The place to ask China-related questions!
Beijing Shanghai Guangzhou Shenzhen Chengdu Xi'an Hangzhou Qingdao Dalian Suzhou Nanjing More Cities>>

Categories

Close
Welcome to eChinacities Answers! Please or register if you wish to join conversations or ask questions relating to life in China. For help, click here.
X

Verify email

Your verification code has been sent to:

Didn`t receive your code? Resend code

By continuing you agree to eChinacities's Privacy Policy .

Sign up with Google Sign up with Facebook
Sign up with Email Already have an account? .
Posts: 55

Governor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

Q: Getting a Z Visa in Ningbo without a degree

I successfully got a job with an English teaching school in Ningbo but my application for the work visa failed as I didn't have a degree (My highest level of education is a HND which is 2 years study at university). This was in February.

Before I talked to a guy who ran a school asking him about the visa. He said that he once knew a guy who got the working visa without a degree but couldnt recall the specifics on how exactly he is got it. I heard that Ningbo is the only city in China where it is almost impossible to get a working visa without a degree for a foreigner.

Now I'm back in Ningbo with a tourist visa and determined to stay. I have a girlfriend here (yeah). I went back to that guy and he agreed to hire me as a part time teacher but I just have to be careful about my employment status.

My question is, is there really no way to get a working visa without a degree in Ningbo?

I am doing distance learning trying to 'top up' my HND so after a year, I will have the degree.

Any suggestions much appreciated.

11 years 26 weeks ago in  Business & Jobs - Ningbo

 
Answers (6)
Comments (1)
Posts: 2418

Emperor

1
3
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
4

Go online and buy a degree.  Or, talk to the school and have them photoshop you one.  You will be surprised at how easy it is to break the law here.

For the anal retentive: The above is against the law and not advisable under any circumstances.  It is also not possible, legally, to get an experts certificate in China without a college/university degree.  Unless, you are ready to inject hundreds of thousands of US dollars into the local economy, in which case they don't care if you are a talking baboon or not.

Report Abuse
11 years 26 weeks ago
 
Posts: 7744

Emperor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

So... you don't have a degree (which is required) - do you have a TEFL qualification of any kind?? ANy teaching experience? ANYTHING AT ALL for which we could possibly recommend you actually taking away the jobs from the legitimate teachers who come here - and keeping our pay-rates down because of it?

(yes, I'm being anal... but it's a valid point, I think! Query - how do you feel about people staying illegally in your country?)

The ultimate answer to your question is - no (at least, as John said, not legally!)

You could, however, enrol into a university in Ningbo, which at least gives you the right to stay here - but not work. OTOH, since you  are determined to stay here with this girl, marry her! That would at least get you a 'spouse' visa... You could also get yourself a different job in a different field.

Xpat.John:

Of the many English teachers that I have met in China, about 80% either have no degree or experience at all. Schools will happily make up whatever documentation they are lacking just to have a foreign face on the payroll. I am not saying that ALL English teachers are this way, nor ALL schools will do blatantly illegal things like this. But from the people and schools I have talked to, this has been my experience.

11 years 26 weeks ago
Report Abuse
Report Abuse
11 years 26 weeks ago
 
Posts: 3044

Emperor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

What you are doing could get you into a heap of problems here.  Working without a Z visa could have you deported, and refused further opportunities to visit China if caught. 

Search on Intenet for places that will sell you a fake college degree, and use that to get your Foreign Expert Certificate and WorkPermit until you cn finish your college studies nd get a real one. 

Also, if you took the TEFL course, and got a degree, could use that for your FEC.  Does your employer has anby pull with the local PSB?.

Just be very careful, you are walking on quicksand !

Report Abuse
11 years 13 weeks ago
 
Posts: 1559

Emperor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

Just to give you a heads up, when I got my foreign expert's license and residence permit in Ningbo, they wouldn't accept anything but the original university diploma.  Yeah, I had to rip that sucker out of the nice picture frame hanging on my wall back home, roll it up into a cardboard tube, and carry it with me on the flight over here.  Tried my best to substitute a photocopy, transcripts, the little wallet sized diploma they give you, etc....they weren't having it.

祝你好运...

Report Abuse
11 years 13 weeks ago
 
Posts: 16

Governor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

I have never heard that before,

Report Abuse
10 years 3 days ago
 
Know the answer ?
Please or register to post answer.

Report Abuse

Security Code: * Enter the text diplayed in the box below
Image CAPTCHA
Enter the characters shown in the image.
  • Allowed HTML tags: <a> <em> <strong> <cite> <code> <ul> <ol> <li> <dl> <dt> <dd> <img> <br> <p> <u>
  • Web page addresses and e-mail addresses turn into links automatically.
  • Lines and paragraphs break automatically.
  • Textual smileys will be replaced with graphical ones.

More information about formatting options

Forward Question

Answer of the DayMORE >>
A: That is a typical Chinese style blackmail! I wouldn't worry for t
A:That is a typical Chinese style blackmail! I wouldn't worry for the WP application expiration at all!WP application doesn't expire. It is either approved or rejected and that is known fairly fast, 2-weeks time the longest. I'd find another employer, Z visa sponsor ASAP, sign new contract and start with WP application all over again. You might also try and find out at which office your employer applied for WP and speak to them (.gov) in person. They have at least one person there, who understands and speaks English. I'd say, your employer most likely never applied for anything. Employers in China must hold an authorization certificate to hire foreigners. If an employer doesn't have such an authorization, it cannot sponsor foreigner for a Working permit and Z visa.Most language schools in China don't have such an authorization, because it's a costly thing to obtain for one ...You could also ask your employer to show you a foreign hire authorization certificate. It's an A4 format paper with text in Mandarin and several red-ish ink stamps.I've always wanted to see an employer's foreign hire authorization before I've inked the new contract. That prevented many shady deals employers in China were/are playing. See this: https://english.www.gov.cn/services/liveandworkinchina There are two web links on the bottom. Send them a message and find out, if that Chinese state org. can advise and help you. Good luck! -- icnif77