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Q: Foreigners' mutated preferential treatment
Foreigners break the law sometimes.
There was the drug bust in Shenzhen, where police raided a rave and something like 300 people were arrested. 50 foreigners tested positive for drugs, but were not deported.
A blonde lady on the Shanghai subway jumps the turnstile, saving 3 kuai, and it become national headlines.
When are people going to realize that expats are not shining beacons of morality?
Um...I am not aware of any article in the global times, or on the BBC website, or any AP article stating "Expats are Shining Beacons of Morality."
-Who has put forward this claim lately? Um anybody?
talkword:
I think it's fair to say that a lot of locals have unrealistic expectations about fair skinned visitors.
I can't back that up with anything though obviously
rasklnik:
Oh, so a premise without even a hypothesis...Go back to school little guy and learn cause and effect.
Um...I am not aware of any article in the global times, or on the BBC website, or any AP article stating "Expats are Shining Beacons of Morality."
-Who has put forward this claim lately? Um anybody?
talkword:
I think it's fair to say that a lot of locals have unrealistic expectations about fair skinned visitors.
I can't back that up with anything though obviously
rasklnik:
Oh, so a premise without even a hypothesis...Go back to school little guy and learn cause and effect.
Mutated preferential treatment? What does that even mean?
talkword:
Many Chinese citizens have a warped idea of what a foreigner is. Their perceptions don't quite intersect with reality.
A result of this is preferential treatment in some areas, and the opposite in others.
Well the question on special treatment is what would the difference in treatment be for a PRC citizen who tested positive for illegal drugs but had none in their possession. I don't know what the law is here, but in the USA many employers require you to take a drug test, if you fail you might lose your job but you cannot go to jail for it.
Can you be charged with a crime for simply testing positive for drugs here? Maybe you can, and in that case the foreigners received special treatment in not being punished, but it may be the case that NOBODY would get punished just for a positive test.
There are ways law abiding person can fail a drug test without breaking the law too. Certain medications, foods, and even how certain drugs like Cannabis are legal in a lot of places. So a person who respects the law can still fail a drug test.
though most of the people who would go to an outdoor rave in Shenzhen China are probably dumbasses who have poor judgment.
expatlife26:
it's not like you're gonna address this though because you're not a real person trying to have a conversation you're just trying to keep up the propaganda
I'm aware that the majority of Chinese people are only one generation removed from beating their teachers to death with blunt instruments, so, I always feel nervous working in Education here.
Chinese people kill their teachers sometimes. I think we need to realize that Chinese people are not shining examples of model students.
Oh hi so I take it you are Gouxiong/Janosomething's replacement? That was fast (or is he just taking weekend shifts?).
Mind telling us a little about yourself? Like how did you come to be under the impression that expats have ever been claimed to be "beacons of morale"?
Hotwater:
Interesting point. Talkword who I think is also Nicebrice) normally only posts single line questions with no context or follow-up. This is the first time I can remember him actually adding any detail into a question.
Maybe he's had some on-the-wumao-job training?
Janosik:
Paranoia progressing, right? 
May be in your case it's not paranoia, may be you are absolutely normally just stupid ...
Is this not similar to the way the western press reports on "criminal asylum seekers", with the right wing press trying to portray all migrants as being bad? The recent sex attacks in Germany are a good example of this.
Hotwater:
Exactly the same type of reporting. Petty nationalism to put the blame for a countries woes on Johnny Foreigner.
Shining_brow:
Yeah, I was going to agree. The only difference is, of course, how we got here, and what we expect from the country. But, in general,, when someone does something bad, is their nationality or ethnicity mentioned? I've noticed back home that now it's either not mentioned at all, or could be any (including the majority of caucasian). But then - jumping a turnstile at a train station isn't going to hit the news!!!
ScotsAlan:
Was there not a story recently where a Russian girl claimed to have been attacked by Syrian refugees in Germany. She later admitted to making it up. Too late. The damage is done.
I am a foreigner. "Shining beacons of morality" was too much of an exaggeration.
