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Q: Giving Birth in China?
Hi all,
If you/your wife ends up having a baby, would you/your wife give birth in China or in your own home country (if you are an intercultural couple)? I am just thinking about citizenship and visas, to be honest, I have no idea how it would work.
If my baby has no Chinese passport, and is born outside China, but my wife is Chinese and we are married, does my baby need a visa? Sometime in the future my question on here will be "HELP my baby's visa got denied", haha. I guess it depends on where we end up living, though?
What citizenship do your children have? And does their physical birth-place matter?
9 years 26 weeks ago in Family & Kids - China
For most European countries, dual citizenship is not allowed. However, as China is a de facto evil country, dual citizenship is silently tolerated. That means if you have a child in China, with a Chinese citizen, he/she will automatically have Chinese citizenship. You can then go to your embassy and apply/demand/ask for a passport from your country for the kid. China will never be informed about this.
If your baby is born to a different nationality, he/she will need a visa. This would be the same as us who are married to a Chinese, but not working has, can be multi year visas, so shouldn't be too much of a hassle.
Scandinavian:
by the way, in terms of visa applications, it doesn't really matter for us intercultural couples. No matter where we go/stay, someone will need a visa (with very few exceptions) so a trip to the visa office is as certain as a trip to the crapper after streetfood in China;
Scandinavian:
Europe doesn't tell China !!!. Technically it is not allowed in China, but no one ever knows
ScotsAlan:
Yes. I agree. But they know if you have two passports. Leave China on Chinese passport.. travel on foreign one.... re-enter China on Chinese passport.... Erm... where are the visas that account for your time away?
I have seen it happen. A Chinese woman who gained UK citizenship but did not tell the Chinese passport people. They stopped her at the border and asked where her other passport was after she had spent 13 months out on China on a 1 week visa to HK. And, at that time, where was her HK exit chop?
If you are planning on staying in China for a while then you should probably let them be Chinese for now and apply for your citizenship when you are ready to move. China is cracking down as much as they can on those having 2 passports and making it a total mess to travel so don't do both. This year the government passed a new law saying that if the "foreign" baby born to at least one Chinese citizen didn't stay in his country of birth at least two years then they will fail to recognize his foreign passport/citizenship and declare them Chinese.
If the mother has Chinese nationality & the baby a different nationality then it is easy/automatic that the baby can get a family visit visa. Can't remember if that is Q or S. Someone will remind me that I'm sure.
As Scan said, if baby is born here then register as Chinese national but also go to your consulate & quietly get him/her registered their so your kid has the choice to change to your nationality when older. If course check your own countries laws on this first.
pbrown22:
Yes, he or she can get an easy Chinese visa IF they see him as a foreigner. I'm pretty sure the way the laws are setup now if the baby is born in China to a mother or father who holds Chinese citizenship at the time they will see him/her as Chinese despite whether you got him/her a foreign passport. In that case they will never recognize his foreign passport. When you go to leave the country he/she will not be allowed to leave unless they use their Chinese passport with a visa inside to the destination country even if they have that country's passport and are a citizen.
In home country, I don't trust anything Chinese when it comes to children.
You have one chance with a child to register it as Chinese. After birth. No matter what country.
If you say the Child is not Chinese when you register the birth, the Child will never be Chinese.
Thats why we registered our daughter as Chinese on the day she was born.
She now has a choice later on to be British if she wants. If we had said she was British from her birth she would never ever be Chinese.
At least under the current rules.
All foreign nationals require a visa of some sort on China. Even one day old foreign nationals.
