been reading this forum daily, you will probably have noticed a very high degree of trolling in the last few months.
While many regular posters try to maintain a degree of courtesy and respect, some answers are made with tongues firmly in cheeks. The odd off-colour remark from regular posters can be put down to BCD's.
It is not hard to read which these are and a quick review of previous comments will make it clear that these are out of character.
new posters can be forgiven from asking questions already asked - i am sure we have all done it.
However, you can not have failed to notice the posters whose sole aim is to denigrate and insult while offering no useful comment.
Because the Admin has not appeared to apply the guide-lines at the time, many posters tried to deal with the problems with varying degrees of success.
Yes, the forum is a public place and free speach blah blah blah, but its success is based on how people treat each other.
As i have commented before, even with the use of aliases and avatars, people characters are revealed through their posts.
so help me - I also give a damn about this site.
I have made new friends here, learnt a lot about China, and shared experiences and had a laugh.
This is what it is about for me.
WCG:
I concur with Harvey and the presented question. I've been using this site since 2009, when they would only have a featured comment of the day and no Q&A section. Some people live on this site, just look at the point system to see who. Obviously these people are not your average users, but more like addicts. There definitely seems to be a correlation between the digressive banter and the number of addicts! This site has developed a pecking order and is equivalent to dealing with high school "clicks." Shall we categorize the online personalities into groups? Who are the "jocks and cheerleaders", "the studious intellectuals", "the emos", "the computer dorks", etc. I think the jocks are trying to rekindle their old high school days. A lot of macho B.S. Test yourself, if you've used the words "Wumao", or "troll" then you are guilty of being an addict. Ha! That's such a high school thing to do. F*cking children, dealing with children.
I will be the first to admit it. I am a fake and or a liar... I am actually not a bike and or a gypsy. I apologize to you all. My real name is Sanchez
, Forgive me por favor
Scandinavian:
darn, here I was going to ask you to come entertain at my wifes coming birthday.... do any card tricks ?
bike-gypsy:
No, only regular tricks.... dangit i shouldnt have my head in the gutter... i am a dirty Sanchez. Forgive me por favor.
And I'm not the bunny-pope either. It's preposterous if you think about it.
It's so out-of-touch with reality, I must be a wumao.
Since this is the last day that you'll read this forum, perhaps I am "talking" to myself.
Ex-pat forums by their very nature are filled with transients, newbies, long-termers and everyone else in between. Forums also evolve (or devolve depending on your POV) according to the season, age, and education of its members.
I've been a member of 'The Greasy Spoon' for years but I never post there or participate any more. Once in a while, I log-on only to see that the first page on the job discussion forum and the off-topic forum is exactly the same questions and banal threads each time...often with the same posters originating and/or responding.
As for the tone of responses - I believe part of the problem stems from some poster's sense of entitlement or lack of critical thinking skills. I'm amazed that some younger pups, who have been born with a mouse in their hand, cannot do a simple search especially on Google to find everything they need to know about certain issues. E.g.: Can I get teaching job with no degree and no experience? The answer is readily available already on these forums and definitely available on Google (in several languages to boot!). Some of these same posters keep rephrasing that same question over-and-over again in hopes of finally getting the reply that they want to see.
It's also hard, as a long-timer in China, to try and get FOB posters (Hi Hadleyj!) to understand that there are distinct phases that people go through when they are new to China and not everything is ponies and rainbows.
I tend towards sarcasm as that is part of my warped sense of humor. Some posters, again mainly the young pups, have been weaned on the milk of political correctness and thus take offense without even trying to understand the message.
Lastly, "Who the hell cares if others are wumaos or fakes or liars? Isn't the goal of visiting this forum to share information and seek some mild form of entertainment?" Yes, and no. Entertainment is neither here nor there but when it comes to a legitimate question, especially one that involves legal or personal security aspects in China, having misinformed, misleading or out-dated information being disseminated is a disservice to everyone - especially opinions rather than facts.
No forum is perfect, posters have their moods, their styles and their own personal perspectives on everything.
Happy trails!
expatlife26:
yeah, who knows who these people really are asking those leading, baited questions. Could just be local losers, sarcastic expats having a laugh, or maybe bona fide wumao. I guess it doesn't really matter.
no matter who it is, we shouldnt be encouraging posts like:
"I just violently beat a chinese person (who DID NOT deliberately attack me) unconscious for being rude and fled the scene unpunished...share YOUR stories of violently beating chinese people!"
That's the type of shit that could become viral on weibo or something. People here are fucking miserable. They protest malaysia, they protest vietnam, they protest japan...honestly I think they just hate their lives and just jump all over any outlet for their rage. Anti-govt riots, Pro-china riots, anti-japan riots...they just wanna riot I don't think anyone really cares for what.
Deng Xiao Ping said "hey lets all get rich together, but realize some people are gonna get rich first so don't get jealous." Some people got rich, and now once again theres an upper class looking down on the masses (perhaps rightfully so cause the masses are assholes). I don't think the myth that everyone is going to get rich eventually so just be patient still holds any water.
There also aren't nearly enough women to go around. In a lot of age brackets if everybody pairs off there are still 20 guys left holding their johnsons by themselves.
Last thing we need is a bunch of "foreigners brag about assaulting chinese people and running away" stories going around.
