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Q: Hiring teachers with different titles but have them work as English teachers

So many schools hire non natives as textbook editors, managers etc... ( in other words a non teaching visa ). But, they acrtually work as English teachers. It's very common. Doesn't China know about it? and why didn't it stop issuing such visas since most foreigners work as teachers in a KG or TC.

 

If I want to report such things, is it to the PSB or  bureau of foreign affairs?

5 weeks 19 hours ago in  Visa & Legalities - China

 
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Why would you want to report this?

Are you being impacted in any way?

Here is where minding your own business is probably the best plan.

If an adult wants to work in China and accepts the risks that this involves without doing their own due diligence, it is their responsibility, not yours.

All I would do is advise a person against accepting such a visa and acquaint themselves with the pitfalls of accepting a visa under false pretences.

If someone choses to do so, it is their (choice) as an adult.
and none of your business (or mine). You seem to have a thing about reporting foreign workers who may or may not be working illegally.
Maybe turn your attention to the employers who are trying to dupe people into working illegally.  

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Why would you want to report this?

Are you being impacted in any way?

Here is where minding your own business is probably the best plan.

If an adult wants to work in China and accepts the risks that this involves without doing their own due diligence, it is their responsibility, not yours.

All I would do is advise a person against accepting such a visa and acquaint themselves with the pitfalls of accepting a visa under false pretences.

If someone choses to do so, it is their (choice) as an adult.
and none of your business (or mine). You seem to have a thing about reporting foreign workers who may or may not be working illegally.
Maybe turn your attention to the employers who are trying to dupe people into working illegally.  

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Sorrel has already put it very clearly: ratting others is quite the nasty part of the so called justice you seek. Advise rather than ratting others.

 

I, personally consider it creative that people find their way around the restrictions imposed in China to keep their business afloat. Children need and love to learn more. If a teacher needs to go this way so he can eat, I am glad he can do it. Let him do it.

 

Don't hurry to take his dish of rice off his table because he doesn't earn it by the today's rules. He is working and is worthy to earn his daily bowl of rice. Would you rather be happy to see a techer coming to you r rescuing for a piece of bread or would you send him to find a job? Is a job easy to find today, anyway? Then, why would you care how one earns his money? Don't be envious, will you? Let others be and look at the bright side of this: people won't give up on finding ways to decide their lives by and for themselves no matter how governments around the world may come in their way to make them stumble poor and dependable on the power that be. You should be happy that people are this creative. I, personally, am.

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found this old thread on the same theme which I suggest you read through.

https://answers.echinacities.com/question/how-report-illegal-workers-teachers-0?page=1

 

Robk - on the second page of the answers makes a good point.

 

In China informing on/ratting out other foreigners will most likely back-fire on the person who does it.

 

But if you need to do this sort of thing to feel good about yourself, by all means go ahead.

But don;t expect any thanks from anyone.

Informants are usually despised by all - those who you inform against and those who you inform to.

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It's very common?  How do you know?  Are you inspecting every non-native English teacher's work permit card and interrogating them on their job titles?

 

Unless someone is taking money from your pocket, food from your plate, or causing you extra work, then the specifics of their job title vs their job....  None. Of. Your. Concern.  
 

Life is hard enough, let them be. 
 

And FTR, every non-native teacher that I've met in the past three years was either a certified subject teacher teaching their subject or received their degree in a NES country. It IS possible for NNE people to legally teach. 

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@EnergyKing: In your response to Sorrel you said, "I am not reporting them. I am just asking". Yet, in your original question, you said... "If I want to report such things, is it to the PSB or  bureau of foreign affairs?". It may be splitting hairs, but why would you "Question" such a thing unless you anticipated on using the information. 

 

I agree with all the other postings here. Mind your own business. Unless you are being damaged by such actions, or you know of a foreigner harming the students in some manner, just let it be. 

 

Remember that we are guests in this country. We are not in any position to question the laws and policies of our host nation. We may disagree with such things, it is their country to sort through. The only real option is that if one can not handle such differences, we can always leave our host country. The natives are pretty much stuck with it. 

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come on; energyking wants to see if he can find out what foreigners are doing and we are falling for the bait

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