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Q: foreigners will become part of China’s labor forces in 2050?

A French  photographer thinks that foreigners in china will do these jobs in 2050!  Do you think that will happen ? 

 

 

english.peopledaily.com.cn/n/2014/0728/c98649-8761621.html

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I don't see why not. After all, foreigners already do these jobs in foreign countries wink.

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Currently I don't see the Chinese society as suitable for a high-income economy. Sure, it's a long ass way until 2050 and things will change but right now I see it more likely that something (civil unrest do environmental problems, sudden spike in unemployment, whatever) might seriously derail the Chinese economy before it reaches a high income status.

On the western side, maybe I'm stupid, but I think overall things will get better towards 2050.

Taking that into account, no, I don't see a massive exodus of westerners taking crap jobs in China. Possibly people from less developed Asian countries if China really get it's shit together, but nah, probably not.

ScotsAlan:

Ha ha. Don't take this too seriously Burak43, but I want to pull you up on this "crap" job thing.

 

A job is a job, no job is crap. Some people are just not as fortunate as others.   I remember once working as a KP in a warehouse canteen.  I remember the attitude of the fork lift drivers towards me. I was like nothing more than a bit of shit to some of them ( Only some mind, most were ok). There I was tidying up after them, washing their dishes, frying their breakfast eggs, and the only difference between us was that they drove a forklift and I washed up the dishes.

 

Those people were not better than me. I was better than them because I took their attitude and smiled back.

 

No job is crap, and nobody is better than anyone else because of what job they have.

 

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Burak43:

I get a little spergy when it comes to economics, and especially Chinese economy haha.

 

As for the crap job, I didn't mean it in a "I'm better than you" way, far from it, by crap I meant low paying, menial jobs and I've had my share of those. Getting up at 4 AM to lift heavy stuff for 8-12 hours for example. Still grateful for that job, learned a lot there.

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No. Haha.

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Whatever he says must be true because French photographers are known to be accurate prognosticators. 

 

He clearly knows how to sell photographs. Appeal to vanity. 

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This photo series is funny, shake some common perceptions, yet have enough credibility to make people think. As a photographer, that's a job well done.

 

2050, it's a long, long time : more than 30 years. China 30 years ago ? 1980, when many things were very different in China and elsewhere. By that time, the Chinese population will be much, much older with little in the way of welfare. Those old people will likely have an usually high rate of cancer. Other countries will have older populations, but to a lesser extent. Various now burgeoning, game-changing technologies will become mainstream. So 2050, apart from a lot of old sick peoples and expensive energy bills, hard to tell what it will be. Many jobs might become automated. Foxconn have been buying massively robots lately, for example. Meat-bags have a high turn-over rate and makes HR headakes, pushing the cost high...

Spiderboenz:

MEAT-BAGS?!?!?!

 

 

 

The PC term is Meat-Sack, m***-b** is a pejorative. 

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A work designed to make a good sale in 2014. But I wouldn't talk about anticipation.

This is not going to happen. As in never.

 

But yeah, it appeals to the Chinese vanity of believing they might be a superior class some day in their own society, which at best is a joke, but sure a good sale. But no.

 

If I ever had to live in poverty, I would be poor at home. Not because of welfare, which might be non-existent by 2050 anyway, but more importantly because back home, there exists a real society of human beings, where I could live poor but with hopes of being treated with basic decency because people care. I wouldn't be a sub-citizen open to mistreatments. All of which is, and will ever remain science fiction to China as it stands.

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If you are referring to people who are from Vietnam, Laos, or counties like that then probably yes. But if you are talking about people who are from the US or the western Europe, then no. Counties like the US and western Europe are well developed. Why bother moving when you are already live comfortably? Do you see many Japanese in the US or Europe? See my point?

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