When I see foreigners making headlines for stupid crimes like skipping the subway fare or littering or whatever, I'm shocked. Why do people care so much? If s/he were Chinese, this would not make news. Why is this even published?
One of the only things I can think of is, locals expect us to be rule followers, so when we break them, it makes national headlines.
Stiggs:
I think it's for the same reason that, whenever something bad happens here people start braying about how 200 years ago in America some people did some bad things too, or how a cop shot a black kid or something (therefore whatever happened here is acceptable.)
I'm a shining beacon...
... of a brow.. 
:D
ScotsAlan:
Hills have brows. If you are on the brow of a hill, there is only one direction you can go ...... :-)
If the foreigners provably taking drugs in China so it's totally wrong.
As per my opinion.
But, does majority of expats behave better than average Chinese?
Yes, of course?
The same goes for my country.
If they do not they cannot really survive and earn money ...
Your post ignores, logic, common sense, facts and reality (typical Chinese).
1. Just because you test positive for drugs does not mean you took drugs. Some legal seeds that are used in cooking come from the same plant family as some drugs. Same for some medicines and teas. If you are in a bar and someone is smoking weed, it will get into your system. This is why drug tests are not used for determining guilt or innocence in any civilized country (most uncivilized countries realize this too).
2. If I did take drugs, who said I took them while in China? Many countries have legalized certain drugs that are illegal in China.
3. Just because it's a deportable offense does not mean you'll be automatically deported. And why bother to deport a tourist or student (they are bringing money in stupid)
4. What are the statistics? Count all the the murders, rapes and thefts committed in China last year. How many were committed by foreigners? My guess, less than 0.5%. But don't just look at that number, what percentage of foreigners are criminals vs percentage of Chinese? My guess, the percentage of foreigners who are criminals is lower. China will never release these numbers because they will go against their BS narrative. When Chinese say foreigners they are referring to westerners, and we are less inclined to be criminals than your neighbors.
5. You're complaining about under enforcement of the law when it comes to foreigners.But that's what the police do everyday with locals. How many times have I read a story where some guy attacks a woman in some way and the police 'criticized' him.
I must cut this short, later.
expatlife26:
yeah that's my point too. Talkword is saying that these people didn't get deported after testing positive for drugs out of some kind of special privilege. But is testing positive alone considered a crime? Can anybody, local citizen or not, be prosecuted for it if they aren't also in possession of illegal drugs?
ambivalentmace:
they have caught restaurants here putting drugs in food to enhance the flavor and addict customers to the food, this has been in the news, so we should jail all the customers of the restaurant.
Englteachted:
Amb: the customer who brought it to the attention of the police was also punished. Stupid China
http://www.nytimes.com/.../01/31/world/asia/restaurants-in-china...
added poppy seeds to food for addiction to the food.
this is my favorite, wait till china copies this one from germany
http://www.21food.com/products/cocaine-energy-drink-2022108.html
Don't you think on the story about the woman being fined for dodging the subway fare is only a story because it's a foreigner? I see people on the metro pretty often try to sneak in or out back to back to avoid paying the fare.
She was fined a whopping 84 RMB for being a dumbass and went about her day. Same as would have happened to anybody.
Englteachted:
She should have been punished more harshly because she is not Chinese. Punishing her the same as any other Chinese person is not fair to Chinese people. (That is the backwards logic behind what Talkword is saying)
talkword:
No that's not my logic at all Englteachted. I think everyone should be treated the same.
But we are not. This question was supposed to get us thinking, "Why?"
Englteachted:
Chinese are racist, ignorant, nationalistic, petty, overwhelmed with inferiority, uneducated, brainwashed morons. I think that covers it.
Does TaLKword work with ECC.
His post came before this article.
http://www.echinacities.com/china-media/Number-of-Foreign-Thieves-in-Sha...
expatlife26:
i say this a lot, but I think Delphine, Hal195, nicebrice, talkword and I think one more I'm not remembering are all admin accounts.
Most of the time they just post kinda broad, lightweight topics that are vague enough to cast a wide net. Get people talking. Nothing wrong with that, really.
But then some of the stuff is just really mean spirited. On the other hand it generates traffic cause it gets a rise out of us.
