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Q: Hillary or Bernie? Why or Why Not?

What is your preference?

3 years 19 weeks ago in  General  - China

 
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Neither!
Bernie's brand of socialism is demonstrably unsustainable -- it's promises can't ever be realized.
Hillary's only core belief is that she deserves to be President, and she will do anything -- illegal or not, immoral or not in support of that belief.
Neither has, as far as I can tell, ever read the Constitution of the United States. Neither, based on the policies they advocate and their past behavior, could be trusted to fulfil a promise to protect and defend the Constitution.
The Democratic Party has created a narrative that the Republican Party is fundamentally fascist, while -- at the sme time -- propogating what are essentially fascist government edicts. They make the Rebublicans out to be "crony capitalists" while -- at the same time -- supporting the largest crony capitalist program in American history in support of "green" projects.
I'm not saying this in support of the Republican Party (it is no better than it's opposition). If I had to vote in the upcoming election, and was required to choose one of the major party candidates, I suspect I'd have a stroke on my way to the ballot box.

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Neither!
Bernie's brand of socialism is demonstrably unsustainable -- it's promises can't ever be realized.
Hillary's only core belief is that she deserves to be President, and she will do anything -- illegal or not, immoral or not in support of that belief.
Neither has, as far as I can tell, ever read the Constitution of the United States. Neither, based on the policies they advocate and their past behavior, could be trusted to fulfil a promise to protect and defend the Constitution.
The Democratic Party has created a narrative that the Republican Party is fundamentally fascist, while -- at the sme time -- propogating what are essentially fascist government edicts. They make the Rebublicans out to be "crony capitalists" while -- at the same time -- supporting the largest crony capitalist program in American history in support of "green" projects.
I'm not saying this in support of the Republican Party (it is no better than it's opposition). If I had to vote in the upcoming election, and was required to choose one of the major party candidates, I suspect I'd have a stroke on my way to the ballot box.

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Bernie. Hillary is tainted . There has been a lot of mud slung at her, some of it undeservedly.

America already hands gazillions out to its corporate masters in bailouts and tax breaks. This is the worst kind of socialism.

If America didn't blow billions on propping up Israel and trillions on its bloated military then maybe they could afford basic health care and education for its less fortunate citizens.

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Hilary is a war-monger. I'm actually surprised she's a Democrat! the impression I get from her is that she'll never listen to real, good advice if it goes against her goals.

 

Bernie, OTOH, seems the sort of person who actually relies on the knowledge and wisdom that people with more training and experience provide.

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None of therm. Hillary is already out and over.

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anyone who would even consider hillary should have there head examined she cant tell the truth she got fired from her law firm for lieing shes as corrupt as hell she stole furniture and paintings from the white house when bill left a felony got caught and had to return them bull going to lolitta island with his friend epstien the billionaire got convicted of having sex there with under age children and refused to testify against bill i never had sex with her clinton is in prison hillary doing all she can to dis credit these woman if thats not enough go to yahoo type in clinton body count where 49 people mysteryously died 1 a witness against hillary which would have put her in prison for 15 to 20 years is this the best the us has really

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Seems a silly system to me.  Gotta register so long ago that it's in the too hard basket and the amount of money involved in 'fund raising' is mind bending.  Where are the country's best interests being held?

Free tip; look for an interloper to come in and save the day.  Cape on would be best.

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i think Hussein will throw her under the bus when the time is right and put Biden or Warren in the seat, not sure he wants his legacy forgotten so soon by the first woman president to take his ego trips away as the first so called black president. he is staying in Washington to bitch moan and complain as they tear down his mess.

 

it will be an interesting sight to see Trump tearing down everything, the sooner the better.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hillary-clinton-will-run-for-president-again-in-2020-former-adviser-says

 

 

Let's get this party started, 3 times a charm.

 

So the center is afraid of the socialist progressives, Biden will stick his foot in his mouth again and Hillary comes in on a white horse to rescue the party.

What a bunch of F** idiots?

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Trump-a by wide margin ... he he. Never involved into voting in my entire life, buTT still ... my 'horse' is a winner. Watch&Learn, he he

I have Trump-a's achievements as POTUS somewhere. Wait ...

Interesting read:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-08/trump-playing-4d-chess-china

It's one of the comments on above weblink:

Trump’s list: 289 accomplishments in just 20 months, ‘relentless’ promise-keeping

by Paul Bedard

| October 12, 2018 08:43 AM

The Trump administration’s often overlooked list of achievements has surpassed those of former President Ronald Reagan at this time and more than doubled since the last tally of accomplishments after his first year in office, giving President Trump a solid platform to run for re-election on.

As Trump nears the two-year mark of his historic election and conducts political rallies around the country, during which he talks up his wins in hopes it will energize Republican voters, the administration has counted up 289 accomplishments in 18 categories, capped by the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court.

They include 173 major wins, such as adding more than 4 million jobs, and another 116 smaller victories, some with outsize importance, such as the 83 percent one-year increase in arrests of MS-13 gang members.

“Trump’s successes in reducing the cost of taxes and regulations, rebuilding our military, avoiding wars of choice and changing the courts rival those of all previous Republican presidents,” said Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform.

“Trump has an advantage over Ronald Reagan: He has a Reagan Republican House and Senate while Reagan had a [Democratic Speaker] Tip O’Neill House and a pre-Reagan Republican Senate. Reagan and [former GOP Speaker] Newt Gingrich were the ice breakers that allowed Trump’s victories to grow in number and significance,” he added.

Unlike the Year One list which included many proposals and orders still to be acted on, the new collection includes dozens of actions already in place, signed legislation, and enforced executive orders.

... more ... on China especially, he he

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The Dems current candidates chief criticism of Trump is that heis enforcing the immigration laws written by congress and mis-interpreted by the courts. None of the current candidates seem the least interested in protecting or defending the constitution so my current answer is the same as my old one -- neither. Not Bernie, not Hillary, not any of 'em. Not Trume, either, since he's too controversial, and too easily manipulated by his "advisors." Also, he is in no way an espouser of classic Liberalism (now more often called Libertarianism)

 

My first choice would be Utah's Mia Love (since Condi is getting a bit too old) 'cause an actual conservative who happens to be a black woman would be a big plus for the Reps. But the chances of me voting at all are essentially zero. I pretty much gave up when the Libertarian party was taken over by fruitcakes, and the Republicans decided winning was more important than ideals.

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Bernie is a fraudster 3 luxury homes luxury cars access to private jets job professional politician enough said and Hillary is all about Hillary f the people

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