For one thing that's EXACTLY what we condemn them for...cowardly attacks on people weaker than them so that makes us hypocrites.
Another thing we don't want anti-westerner riots breaking out. Last thing I need is to be trying to go about my business and have to worry about getting jumped by some pieces of shit wanting to vent their anger.
I am really a wolf. It is damnably difficult to type with paws....and because I have no thumbs, the space bar is particularly troublesome.
iWolf:
My secret is out! Damn you!! Master is out so I have access to the laptop
Yes, I am a liar and a fake! But I can only speak for myself.
About the rest of your questions? There were (are, whatever) wumaos here, and more than a few posters with certain agendas. Thus the 'wumao' accusations.
Don't take this place seriously. Most others don't.
I dont know. I think your just being sensitive because some called you a liar in your last post. Youll also notice others just answered your question. Good luck finding another place where 100% percent of the people ON THE INTERNET, agree with you completely, or isnt going to be sarcastic sometimes. Thise are unrealistic expectations. As for the wumao point.
If you really have read daily, calling people out for that is really quite rare compared to last year. That was all anyone did for a few months there. So , no. Im happy with how things are.
I'm not a fake or liar. Just ask President Xi, me and him are old buddies.
Listen it's nothing personal, but there have been tons of trolls lately. Who knows if they are actual wumaos or just local losers, scammers or even just expats being sarcastic and having a laugh.
But you do see posts that are pretty obviously asking a cowardly "leading" question. "Why are so many expats sexual predators?" "Does anyone learn chinese not just to get a girlfriend?" or posts that do look like bait into over-the-top anti china/chinese people rants.
"I just violently beat a chinese person (who DID NOT deliberately attack me) unconscious for being rude and fled the scene unpunished...tell me YOUR stories of violently beating chinese people!"
Flip that around where you accidently hit someone with a car or bike (god forbid)...maybe you wouldn't be talking shit but what if the person you hit beat you to an inch of your life? Would it really matter whether you were impolite about the accident or not? No, they'd be convicted and punished for a more-or-less unprovoked attack.
Hell even taking that at face value that's not exactly something you deserve a pat on the back for, though we can all understand the anger when someone selfishly ignores the safety of others for their own convenience.
expatlife26:
lest I be called a hypocrite, i also think MikeCA (somebody i got some respect for) got really lucky to avoid trouble for smashing up that cab. I understand 100% how these little fuckheads can make you lose your temper.
Better to see people on the street just as background. They have no impact on the plot of our lives. They're just there. Don't need to pay them any mind.
The problem with the global village is all the global village idiots.
So you were called a wumao yesterday. Hasn't everyone of the regulars on this forum been called a wumao at some point. Let it slide and keep visiting the forum. I've also been on the forum for a while and your story yesterday does stand out as a bit extreme, kind of like Hulk's MIL stories or anything ever written by <numbers>. Perhaps due to the extreme nature of the story people will more easily think it is fabricated. Maybe some people respond less courteous because they don't condone violence. Maybe some people know that it is the extreme stories that will spin out of control, blow up in the face of any commentators, and pulling the wumao card is one way of killing a thread.
Oh, and if I ever lash out, then it is, as Sorrel points out, probably due to BCDs, of which I have up to 365 per year.
Your feelings got hurt so you're just going to take your ball and leave? Is this how you handle situations where people misunderstand you in real life? If you really are leaving, perhaps it's for the best. This online community is made up of expats and other foreigners who were able to tough it out in an alien culture. We have faced many disappointments and countless misunderstandings. We often have to endure these silently. But here, we can explain ourselves, communicating our motives, actions, and beliefs. If you are leaving because you feel misunderstood, you have failed communication. If I were you, I would start acting like an adult instead of an embarrassed child. If you are unable to do that, I wish you the best.
ScotsAlan:
Yup. And by sharing our experiences people with plans to come work here can get a good idea of what to expect.
We are providing a public service. We should all be rewarded with D visas ![]()
Liars and fake..,
Wait, so you mean to tell me that I'm NOT really a giant spider?! How DARE you!
Im really a Chinese Cartoon character who lives in a busted ass Castle and hit regulary with a frying pan by my wife . ![]()
but I used to be a Nigerian prince ![]()
Well, you called me out and it is time to come clean.
I am KLAXXZOR from the planet STFU on the other side of the Milky Way Galaxy.
We are sent as secret agents to planets to view the locals and decide if they will be future pests to the Galaxy. Think "The Day the Earth Stood Still" except minus the bad acting of Keaneu Reeves.
Sorry but I have decided this world just has too many liars, cheaters, wumaos, trolls, globins and goats (I hate goats!).
You will all be eradicated in 24 hours. Kiss your mothers and your asses goodbye and you can thank MasqueX!
I really am a savage man on a scooter. I was a hero in my apartment building. I do exaggerate and twist things some times, well almost always, but there is always some truth left in the BS.
It's time for you all to know the truth:
I'm actually not a spoon.
Hulk:
First ScotsAlan isn't a mailman, and you're not a spoon... wtf
I don't really fly tomcats, I'd just like to. There does seem to be a lot of questions posted that seem to be only there to stir up discontent. I don't often reply any more simply because I rarely find anything worth replying to.
If you ask if everybody is a liar, and somebody says yes is he lying?
I am just passing my time until someone asks a question I can answer
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